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brooklynite

(94,737 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:44 PM May 2016

Sanders backs DNC chair's primary opponent

Source: Politico

Bernie Sanders says he is supporting the primary opponent of Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
Sanders, speaking to CNN’s Jake Tapper in an interview airing Sunday on "State of the Union," said, “well, clearly, I favor her opponent. His views are much closer to mine than as to Wasserman Schultz’s.”

Tim Canova is challenging Wasserman Schultz in Florida’s 23rd congressional district, which holds its primary on Aug. 30.

Sanders also told Tapper that if he were to be elected president, he wouldn’t want Wasserman Schultz leading the DNC. His remarks come amid a longstanding feud between Sanders and the Democratic party apparatus during the Vermont senator's run for the presidential nomination against Hillary Clinton.

POLITICO Florida reported last week that Canova is on pace to raise $1 million since he entered the race officially on Jan. 7.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/bernie-sanders-debbie-wasserman-schultz-primary-223443

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Sanders backs DNC chair's primary opponent (Original Post) brooklynite May 2016 OP
DUH Iliyah May 2016 #1
Food For Thought billhicks76 May 2016 #50
Sanders is the kind of Democrat that is now rare in the party. ananda May 2016 #53
No payday loan for him Zorro May 2016 #81
Good Sherman A1 May 2016 #2
Are the Hill People supporting Wasserboard Schultz? I suppose they must be. n/t brewens May 2016 #3
Without fail. nt phazed0 May 2016 #48
Why wouldn't they support someone who supports Republicans and loan sharks? Scootaloo May 2016 #54
Most irrational post if the day SCantiGOP May 2016 #68
Not at all. DWS has supported Republicans over Democrats, and is a big defender of Payday Loans Scootaloo May 2016 #74
Some background on Debbie Wasserman-Schultz: bvar22 May 2016 #80
Good post. raging moderate May 2016 #71
More like... nxylas May 2016 #72
Good point. n/t QC May 2016 #73
I knew this already, but... ReRe May 2016 #4
RIGHT ON !!! LOL !! pangaia May 2016 #7
GOOD. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #5
This is about as shocking as water being wet. jeff47 May 2016 #6
11 Governors, 13 Senators, 69 Reps, 913 state seats, and left with 26% of the electorate MisterP May 2016 #8
She's been outstanding at getting LibDemAlways May 2016 #24
no, literally--she picks Pubs to run as Blue and blocks anyone who worked in the party MisterP May 2016 #29
And the Clinton wing of the party sneers about "Purity" while genuflecting for Republicans Scootaloo May 2016 #55
Meanwhile, DWS, true to form, is backing her Republican opponent RufusTFirefly May 2016 #9
What? SCantiGOP May 2016 #69
I was being facetious RufusTFirefly May 2016 #70
I just sent $$ to Tim Canova left-of-center2012 May 2016 #10
He could use a little work in the getting along with others department. nt ucrdem May 2016 #11
He is Equinox Moon May 2016 #13
The idea is to NOT "get along" with the status quo. Plucketeer May 2016 #23
If by some twisted fate he does, Clinton still wins. ucrdem May 2016 #25
Clinton wins without progressive support? As.If. truebluegreen May 2016 #31
She'll get plenty of progressive support. ucrdem May 2016 #36
Progressives like DWS maybe. truebluegreen May 2016 #39
So you're saying that Perot Plucketeer May 2016 #41
To paraphrase the estimable Chris Hedges . . . ucrdem May 2016 #43
no, hating what they DO, and what they enable, hating who controls/supports them AntiBank May 2016 #59
💩 of the mouth syndrome greiner3 May 2016 #26
Not feeling any outrage here. Kall May 2016 #12
So do I. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #14
I think its time to send Tim Canova another donation. mudstump May 2016 #15
Sanders supporters are either all rich SCantiGOP May 2016 #17
Last week I saw one guy post "sending another $27 to Bernie" three times in two hours. AlbertCat May 2016 #27
I realize a lot if Sanders supporters are very easy to persuade SCantiGOP May 2016 #40
Sanders supporters very easy to persuade? pmorlan1 May 2016 #52
Did my post really need.... AlbertCat May 2016 #66
We are greiner3 May 2016 #28
Yeah, I'm so rich, I took all my tip money from delivering pizzas Friday, and sent it to Bernie. Fuddnik May 2016 #61
Well if he is just saying that now he is way behind his jwirr May 2016 #16
And Sanders' and Canova's views are much closer to mine. Duval May 2016 #18
Excellent - Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious May 2016 #19
Bad news for Canova. nt onehandle May 2016 #20
How so? Do you support DWS? cali May 2016 #21
Bad news for Canova. AlbertCat May 2016 #30
She refuses to debate him and wouldn't let him access Democratic voting data. think May 2016 #35
She refuses to debate him and wouldn't let him access Democratic voting data. AlbertCat May 2016 #37
Just sent money to Canova mainer May 2016 #22
Kick with love for Bernie 840high May 2016 #32
Nothing like being vindictive. George II May 2016 #33
+1! eom BlueMTexpat May 2016 #62
Good. bigwillq May 2016 #34
Sander's Lost DWS's district 75-25... Henhouse May 2016 #38
Good. LS_Editor May 2016 #42
All Corporate Tools Should Be Primaried scottie55 May 2016 #44
Well, why the hell shouldn't he. She hasn't exactly been fair to him. liberalnarb May 2016 #45
Good. Ferd Berfel May 2016 #46
Sofa King Cool Jump!!! libodem May 2016 #47
Great! dpatbrown May 2016 #49
Pay Day Loan Debbie. CentralMass May 2016 #51
Thanks for sharing the good news. nt Nyan May 2016 #56
Good. Third Doctor May 2016 #57
This will not make a difference RogerM May 2016 #58
Good. I hope that biased election disaster goes down to an ignomineous defeat! Betty Karlson May 2016 #60
Given she is supporting his primary opponent, that seems fair. quakerboy May 2016 #63
Good, we need to win this time. nt bemildred May 2016 #64
I am getting very FlaGranny May 2016 #65
Happy to make it 100 Recs KeepItReal May 2016 #67
Of course he does. He is not a Democrat, never has been one question everything May 2016 #75
He doesn't even hang out with lobbyists! What a loser..... think May 2016 #76
In an ideal world lobbyist would be welocmed question everything May 2016 #77
Ya. we get it. Now that Clinton is taking all that corporate cash corporate lobbyists are swell... think May 2016 #78
As anyone who supports Democrats and democracy should. cui bono May 2016 #79
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
50. Food For Thought
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

