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think

(11,641 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:00 PM May 2016

Video of Testimony in Clinton Email Lawsuit Ordered Sealed

Source: By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Recordings of upcoming testimony by an aide to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are to be kept under seal over concerns the video might be used against the Democratic presidential front-runner.

U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan ruled in advance of Friday's scheduled deposition by Clinton's former chief of staff, Cheryl Mills. She is among a half dozen current and former officials to be questioned about Clinton's use of a private email server when she was the nation's top diplomat.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/video-testimony-clinton-email-lawsuit-ordered-sealed-39413022

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Video of Testimony in Clinton Email Lawsuit Ordered Sealed (Original Post) think May 2016 OP
good. We have had enough of mockery by Republicans against Democrats. riversedge May 2016 #1
Why is this good? humbled_opinion May 2016 #4
The transcripts can be released Press Virginia May 2016 #27
Sure - but think of how this plays in Peoria. forest444 May 2016 #70
Thank goodness we'll be kept in the dark on one of our candidates. retrowire May 2016 #8
Do you have trouble reading? The transcripts will be released. riversedge May 2016 #53
transcripts can be taken out of context retrowire May 2016 #72
The Senate Judiciary Committee WILL get that video FreakinDJ May 2016 #51
Politics is mockery. christx30 May 2016 #57
I did not think anything about this email biz up until now, wth??? wendylaroux May 2016 #2
Judge Sullivan was appointed by ... wait for it, wait for it ... RufusTFirefly May 2016 #3
LOL.... humbled_opinion May 2016 #5
you would have preferred a Bush appointee so they would rule in favor of Judicial Watch? nt geek tragedy May 2016 #10
I would prefer an actual valid legal reason. "Embarrassment" isnt one. 7962 May 2016 #26
He doesn't want the case being used as a filming location geek tragedy May 2016 #41
Heck, transcript only could be MORE damaging! 7962 May 2016 #44
Video would be in addition to, not instead of, a transcript nt geek tragedy May 2016 #45
Oh, nothing to see here, right? Duval May 2016 #13
The Three Amigos RufusTFirefly May 2016 #14
Wouldn't you need to recuse yourself from the case? Jesus Malverde May 2016 #17
I'm sure Sullivan doesn't feel indebted to the Clintons at all... RufusTFirefly May 2016 #18
I'm sure, too. Duval May 2016 #19
the text will still be released, and now the text will be read with inflections that make it worse tomm2thumbs May 2016 #6
That's assuming the state department doesn't challenge it within the 3 day window. NWCorona May 2016 #12
Here's my impression of a Hillary supporter to this news. retrowire May 2016 #7
so you're taking Judicial Watch's side in this? nt geek tragedy May 2016 #11
why would you oppose what they're doing? Press Virginia May 2016 #29
Because I am not a Republican nt geek tragedy May 2016 #34
Demanding Transparency in government is a republican trait? Press Virginia May 2016 #35
Transcript is full transparency. geek tragedy May 2016 #37
I know this. The video should be sealed Press Virginia May 2016 #38
Lots of people in this thread disagree. geek tragedy May 2016 #39
I'm not one of them. Press Virginia May 2016 #40
Cheers nt geek tragedy May 2016 #42
Except for all those redacted lines. Other than that yea GummyBearz May 2016 #69
transcripts can be taken out of context retrowire May 2016 #71
so can video. Ask james O'Keefe. Too bad, so sad for Judicial Watch and its allies nt geek tragedy May 2016 #73
yes anything can be taken out of context retrowire May 2016 #76
Judicial Watch has one purpose--to file lawsuits against Democratic administrations geek tragedy May 2016 #77
Ethics are not dictated by the letter after a political name... TipTok May 2016 #46
Neither does Hillary Hatred nt geek tragedy May 2016 #47
Maybe she could stop doing things that engender such feelings... TipTok May 2016 #49
lol. 18 more days nt geek tragedy May 2016 #50
18 days until you can get back to your safe space... TipTok May 2016 #52
18 days until people at least have to pretend to be committed geek tragedy May 2016 #63
Same difference... TipTok May 2016 #64
yes, 18 days until those explicitly or implicitly rooting for a Trump victory geek tragedy May 2016 #65
Enjoy your safe space... TipTok May 2016 #67
Thank you. This is not a place for our partisan enemies geek tragedy May 2016 #68
She hasn't even testified yet. Darb May 2016 #54
Ordered sealed. What a joke ffr May 2016 #9
For the umpteenth time. Over 300,000 DEMOCRATS voted for Bush in Florida. eom zalinda May 2016 #21
And ~44% of eligible voters showed up. ffr May 2016 #60
Gore did not excite the people enough to get them out to vote. zalinda May 2016 #75
Agreed. ffr May 2016 #78
Donna Brazile was his campaign manager, enough said. eom zalinda May 2016 #79
Of course ... Jopin Klobe May 2016 #15
Justice is blind... NOT ConsiderThis_2016 May 2016 #16
Sounds like a job for Anonymous SusanLarson May 2016 #20
Transparency..... Mohammed_Lee May 2016 #22
Ooh, ouch. JudyM May 2016 #23
Surprised to see that one on DU, but it IS accurate nt 7962 May 2016 #28
I want to know: under what "principle" of law is protecting a presidential candidate against video JudyM May 2016 #24
They don't want it used in a campaign ad Press Virginia May 2016 #30
Right, but a judge ruled to keep it under wraps -- it should be for a legal reason. JudyM May 2016 #31
The transcripts can be released Press Virginia May 2016 #32
Yes. Still want to know the basis under which the vid is being withheld. JudyM May 2016 #33
Don't be daft. Darb May 2016 #55
You've revealed yourself as the daft one. There isn't an issue about a swarm of cameras... there is JudyM May 2016 #58
Uhhhh, duh. She hasn't testified. Darb May 2016 #59
Wow, you are just off. Sayonara. JudyM May 2016 #61
Uh, no, wrong again. Darb May 2016 #62
Um, that doesnt sound like an actual LEGAL reason to seal it 7962 May 2016 #25
The purposes of those depositions is not to provide fodder for political ads. geek tragedy May 2016 #36
"She is among a half dozen current and former officials to be questioned . . . " Major Hogwash May 2016 #43
Cheryl Mills, Army brat, has quite a few career paths linked to the Clintons SuperHighway bobthedrummer May 2016 #48
Hold on................ Darb May 2016 #56
The video can't be released because it might 'embarrass' Clinton? Rozlee May 2016 #66
Facts cannot be allowed near Hillary. Don't look at her too closely, folks. senz May 2016 #74
What? No "drip drip drip" troll? 6000eliot May 2016 #80
Excellent we win and they can go to hell wondering what is on the recording. ileus May 2016 #81

