Dems discuss dropping Wasserman Schultz

[OrwellwasRight]

Source: The Hill

Democrats on Capitol Hill are discussing whether Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz should step down as Democratic National Committee (DNC) chairwoman before the party’s national convention in July.

Democrats backing likely presidential nominee Hillary Clinton worry Wasserman Schultz has become too divisive a figure to unify the party in 2016, which they say is crucial to defeating presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump in November.

Wasserman Schultz has had an increasingly acrimonious relationship with the party’s other presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders, and his supporters, who argue she has tilted the scales in Clinton’s favor.
“There have been a lot of meetings over the past 48 hours about what color plate do we deliver Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s head on,” said one pro-Clinton Democratic senator.

“There have been a lot of meetings over the past 48 hours about what color plate do we deliver Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s head on,” said one pro-Clinton Democratic senator.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/281147-dems-discuss-dropping-wasserman-schultz

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Further down in the article, many Dem House and Senate members deny all of this. But it is still interesting.

[Trust Buster]

1. Not going to happen. She will serve until the end of this cycle. But Sanders is free to leave.

[JDPriestly]

6. Be careful what you wish for.

[Trust Buster]

16. I'm very careful about wishing Sanders gone. LOL

[840high]

42. I'm just happy wishing

Clinton gone.

[Trust Buster]

44. That ship has sailed. She's the presumptive nominee.

[tabasco]

48. Sorry, nobody remembers "presumptive nominees."

Clinton is polling behind a republican clown car con man and her numbers will only go down.

She is the weakest candidate the Dems have ever put forward and becoming the official nominee won't help her a bit. Get used to hearing "President Trump."

[Trust Buster]

51. Still did better than Sanders. What does that say about him ?

[tabasco]

53. Why are you obsessed with Sanders if Clinton is the presumptive nominee?

Maybe you know it's the last "victory" H. Clinton will ever enjoy.

[Trust Buster]

54. No, I'm just reveling in his defeat.......LOL

[tabasco]

61. Weird.

Have at it.

[Baobab]

80. Nevada exaggeration disgraceful

It was so very unprofessional.

[sadoldgirl]

75. So, now out in the open: Better Trump than Bernie?

Yes, I thought you might be in his camp for quite a while.

[cui bono]

78. Many Hillary supporters are so corporate they just can't stand the fact that a progressive dared

speak out and wake up the people.

.

[Trust Buster]

79. Those are not the two choices before us. Good try.....LOL

[cannabis_flower]

93. Did better than Sanders

in states that had closed primaries. The general election isn't a closed primary.

[GoneOffShore]

101. Exactly. And will do so much worse in the general.

Although there are great numbers of people who have been persuaded by HRC-WJC, Inc. there are far greater numbers who are ready to never see the brand again.

[FighttheFuture]

109. Closed primaries, or open primaries... which on is more reflective of the nation and the will of the

people? Open primaries where Sanders did very well, or closed ones restricting choice that favored Hillary? Did she really do better? Don't seem so.

[NJCher]

64. English teacher here

Laughing at your alliteration: republican clown car con man.

And my friends wonder why I spend so much time on DU.


Cher

[dflprincess]

52. She does not get labeled the "presumptive nominee" until

Sanders drops out or she gets the number of pledged delegates required to clinch the nomination on the first ballot.

[Thor_MN]

63. She doesn't need the number of pledged delegates required to clinch the nomination

on the first ballot.

She just needs the number of delegates required to clinch the nomination on the first ballot.

The "Superdelegates don't count" meme was always just that - a meme. Superdelegates do count. And in all likelihood, come the first ballot, Clinton will have well over the number of delegates needed.

The most likely scenario to make that not happen is Sanders doing what Clinton did in 2008.



Pre-emptive note - I am not a Clinton supporter or a Sanders Supporter. I support the nominee, whoever that may be.

[Baobab]

82. Clinton's healthcare plan was a diversion from a trade deal that was making

affordable healthcare impossible.

You can verify that in 30 seconds. Use the first link in my sig.

The fourth link will show you the same 1995 trade deal is being used in TiSA and is an existential threat to public education, #1 on a bulleted list of big problems listed by the organization of all 850 accredited institutions of higher learning in the EU, even today.

Also the author of the first link in my sig died suddenly on August 8, 2009.

This is him a few weeks earlier

Something is not right.

[libdem4life]

127. Sorry, on CNN the D Party bigwig took our friend Tapper

by surprise when he told them they were NOT TO ADD SDs when reporting. Tapper was not amused.