Democrats keep pointing out that Bernie isnt a real Democrat and is an independent. They should bite their tongue. Imagine if Bernie didnt run in this primary and instead ran as an independent. That would assure a Clinton loss in the general. Clintonites shouldnt act so spoiled because its turning them and their judgement rotten.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
74. Not at all. DWS has supported Republicans over Democrats, and is a big defender of Payday Loans
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:59 PM
May 2016

Not my fault ifg you don't know shit about the person you root for, man. Seems to be a pattern with some people.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
80. Some background on Debbie Wasserman-Schultz:
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:43 PM
May 2016

She should have been fired in 2008.
The fact that she wasn't raises many questions about our Party Leadership.


In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:

Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia

Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez

Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo

All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.




FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>

Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.

While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:

But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.

Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:

The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537










The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.

They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."

This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html


Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing




A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly. Now I find that DWS has been PROMOTED from Chair of the Red to Blue Program
to Chair of the DNC. She must be making the "Centrist" Democratic Leadership VERY HAPPY if they are rewarding THIS kind of Party Treason.

bvar22
Cursed with a memory

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama


With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
72. More like...
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:19 PM
May 2016

...why wouldn't they support the person responsible for rigging the election in their candidate's favour? Yes, one possible answer might be that they'd prefer their candidate to win fairly, but we all know that most Hillary supporters (at least the ones on DU) don't think that way.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
4. I knew this already, but...
Sat May 21, 2016, 04:59 PM
May 2016

... since you brought it up, brooklynite, here's his actblue page if anyone is interested in supporting his run against DW-S!

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4timcanova

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. This is about as shocking as water being wet.
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:02 PM
May 2016

Perhaps her record of continuous, massive losses should be an indication that someone else should have the job.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
29. no, literally--she picks Pubs to run as Blue and blocks anyone who worked in the party
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

from primarying them and forbids Dems from challenging the Diaz-Balart-Ros-Lehtinen clownshow

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
70. I was being facetious
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

It was an attempt at satire. Taking her occasional backing of Republicans to a humorous extreme.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
23. The idea is to NOT "get along" with the status quo.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:49 PM
May 2016

We've had that crap pushed on us for decades and we only get mired deeper to the Right. Screw that! What part of Revolution don't you comprehend?

I am gonna think long and hard if by some twisted fate, Bernie's convinced to run as an independent. If he DOES THAT..... I'll take out a loan for the maximum I can give to him to support such a run.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
25. If by some twisted fate he does, Clinton still wins.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016

In fact it might help in a close race by splitting the anti-Clinton vote. Remember Ross Perot?

