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cachukis

(3,938 posts)
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:19 PM Jun 2012

Roberto Unger, Obama's Former Harvard Law School Professor, Says The President 'Must Be Defeated'

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Source: Huffingtonpost

One of President Barack Obama's former professors appears to have turned against him, according to a recent YouTube video.

"President Obama must be defeated in the coming election," Roberto Unger, a longtime professor at Harvard Law School who taught Obama, said in a video posted on May 22. "He has failed to advance the progressive cause in the United States."

Unger said that Obama must lose the election in order for "the voice of democratic prophecy to speak once again in American life."

He acknowledged that if a Republican wins the presidency, "there will be a cost ... in judicial and administrative appointments." But he said that "the risk of military adventurism" would be no worse under a Republican than under Obama, and that "the Democratic Party proposes no new direction."


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/16/roberto-unger-obama_n_1602812.html



I am very torn by this guy's sentiments. I believe that nadirs must be part of the equation, but I continue to rely on the smart people to rise. Maybe this guy is the smart person. I hate the idea of handing our nadir over to the other guy, but what if he is right?

Sadly, I've never gotten over the assassinations. I was led to believe that independent educated thought could change the world for the better and indeed it has; despite the opposition. We are fighting the Pardoner of Chaucer, who was so solipsistic that he mutilated himself for financial gain.

Reason, the hallmark of the Enlightenment, has been brushed aside for the gut.

Maybe the dumb masses are Houdinis, escapists.

Evolution is a powerful force.
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Roberto Unger, Obama's Former Harvard Law School Professor, Says The President 'Must Be Defeated' (Original Post) cachukis Jun 2012 OP
OMG IHateTheGOP Jun 2012 #1
the voice of democratic prophecy to speak once again in American life. AlbertCat Jun 2012 #2
I do not know if this country could survive Willard Angry Dragon Jun 2012 #3
"nadirs must be part of the equation" Enrique Jun 2012 #4
Big mouth for a guy who doesn't live here, I think Scootaloo Jun 2012 #5
So the only way we can get a real leftist in the WH is to let the GOP win? Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #6
I wonder how big the check is, that he has received. secondwind Jun 2012 #7
We must destroy the village in order to save it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2012 #8
The guy is a NUT!!! READ THIS. secondwind Jun 2012 #9
+1 Faygo Kid Jun 2012 #13
Not a very smart man for a professor. warrior1 Jun 2012 #10
I am hearing this from many quarters. This argument will be a bigger hurdle for Obama JDPriestly Jun 2012 #11
Why would I listen to a Brazilian citizen about who to elect, here? msanthrope Jun 2012 #12
Fine line meet madness or something like that. katsy Jun 2012 #14
When has that ever worked? Mz Pip Jun 2012 #15
This is not Breaking News OKNancy Jun 2012 #16
Yeah, and it made no difference whether Bush or Gore was president, either. Faygo Kid Jun 2012 #17
 

IHateTheGOP

(1,059 posts)
1. OMG
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:21 PM
Jun 2012

This guy sounds like Nader. We must lose to have purity. It's nuts.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
2. the voice of democratic prophecy to speak once again in American life.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:21 PM
Jun 2012

What IS he talking about????

Shut up!

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
3. I do not know if this country could survive Willard
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:22 PM
Jun 2012

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
4. "nadirs must be part of the equation"
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:24 PM
Jun 2012

pun intended or not, that's brilliant.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
5. Big mouth for a guy who doesn't live here, I think
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:25 PM
Jun 2012

I suspect that whatever the outcome of the US election, Brazil will remain nice and cozy for mr. Unger.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
6. So the only way we can get a real leftist in the WH is to let the GOP win?
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:25 PM
Jun 2012

Where oh where have I heard this "strategy" before??

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
7. I wonder how big the check is, that he has received.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:26 PM
Jun 2012

The Velveteen Ocelot

(130,538 posts)
8. We must destroy the village in order to save it.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:27 PM
Jun 2012

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
9. The guy is a NUT!!! READ THIS.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:29 PM
Jun 2012

Faygo Kid

(21,492 posts)
13. +1
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:34 PM
Jun 2012

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
10. Not a very smart man for a professor.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:29 PM
Jun 2012

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. I am hearing this from many quarters. This argument will be a bigger hurdle for Obama
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:31 PM
Jun 2012

than Adelson's money or the Republicans in the media.

And frankly, Obama and we are going to have a very hard time arguing with this.

Every time someone on DU points out the fact that Obama really hasn't fought for progressive ideas, hasn't used the tools at his disposal -- like the veto -- to get what progressives want, someone on DU starts bashing the Obama critique.

But, frankly, the Obama critiques on DU are the canaries in the coal mine. Obama is going to have to answer the criticism from people who are more progressive than he is and blame the slow progress in the economy, the continued fraud and cheating on Wall Street and in the banks, the decline of the housing market, the increase in health care costs -- on Obama's yielding to the pressure of the right-wing and wealthy donors.

The Greens are presenting an alternative to Obama. I wish that Obama would speak directly to this problem.

I am working for Obama's election campaign and want him to win, but many of my friends are very opposed to voting for Obama. We cannot just ignore or condemn these people. Many of them are tried and true Democrats -- who feel that Obama has let them down.

Please, please Obama. If you want to be re-elected, you need to respond to these voters with more than words.

Amnesty for the Dreamers is controversial in the absence of a stronger jobs policy, and support for gay marriage is great but also supported by the Greens. Progressives want stricter regulation of corporations and more aggressive action on the economy as well as an end to imperialist wars.

Progressives supported Obama with not just numbers but lots of money and energy in 2008. Obama cannot afford to lose their energy and intelligent input into his campaign. We are talking about people like me who write and speak persuasively at the local level. Obama needs to keep people like me on his side. So far he is not doing a good job of it.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
12. Why would I listen to a Brazilian citizen about who to elect, here?
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:34 PM
Jun 2012

Mr. Unger has no dog in this fight. Why would I listen to him?

katsy

(4,246 posts)
14. Fine line meet madness or something like that.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:36 PM
Jun 2012

This really is not helpful.

Even if he is theoretically correct, people will suffer real damages. Mitt will finish what dubya started: the dismantling of FDR's New Deal, the decimation of the middle class as well as our civil rights (they will pack the SC with reactionary justices).


Mz Pip

(28,456 posts)
15. When has that ever worked?
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:36 PM
Jun 2012

The idea that we should elect a right wing tool because it will make things better for progressives eventually, somewhere down the line, is crazy talk.

I've never heard of "democratic prophecy" either.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
16. This is not Breaking News
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:37 PM
Jun 2012

This is an article that is reporting about a video posted on May 22.
It's an article about someone's opinion.

Please post in another forum

Faygo Kid

(21,492 posts)
17. Yeah, and it made no difference whether Bush or Gore was president, either.
Sat Jun 16, 2012, 07:37 PM
Jun 2012

What bullshit. The future of every decent, hardworking middle class or poor person is at stake. It's Adelson and the Kochs vs. America. Do I have arguments with Obama? You bet. Do I want to even speculate what it will be like if Romney and his ilk gain power? No.

Screw this guy. Vote Obama as though your lives depend upon it. They do.

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