[Raster]

17. The Party needs him and his supporters a hella lot more than it needs her.

She is being kicked to the curb even now in slow-mo. This little teaser from The Hill is advance publicity. Poor little Debbie...thought she was one of the cool Clinton kids...

[Trust Buster]

18. With friends like Sanders and his minions, who needs enemies ? I side with DWS.

[Raster]

25. I'm sure you do.

Maybe she can introduce you to her payday loan buddies...

[pmorlan1]

26. Of Course You Do

No one here is surprised.

[AlbertCat]

33. I side with DWS.

Well, people do dumb things all the time....

[markbark]

50. Supporting DWS?

Under her 'awesome' stewardship, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 Governorships, 69 House seats and 13 Senate seats.
Is this incompetence or malice? (or is it Bernie's fault? )

[LeFleur1]

73. Really?

Or did Democrats lose because a bunch of voters stayed home and did things they thought were more interesting and important than being responsible for the direction of their country?

[truebluegreen]

85. Maybe Democrats lost a bunch of voters because their candidates were

uninspiring and Republican Lite. Like DWS.

That said, I'm sure this is all just kabuki theater and little Debbie can count on a good position with her pal Hillary in the future.

[samson212]

103. Victim blaming?

I don't get this argument. How can you possibly blame the voters for being disinterested? Isn't it exactly the DNC's job to get / keep people engaged?

[Stryst]

105. Or maybe there are a bunch of laws screwing over low incomce Dem voters

But it's easier to say "they just stayed home to watch TV" rather than admit that some of us can't afford a basic ID card or will be homeless if we miss a day of work. Since the party doesn't want to do anything to help anyone that isn't a donor, it's easier for loyal foot soldiers to say "it's their own fault". It's almost like the Dems rhetoric about "helping the middle class" is just white noise to cover the sound of a bunch of middle class people clutching their purses and saying "Get in here, vote for us, then get out and be unseen for the next four years."

[nxylas]

94. If someone ran a business as badly as DWS runs the Democratic Party..

...the taxpayer would be funding their 7-figure bonus by now.

[chknltl]

111. ...and well on track to lose Presidency. nt

[Gore1FL]

66. Do you like her supporting Republicans or her support of usury more? nt

[AntiBank]

70. you damn well better hope the "minions" hold their collective noses or the country of Slovenia

is going to be the site of many a story for the next 5 years.

[cui bono]

76. Because you are just such a sweetheart.

The irony...



.

[FighttheFuture]

110. ...and her Payday Lender buddies, too!!! Enjoy your cesspool.

[INdemo]

125. If DWS wasn't such a shill for Hillary would you still support her?

Meaning..If Debbie Wassermann Schultz Rove was, or would have been neutral in this nominating process and didnt/wouldn't have
committed election fraud in several of the primaries,would you still support her?
I doubt that you would.

[Hoppy]

41. She will still be a cool Clinton kid --- maybe Secretary of Interior.

Don't worry. She will be rewarded for delivering the crown to its rightful owner.

[INdemo]

126. She could serve as Bill's scretary setting up his intinerary ??

[Nirgendwo]

22. Just as Hills was free to leave at this point back in 2008

but instead dug her heels in. What is wrong with letting it play out? What are Hillary and her supporters so afraid of?

[GoneOffShore]

102. The wind, they're afraid of the wind and the tides.

Because they can't change course fast enough to keep up.

And those course corrections are increasingly desperate.

[cui bono]

77. If he did Hillary would lose to him in the GE.

[randr]

98. Her relationship to Hillary is not the only reason DWS needs the axe

Her performance down the ticket is abysmal. I question anyone's judgement in keeping her around.

[riversedge]

2. The Hill is not friend to Hillary

[AntiBank]

62. you think the paper/website Hill is bad, wait for the 2017 Rethug Congress on THE Hill

cuz thats is right were HRC and DWS are heading us to

[Renew Deal]

3. She should go some time after June 14.

[cali]

89. Yep.

[zentrum]

4. She is divisive.

She runs the party like it's a clique. Bad leader.

[hedda_foil]

84. I think you've hit on it. She tries.to run the party like a sorority president.

Too bad mean girl doesn't work so well anymore.

[Betty Karlson]

124. that is a most apt comparison.

Let's remember that her most memorable act in the house was sporting some strange sun glasses and shouting out some support for the 'Gators'.

