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SunSeeker
(57,882 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)I still havent seen any violence during the meeting in question.
SunSeeker
(57,882 posts)Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)can you show me please?
I saw one jackass pick one up and put it back down.
Duval
(4,280 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)for that? There's nothing in the "report" on the CNN link.
The MSM picked it up because it was tweeted by Jon Ralston - a formerly pretty good journalist who has jumped the shark on this campaign and spends most of his time posting inflammatory or snidely rude tweets aimed at Sanders supporters (the rest of the time he's posting stuff about the downfall of the chancellor of the NV Board of Regents - no great loss to the system, that one).
Three of my friends were delegates - one of them, a retired college president, sat four rows from the podium and spent a good bit of time walking around the room to keep the blood moving during the 15 hours she was there. She was even in the room for the breakout sessions, as her CD stayed in that location.
She saw NO chairs thrown.
No bottles thrown.
No fist fights.
The "medic emergencies" were almost all older people seated in the ADA section in front of her - succumbing due to their aliments or heat, dehydration (those $5 bottles of water were pretty dear), hunger . . . but not from violence.
She did see one heated debate between two older ladies - one a Hillary supporter and the other a Bernie supporter. No blows were exchanged. No chairs were thrown.
Neither did my other friends who were there, seated further back in the room for the entire 15 hours (except for breakout sessions).
There is a whole lot of rumor circulating - 90% of it is utter bull.
Watch this raw feed, taken at the convention. What do you see? I see angry, frustrated people - but I don't see violent ones.
https://vimeo.com/166858323
peace13
(11,076 posts)It is all sad!
Blue_Adept
(6,499 posts)Those were messages sent to her phone as the cell number was given out by some at the convention. Those were sent directly to her and voice mail left for her that was even worse.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)than their asshole counterparts in the teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeparty
Blue_Adept
(6,499 posts)But they get all the attention. What disturbs me is how many of the more straightforward Bernie supporters turn a blind eye to it, deflect on it, or try to justify it. It's tarnishing the whole thing.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)They all ended with "Allah is great!"
That was bullshit.
Will we ever learn to recognize psyops?
peace13
(11,076 posts)Who else has time to orchestrate this stuff?
Squinch
(58,875 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)mac56
(17,815 posts)However did you do it?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)those that will literally do anything to win. Instead of fighting for our freedoms and liberties, they take the easy road and jump on the bandwagon of the wealthy 1%. Then they don't have to think about no stinking issues or where their candidate, "the chosen one", stands. Then comes the audacity to demand that the progressives sell their souls and fall in line.
Here's what I told them in 2000 when their hubris thought they could run another DLC'er after the likes of Clinton. If you want to win the General, choose a nominee that the Left can stand behind.
creeksneakers2
(7,959 posts)Doesn't sound fair to me.
peace13
(11,076 posts)Well you can be pretty da$n sure Bernie is up to it. This does not help his cause! Those comments could be from any imbecile. Track them down, take them in. There isn't a Bernie supporter that would care. That being said, when you steal people's voices things get ugly. It is really up to the DNC as to how this plays out.
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snort
(2,334 posts)Suuuure.
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MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)blame the 1% for this and everything will be peachy.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)/ignore list.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)The party wants a candidate no one likes. Certainly not a majority, who will be voting in November. All the cheating, along wit the Clinton record. This is the kind of talk that comes from a human who feels violated by having such a person shoved down their throats, in the most UNDEMOCRATIC WAY. The party should be ashamed.
modestybl
(458 posts)Lying and cheating is the modus operandi of a flawed and weak candidate. The comments aren't from Sanders supporters. They have the stench of agents provocateur.
mac56
(17,815 posts)Have you ever heard the phrase "false flag"?
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snort
(2,334 posts)Bye.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)the worst examples of human behavior, which can be found across the board. Seriously fuck this. If anything about Sander's message were cries or dog-whistles for this kind of behavior then maybe there'd be a legitimate point to trying to put examples of internet abuse at his feet, but it isn't his message.
Threats and verbal abuse undermine Bernie's message, so of course that's what you guys want to focus on, as if you couldn't find that sort of thing in any context, levied at public and private citizens alike on the internet.
The DNC is the establishment. I assure you it likes Rubio, Cruz or Kasich better than it likes Sanders as President. Hell, it probably prefers Trump. Sanders is meddling with the primal forces of nature, so of course it is actively working to discredit him and his message. Sending out a letter saying that Sander's supporters have a penchant for violence is not an action being taken with the public's good at heart. It is cynical propaganda. Reid is a part of that very establishment as well, so don't be surprised if we aren't moved by an echo-chamber of manufactured outrage.
procon
(15,805 posts)What was his point in trying to drag in unrelated crimes at his campaign officeas some sort of a justification for what his group did in Nevada?
He left a huge gap between just condemning violence and forcefully telling his gang to knock it off or go home. His out of controll followers have done more to strangle Sanders campaign and kill off the future of his so called revolution, than any other outside source.
Keep up the good job everyone!
alcibiades_mystery
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Tommy_Carcetti
(44,446 posts)....I might suggest just a tad bit more subtly.
creeksneakers2
(7,959 posts)I don't blame Bernie for it but the exaggeration and hyperbole on the Internet has made Bernie's followers insane.
