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alp227

(32,015 posts)
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:52 PM May 2016

First segment of high-speed rail hits another snag

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

SACRAMENTO — It was supposed to be the easiest section of the High Speed Rail project: a 119-mile stretch in the Central Valley that would serve as the testing ground for the high speed trains before tracks are expanded south to Los Angeles and north to San Francisco.

But it’s proving to be more difficult than anticipated. On Wednesday, the High Speed Rail Authority informed the Obama Administration, in a contract amendment, that it expects the Central Valley track to be complete by 2022 instead of 2018 as originally projected.

Difficulty buying property and legal challenges contributed to the new timeline.

The four-year change sparked an onslaught of criticism from those who already oppose the $64 billion project, particularly Central Valley Republican lawmakers who have promised to block any additional federal funding once the current grant expires next year.

Read more: http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/First-segment-of-high-speed-rail-hits-another-snag-7683976.php?t=821c06a99c83ae78b0&cmpid=twitter-premium

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itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
1. abandon it and fast track the Hyperloop. n/t
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:56 PM
May 2016

It's already outdated and won't be as fast as originally proposed.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
5. Hyperloop would have ten times the property rights and legal challenges
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:43 PM
May 2016

HSR carries ten times as many people as hyperloop, you'd need ten hyperloops for the same capacity, requiring ten times as much property acquisition.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
10. the idea is to build the majority of it above or along side existing freeways
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:42 PM
May 2016

reducing the cost of acquiring property rights.

multiple pods and the sheer speed of it will be enough to address capacity.

elleng

(130,861 posts)
2. 'Difficulty buying property and legal challenges'
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:00 PM
May 2016

will likely be the case throughout, for those wondering why 'we' can't do passenger rail these days.

It's just not the same. Golden Spike Ceremony Re-Enact



trudyco

(1,258 posts)
6. we need high speed people movers
Wed May 18, 2016, 09:54 PM
May 2016

right above the freeways. I suppose it won't work in CA, though. Too earthquake prone.

ripcord

(5,327 posts)
9. They are calling it the Browndoggle now
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:15 PM
May 2016

If it were truly high speed rail I would support it but there are going to be segments of low speed rail. There is also the fact that the voter initiative that authorized this project set a minimum travel time, budget and construction time frame, none of those things will be met, they won't even be close. The will of the voters is being ignored, with all the changes they have made that don't meet the authorization threshold they should hold another vote on the issue but that won't happen because there is no chance of it winning.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
13. 100+ billion dollars on a choo-choo from Reedley to Madera?
Thu May 19, 2016, 07:52 PM
May 2016

If you think this is a good idea, then I have a Bay Bridge to sell you. (at six times whatever we agree upon).

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
11. I like the strategy...
Thu May 19, 2016, 02:44 PM
May 2016

Start in the central valley, the cheapest California land. Joining two cow towns with a bullet train is just what we need and will make the concept a success.

Why build around LA or SF, which was the voter mandate. Imagine a 15 minute ride from SF to San Jose, keep imagining.

Over time land around LA and SF will only get cheaper....

The coast is full of state and federal land that made available to the project would make it cheaper and actually provide a direct link between LA and the bay area.

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