(note to respondents: I agree her cozying up to loansharks and prison industry should have been better remembered, but the lame sunglasses moment is the only one widely known on the Internet, thanks to John Oliver's show)

[JDPriestly]

5. She should resign, but she probably won't.

She should have apologized for the mess at the Nevada Convention, not asked for Bernie's apology.

There was no violence there. The whole thing was videotaped, and there was no violence.

There was a lot of yelling and fist-shaking, but no violence.

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz misrepresented what happened in Nevada and should resign.

[OrwellwasRight]

9. I'm glad somebody else saw what I saw in the NV videos.

All I saw was yelling. And yelling isn't violence. It's just yelling.

[Raster]

23. There was no violence in NV. It was manufactured outrage and slight-of-hand.

Sleight of hand (also known as prestidigitation or legerdemain) refers to fine motor skills when used by performing artists in different art forms to entertain or manipulate. It is closely associated with close-up magic, card cheating, card flourishing and stealing.

Slight-of-hand refers to ballot cheating and election stealing, involving dubious party "leadership," and featuring dog-whistle distractions. See Barbara "I was a-feared for my life" Boxer.

[w4rma]

7. Clinton is too arrogant and too vindictive to allow her to step down.

And if she did step down, or if she loses her seat, Clinton will certainly be there with a golden parachute for her. And we're STILL going to have to put up with DWS as long as the Clintons are abusing their power.

[OrwellwasRight]

19. Maybe she will get a choice appointment in some non-descript corner of the federal government.

Maybe she will be responsible for overseeing the frozen concentrated orange juice futures reports. Great job for a Floridian!

[Hoppy]

43. Maybe Associate Justice?

[OrwellwasRight]

47. I hope not.

We don't need any more justices who will side with corporate America over average people.

[Gore1FL]

69. If Clinton is the nominee I am only voting for her in the GE for her SCOTUS choices.

If she actually pulled bullshit like that, I'd never vote Dem again.

[BuelahWitch]

99. I'm sure there is a place for her in the Payday Loan Industry...n/t

[bluestateguy]

8. There's no free lunch, especially when you lose

So if the Sanders crowd wants her out, ok, we can talk about that, but we will want to hear what we are getting in return.

They cannot just be allowed to pocket that concession, give up nothing and demand more and more.

[w4rma]

11. You aren't getting anything back from me for this little morsel. She should have been gone years ago

Besides her obvious favoritism, and the Clintonite nepotism that got her the job in the first place, she's completely incompetent in her job.

[Chipper Chat]

100. All that and more.

I've been uncomfortable with her interviews on cable where her acid tongue ate in to republicans - ANY republican - for their positions. It embarrassed me that she had to attack them personally and cheaply (this was mostly 4-8 years ago). I don't know if she's moderated any because when I see that she will be a guest I change the channel.

[HeartoftheMidwest]

13. It's not the Sanders crowd:

"Democrats backing likely presidential nominee Hillary Clinton worry Wasserman Schultz has become too divisive a figure.."

Democrats...Backing....Clinton.

[AlbertCat]

35. There's no free lunch, even if you manage to win!

Hillary will have a lot of bankers and lobbyists calling in favors for years!

[passiveporcupine]

58. What you will be getting in return

Would hopefully be a more fair democratic process. And if that doesn't please you, that's on you.

[jalan48]

10. Maybe she'll switch to the Republican Party once the Democrats move left.

It's all about "values".

[Raster]

29. They don't call her DINO Debbie for nothing.

[Enthusiast]

106. Listen! Debbie is no more of a DINO than Hillary!

[Raster]

122. You got me there.... cannot disagree!

[Nyan]

12. Translation: She's done all the rigging we could possibly hope for,

and now, off you go. We'll put you in the cabinet if we get there. Just wait.

[xloadiex]

14. Too little too late n/t

[djean111]

15. She has openly supported her GOP cronies, down here in Florida.

This is how fucked up the Democratic Party is - Debbie DINO would be tossed from DU for supporting GOP candidates over Democratic candidates - but she is welcomed as National Chair of the Democratic National Party by Obama and Hillary.

I am told I must swear allegiance to the Democratic Party and to always vote for the "D" (that they order me to vote for) - but their National Chair can openly support her GOP buddies here in Florida.

How can anyone think this is okay, and that this must be supported?

Oh, I do hope that Hillary & Campaign Co. does not think that sacrificing DWS will make things all better and make it easier to support Hillary. This is just doing something that should have been done a long time ago.

[oberliner]

46. Which GOP candidates did she support over Democrats?

Can you provide some examples?