If Sanders runs 3rd party, Clinton wins. Here's why:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2017084

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
36. She'll get plenty of progressive support.
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:19 PM
May 2016

Think about it. But there's a longer discussion in the GDP link I posted above.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
43. To paraphrase the estimable Chris Hedges . . .
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:56 PM
May 2016

Hating the Clintons is a force that gives us meaning.

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
59. no, hating what they DO, and what they enable, hating who controls/supports them
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:55 AM
May 2016

at deep structural levels, and hating the corporatist system they embody, THAT is what drives progressives.

Kall

(615 posts)
12. Not feeling any outrage here.
Sat May 21, 2016, 05:30 PM
May 2016

Will report back if that changes. Don't hold your breath, I'm not a fan of either the payday loan industry or her performance as DNC chair.

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
17. Sanders supporters are either all rich
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:15 PM
May 2016

Or just like posting stuff like "think
I'll send more money."
Last week I saw one guy post "sending another $27 to Bernie" three times in two hours.
Not saying anybody is exaggerating; maybe that guy has a Super PAC.


 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
27. Last week I saw one guy post "sending another $27 to Bernie" three times in two hours.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

Wow! Freakin' $81.00! Only the rich could afford that! How is he gonna eat for the rest of the month????

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
40. I realize a lot if Sanders supporters are very easy to persuade
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:39 PM
May 2016

You really think he was sending donations every half hour in response to posts he disagreed with?

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
28. We are
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

As my monthly $27 donations are a lot more of a percentage of my income than her lobbyist friends' $1,000+ you owe me now

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
61. Yeah, I'm so rich, I took all my tip money from delivering pizzas Friday, and sent it to Bernie.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

On top of my regular monthly donations, and extra donations.

But, I'm just working for beer, golf, and Bernie money.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. Well if he is just saying that now he is way behind his
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:12 PM
May 2016

supporters. We have been donating to Tim for a long time already.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
18. And Sanders' and Canova's views are much closer to mine.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:15 PM
May 2016

Good for Sanders! Time to give more to both.


 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
30. Bad news for Canova.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:59 PM
May 2016

Is Debbie planning to sabotage his campaign with exclusion, nepotism and dirty tricks too?

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
37. She refuses to debate him and wouldn't let him access Democratic voting data.
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

So.... yes is the answer to my question.

Henhouse

(646 posts)
38. Sander's Lost DWS's district 75-25...
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016
https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/734121593622822913

Senator Al Giordano
?@AlGiordano

Wait. Does Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's primary opponent even want the endorsement of the guy who recently lost her district 75-25?
 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
49. Great!
Sat May 21, 2016, 10:14 PM
May 2016

And I hope he starts throwing his weight around much more often. As soon as the DMC head is gone, the better off we progressives will be.

RogerM

(150 posts)
58. This will not make a difference
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:30 AM
May 2016

Sanders lost the congressional district in Florida in March when the state held its presidential primary — earning 30 percent to Hillary Clinton’s 69 percent.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
60. Good. I hope that biased election disaster goes down to an ignomineous defeat!
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:52 AM
May 2016

And may the whole DINO-assinine stable follow her on her way out.

FlaGranny

(8,361 posts)
65. I am getting very
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:42 AM
May 2016

desperate-sounding e-mails from DWS daily. She is quite upset that she is being challenged.

question everything

(47,535 posts)
75. Of course he does. He is not a Democrat, never has been one
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:07 PM
May 2016

actively campaigned against Democrats, wanted someone to challenge Obama in 2012.... why should he change now?


question everything

(47,535 posts)
77. In an ideal world lobbyist would be welocmed
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:14 PM
May 2016

to inform elected officials. One cannot expect every elected officials to be well versed in all the details of a proposed law. If they are, they are charlatans.

In an ideal world, elected officials would be listening to lobbyists, study the issues and then make their own decision on how to vote.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
78. Ya. we get it. Now that Clinton is taking all that corporate cash corporate lobbyists are swell...
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:20 PM
May 2016

That's why too big to fail banks can become felons and the government just quietly changes the laws so they can continue working with the government even though the banks have been caught rigging markets.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-hud-big-banks_us_55c4f2f2e4b0923c12bcc4b1

That's why over half of Senators and over 40% of our congress people become lobbyists.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130819/00581624225/50-retiring-senators-now-become-lobbyists-up-3-few-decades-ago.shtml

The system is corrupt and corporate lobbying & corruption is at the heart of it.

So no. In a perfect world lobbying would be tightly controlled and public corruption would be prosecuted....

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
79. As anyone who supports Democrats and democracy should.
Sun May 22, 2016, 03:26 PM
May 2016

Bernie always makes the choices that are good for the people.

DWS is a Republican backing, payday lending supporting, biased lyingt politician and needs to be voted out of office and fired as head of the DNC.

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