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Eugene

(61,872 posts)
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:01 PM May 2016

Bowe Bergdahl trial delayed until February – under next president

Source: Associated Press

Army Sgt Bowe Bergdahl, who walked off his combat outpost in Afghanistan and spent five years in captivity, will be court martialed under a new commander-in-chief.

A military judge decided Tuesday to delay Bergdahl’s trial from August until February to provide time for resolving disputes over the defense team’s access to classified documents.

Bergdahl, 30, sat attentively in his dress blue formal uniform, his infantry cord looped under the epaulet on his right shoulder, during the brief hearing. The soldier from Hailey, Idaho, faces charges of desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. The latter charge is relatively rare and carries the potential sentence of life in prison.

A February start would mean the court martial could make headlines only weeks after the new commander-in-chief is sworn in as president.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/17/bowe-bergdahl-trial-delayed-next-president



Associated Press in Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Tuesday 17 May 2016 16.54 BST
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Bowe Bergdahl trial delayed until February – under next president (Original Post) Eugene May 2016 OP
A rediculous persecution. blackspade May 2016 #1
either hrc or trump could produce a show trial to show they are strong with the military dembotoz May 2016 #2
He suffered enough Marrah_G May 2016 #3
A POW from Vietnam says: Free Bowe Bergdahl DinahMoeHum May 2016 #4
I agree... Javaman May 2016 #17
So members of the military are not entitled to a "speedy" trial? yellowcanine May 2016 #5
The defense is the one filing the motions to delay. former9thward May 2016 #7
The delay is about the defense access to classified documents. yellowcanine May 2016 #9
That presumes the defense team and Bergdahl want a speedy trial Lurks Often May 2016 #11
These types of things are not at all unusual jberryhill May 2016 #28
That dude suffered enough from his own stupidity. Rafale May 2016 #6
Hope he gets the max and rots.... TipTok May 2016 #8
Nice. truebrit71 May 2016 #19
I'm also a member of Veterans For Peace . . FairWinds May 2016 #10
Never should have been in the army in the first place. Brickbat May 2016 #12
No, that much was clear from Serial alarimer May 2016 #13
Same same. Brickbat May 2016 #15
If it's President Trump, he'll probably have him summarily executed on the White House lawn.... Tommy_Carcetti May 2016 #14
He's also going to need a lifetime of medical care . . FairWinds May 2016 #16
He can get it at Leavenworth... TipTok May 2016 #18
Snark alert . . FairWinds May 2016 #20
If I wander off alone and unannounced off my FOB... TipTok May 2016 #21
And what is "their job"? FairWinds May 2016 #22
Jobs were wide and varied ... Especially back then... TipTok May 2016 #23
Here is your mission . . FairWinds May 2016 #24
Way to promote the crazy vet stereotype... TipTok May 2016 #25
Dumb wars and engaging in torture create mentally ill veterans . . FairWinds May 2016 #26
There is a difference between awareness... TipTok May 2016 #27
Alert DashOneBravo May 2016 #29
Ha... TipTok May 2016 #30

DinahMoeHum

(21,784 posts)
4. A POW from Vietnam says: Free Bowe Bergdahl
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/who-we-are/member-highlights/2016/03/03/vietnam-pow-speaks-bowe-bergdahl

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A personal note here: I was held for 8 years as a POW in Vietnam, along with hundreds of other American airmen as time went along after my capture. I was trained prior in a Navy survival school. And I was a Navy Lieutenant, a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy. So unlike Bowe, not only did I have training for the possible eventuality of being captured but I was also with fellow Americans. We were able to support each other and resist as an organized, military, team.
What a difference from the circumstances of PFC Bowe Bergdahl. What a difference we experienced upon repatriation, welcomed as returning heroes. Bowe is being court martialed.

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We all need to examine what is really going on here. The upcoming court martial of Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl is just a signpost of a much deeper, cancerous infection. And punishing this low-ranking man who never should have been in the Army in the first place is anathema to any kind of justice. Free Bowe Bergdahl!
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Javaman

(62,521 posts)
17. I agree...
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:51 PM
May 2016

there is a great podcast called "Serial" which is following the history and current developments regarding Bergdahl.

from everything I have heard so far, it sounds as if it's his commanding officer has an axe to grind that's why Bergdahl is up for courts martial.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
9. The delay is about the defense access to classified documents.
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

"A military judge decided on Tuesday to delay Bergdahl’s trial from August until February to provide time for resolving disputes over the defense team’s access to classified documents."

If the defense cannot get the access to classified documents, the judge should give the military a limited time to provide the access and dismiss the case if access is not provided, not delay the case. The defendant's right to a speedy trial should not hinge on the military's refusal to allow proper discovery to proceed.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
10. I'm also a member of Veterans For Peace . .
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

Bergdahl is only one of thousands of troops who are experiencing
psychological distress or worse . .

As long as the USA sends young people out to kill for the empire,
many will come back deeply scarred psychologically.

The magnitude of the problem is stunning.

Here is an article I wrote on the subject . .

http://www.juancole.com/2015/09/bowe-bergdahl-psychology.html

(BTW, I find it infuriating that the Trumpster regularly singles Bergdahl out
for denunciation.)

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
13. No, that much was clear from Serial
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

In general, I am fairly sympathetic and think 5 years in a Taliban hellhole is punishment enough.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
14. If it's President Trump, he'll probably have him summarily executed on the White House lawn....
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:16 PM
May 2016

....for being a "traitor."

Because his dumb ass thinks going AWOL is the same as being a traitor and fighting for the enemy.

Honestly, it's simple. Time served (in conditions far worse than any US military prison), discharged, end of story.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
20. Snark alert . .
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
May 2016

no attempt to offer reasoning, evidence, and/or facts.

I hope that you are not treated as callously as you
treat Bergdahl, even though frankly you deserve it.

So are you a vet? Active? Neither one?

Veterans For Peace

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
21. If I wander off alone and unannounced off my FOB...
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

... and into the local Afghan population feel free to be as callous as you like.

He deserves the maximum punishment here for all the wasted time, resources and people who had to focus on him instead of doing their job.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
22. And what is "their job"?
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:11 AM
May 2016

I have yet to meet a single Iraq or Afghanistan vet
who thinks the mission who thinks the mission is going
anywhere . .

Surprising that they don't all wander off.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
23. Jobs were wide and varied ... Especially back then...
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

I'm not sure how it was for you but the current goal is to do the best you can with what you've got.

Things certainly were not made better by the diversion of resources to look for one lost idiot. Not to mention everything that happened later in political, military and diplomatic spheres.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
25. Way to promote the crazy vet stereotype...
Wed May 18, 2016, 04:56 PM
May 2016

... just waiting to snap.

We don't need that kind of help.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
26. Dumb wars and engaging in torture create mentally ill veterans . .
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:10 PM
May 2016

I know lots of them.

And almost all the figures I cite are from the Veterans Administration, like . .
one third of the vets returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, 730,000 men and women,
had come home with a mental health condition by 2012.

The truth is the truth. Try to deal with it.

Personally, I think I have a case of moral injury - look it up.

http://www.stripes.com/opinion/why-distinguishing-a-moral-injury-from-ptsd-is-important-1.333520

How about you?

You seem to sorta belong on web sites of a more
Wingist persuasion.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
27. There is a difference between awareness...
Wed May 18, 2016, 05:12 PM
May 2016

... and hyperbolic garbage like "Then they come back home to the good ol' USA as walking time bombs."

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May 2016

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