[dflprincess]

57. Here you go

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article24478039.html

[div class = "excerpt"]
..But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

That wasn't the case just two years ago when the pair flouted a long-standing Florida delegation agreement to not campaign against colleagues and vigorously backed Ron Klein in his winning bid to oust veteran Republican Rep. Clay Shaw.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

The decision comes as Democrats believe they have their best shot in years to defeat at least one of the Cuban-American incumbents with a roster of Democrats that include former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, outgoing Miami-Dade Democratic party chair Joe Garcia and businesswoman Annette Taddeo.

But Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their ties to the three Republicans are personal as well as professional: Both served in the state Legislature with Mario Diaz-Balart and say they work in concert with all three on South Florida issues.


Why she wasn't removed from the DNC when she pulled this stunt, I'll never understand. The DFL doesn't allow you to hold a post as lowly as precinct chair if you get caught supporting a Republican.

[StoneCarver]

97. Ouch!

Thanks for the info. The DNC sent me a letter asking for money. I sent it back with a note "I'll send money when you fire DWS". I'll support Tim C. And send him money, but it won't matter. She'll be rewarded if Hillary wins!
Stonecarver

[NJCher]

68. was totally unaware of this

Glad you posted it.

Downthread is an article to back you up. In it, DWS has the nerve to come right out and say she and the repukes are personal friends.

How unprofessional. Unbelievable what she gets away with. And your point about getting booted off here for doing the same is 100 per cent correct.



Cher

[still_one]

20. What a bullshit article. Not one Democrat who is calling for this is named, but those that are

named say that the DNC chair isn't going anyway

This is not based on confirmed sources, but innuendos and rumors

[AlbertCat]

38. This is not based on confirmed sources, but innuendos and rumors

Like Hillary's awesomeness is.

[imari362]

40. .......

[NV Whino]

21. A little late, but not going to happen anyway.

[onehandle]

24. In 1 year Hillary will be President, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz will be a sitting Representative.

She might not be the DNC Chair. Things change with a new President. We'll see.

Bernie will be back to only being seen on MSNBC and other cable news channels.

[AlbertCat]

39. Bernie will be back to only being seen on MSNBC and other cable news channels.

He's been seen a lot in the Senate for years now.

Dismissive, smug hubris is the Clinton stamp..... as we can clearly see by your post.

It's also like her supporters were born yesterday!

[Lordquinton]

88. Bernie has been doing his job this entire time

One thing holding back his campaign was his trips back to the hill to vote when needed. Is Hillary even employed right now?

[freebrew]

104. She gets paid to tell...

the bankers how bad they are: "Now, Cut that out!"

[AntiBank]

65. a sitting Representative making sure that usury payday loans flow like water to rape the poor

[Gore1FL]

71. If your scenario plays out, in 4 years Hillary will likely be primaried if she wins at all.

But at least you'll have your vitriol!

[Gman]

27. Won't be good enough for the purists.

Nothing ever is and they make sure of it.

[AntiBank]

67. I love how now actually being even mildly progressive is now "purist" into today's triangulated

Democratic Party. We are so screwed.

[ThoughtCriminal]

28. Blue is a nice.

If that will save some debate over plate color, you're welcome.

[Hiraeth]

116. and see, I was leaning toward a silver platter. but, I am willing to compromise

[Omaha Steve]

30. FIRE DWS! Donate to Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23 here

Get her out of US Congress too.

Donate through DU here: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4timcanova





Or through JPR: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/jpr4timcanova

[Jester Messiah]

31. She's served her purpose.

She put her thumb on all the right scales. Now she can bow out and get rewarded with a cushy position at the Clinton Foundation.

[pmorlan1]

34. If they were smart

they would get rid of her but sadly I haven't seen them be smart for quite some time.

[mudstump]

36. I'll believe it when I see it.

[ReRe]

37. Dump her...

... and tell her to take Hillary with her.

[d_legendary1]

45. Even if they dump her

She'll come back to Congress as a lobbyist.

[Xyzse]

49. Term limits is there. I just don't care if they are discussing her leaving.

She's going to be gone as chair anyhow.

Intimating that they will remove her as chair as a peace offering or an opening to heal the rifts Clinton's campaign and her actions has done is ridiculous and a cynical action to a wholly cynical campaign.

Besides, this seems to be an article with no substance, as if floating an idea to allow DWS to take a pretense of a fall.

I just don't see the point.

[LovingA2andMI]

55. Can We Dance...

Debbie on OUT THE DOOR. LET...THIS...HAPPEN....YESTERDAY!

[Purveyor]

56. CNN is covering this as I type... eom

[Cobalt Violet]

59. Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.

Maybe premature but I got excite for a few and this song just appeared in my head.

[AntiBank]

60. the ONLY reason ANYONE is siding with DWS is because she is a Clinton Shill

There is NO WAY to spin it in any other direction

[Gore1FL]

72. It certainly isn't talent or job performance. n/t

[bullwinkle428]

74. PLEASE let it be so...

[disillusioned73]

81. Wow..

One can hope, maybe they are just putting feelers out there.. like the Harry Reid statement about Bernie.. maybe the establishment is just trying to play nice after the Nevada fiasco.. just long enough to come up with a new smear campaign... u know itz coming

[raindaddy]

83. If it happens drinks are on the house at the DU Pub......

[trudyco]

86. Not a good week for Clinton DNC heads

Wonder what's going on.

Wonder if they've gotten anywhere with the NYC corruption investigation, too. Police and de Blasio and those two Real Estate magnates. Is Andrew Cuomo next?

Using nonprofits as a slush fund for politicians seems to be the new in thing.

[Android3.14]

90. That would be a start

But it's going to take much more than finding a scapegoat to fix the damage the HRC camp has done to the party and to the democratic process.

[Harriety]

91. Already everyone is at each others throats..

and making this about their candidates. We need to pull together to make sure Trump is not elected. Too many Trump trolls have gotten in the way. Last week they took over twitter, and don't I know it. Yes, we want to back out candidates but we need to put more focus on what we can do to unite and beat that asshole Trump to the punch.

Wake up. His trolls have been very busy pitting us against each other and winning. I do not hate Hillary, she is very capable of being our next President, and I am sure Hillary's supporters remember when Bernie was out on the floor filibustering for days for people to receive unemployment benefits and being the good senator he has always been. Both are good choices in their own ways.

To the point: Debbie Wasserman Schultz has not been good for our party. She has cast a very negative pall over the whole election process that was already messed up to begin with, and she needs to be ousted as chairwoman. I think it would be a good move for everyone concerned about our country's welfare.

[jonestonesusa]

96. A voice of reason.

Whether one supports Clinton or Sanders, it's clear that DWS has not been a unifying party leader, nor has she had a good record of winning down ticket campaigns. What's the upside of her leadership? I see none. Why not look for effective leadership if you don't have it now?

[OrwellwasRight]

112. Agree.

[jeff47]

117. Waaaaaaaaay too lat for that.

And this goes back to before Trump even announced his campaign, so you can't blame it only on pro-Trump trolls.

[cantbeserious]

92. The Real Story - DWS Has Become A Drag On HRC

eom

[OrwellwasRight]

95. True. nt.

[hueymahl]

108. Bingo

HRC was loyal to her as long as it is advantageous to do so. It no longer is.

[GummyBearz]

107. DWS offered up as the sacrificial lamb to bring Sanders supporters on board with HRC

It is pretty poetic. I bet Debbie didn't see that one coming. She worked her ass off to make HRC the nominee and then gets shit canned in order to help HRC in the general. Shakespear level plot line.

[Gore1FL]

113. She needs to go becasue she is bad at the job (and bad at being human)

Getting rid of her will neither harm nor help my healing in regards to Clinton. It will make me feel a lot better about the DNC.

[GummyBearz]

114. I agree with you completely

I'm just saying its funny to me thinking of DWS getting canned by Hillary after all that DWS did to help her out. It could end up being the best part of a HRC nomination

[DinahMoeHum]

115. Meanwhile, let's help kick DWS's ass out of Congress. . .

. . .come the Florida congressional primary August 30.

Donate to her opponent, Tim Canova:

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/du4timcanova
https://timcanova.com/
https://www.facebook.com/TimCanovaForCongress/

[fbc]

118. Fire the republican sympathizer!

[marble falls]

119. Thankyou Bernie Sanders.

[CrispyQ]

120. Wonder how much a GOP PAC coming out in support of her had to do with it?

Good riddance. I'm sending monthly contributions to her challenger!

[Helen Borg]

121. DWS, the shit sandwich.

[SmittynMo]

123. DISCUSS?

Fuck discussing!!!!! Let's DO THIS THING!!!! It's long overdue.

[citizen blues]

128. NOT ditching her could fracture the party.

I know if she's still Chair, then right after the election in November, I will be changing my party affiliation to Independent after 33 years of being a registered Democrat!