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
4. Why is this good?
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:08 PM
May 2016

Don't we have a right to know what the truth is before we blindly choose a candidate that may well be unable to be elected or worse lose so badly that Trump runs coat tails with packed house and senate? How Opaque of her....

forest444

(5,902 posts)
70. Sure - but think of how this plays in Peoria.
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:24 PM
May 2016

The optics are anything but good, and will only help underscore the voters' already deep distrust of the former Secretary (whether justified or not).

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
51. The Senate Judiciary Committee WILL get that video
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:38 AM
May 2016

and hold Impeachment Hearings

The Judge's order is only effective against Right Wing Media

christx30

(6,241 posts)
57. Politics is mockery.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:13 AM
May 2016

Anyone that can't stand to be mocked shouldn't run for public office.
I have a great deal of contempt toward anyone that would run for office. It's a power grab, under the guise of vanity. "This country is going through a lot of crap, but *I* am the one that's going to make everything ok."
Everyone from the local dog catcher to the President of the United States, regardless of party, should be mocked relentlessly. Their time on the campaign trail and in office should be an absolutely miserable existence.
That's the only way we know that we are getting public servants, rather than rulers.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
41. He doesn't want the case being used as a filming location
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:32 PM
May 2016

for political ads. Transcript is enough. Judicial Watch and its fellow travelers have no legitimate reason for demanding the video in addition to the transcript.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
44. Heck, transcript only could be MORE damaging!
Fri May 27, 2016, 07:23 AM
May 2016

Its like texting, you cant tell emphasis or inflection from a transcript. Which means they could toy around with a statement and it would be up to ills to 'clarify" what was said and how. A video takes away that chance
Or, there may be nothing at all to see, who knows

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
14. The Three Amigos
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:30 PM
May 2016

He was appointed to the Superior Court of the District of Columbia by President Ronald Reagan in 1984. In 1991, he was appointed by President George Bush to serve as an associate Judge of the District of Columbia Court of Appeals. In 1994, he was appointed by President Bill Clinton to serve as United States District Judge for the District of Columbia.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
18. I'm sure Sullivan doesn't feel indebted to the Clintons at all...
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:14 PM
May 2016

... any more than Hillary feels indebted to Goldman Sachs for paying her hundreds of thousands of dollars for making a few speeches.

It's what they offered.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
6. the text will still be released, and now the text will be read with inflections that make it worse
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:09 PM
May 2016

they should have simply released it all in total

imagine all the ways the words will be mis-read to change context!


SHE saw me changing email.

She SAW me changing email.

She saw ME changing email.

She saw me CHANGING email.

She saw me changing EMAIL.




retrowire

(10,345 posts)
7. Here's my impression of a Hillary supporter to this news.
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:10 PM
May 2016

Yay! Thank goodness I'll still be able to vote for a nominee that may or may not be involved in some seedy shit!

I hate knowing the details!

Hooray for being uninformed!

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
35. Demanding Transparency in government is a republican trait?
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:24 PM
May 2016

here I thought we had a right to know what our government officials are doing or not doing

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
37. Transcript is full transparency.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:27 PM
May 2016

The judge doesn't want the case politicized. Judicial Watch and its allies can go pound sand.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
39. Lots of people in this thread disagree.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:30 PM
May 2016

I will not speculate as to why they want Judicial Watch to be able to use that video footage in political ads.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
76. yes anything can be taken out of context
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

Transcripts can be redacted. Video makes it harder to do that.

You'd do well to treat others with opposing opinions with respect. I have no idea what judicial watch is but I'm assuming it's some right wing nonsense.

That said, be kinder. You never really know who you're talking to.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
77. Judicial Watch has one purpose--to file lawsuits against Democratic administrations
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:11 PM
May 2016

in order to harass them and damage them in elections.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
46. Ethics are not dictated by the letter after a political name...
Fri May 27, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

Equal standards for everyone should be the goal.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
49. Maybe she could stop doing things that engender such feelings...
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016

... From across the political spectrum.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
52. 18 days until you can get back to your safe space...
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:40 AM
May 2016

... Where no one can challenge you or point out factual flaws with the Democratic nominee?

Doesn't that sound intellectually stimulating.

Maybe that's not why you come here. To each his own...

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
63. 18 days until people at least have to pretend to be committed
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:44 AM
May 2016

to keeping Donald Trump out of the white house.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
65. yes, 18 days until those explicitly or implicitly rooting for a Trump victory
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:00 PM
May 2016

are forbidden from polluting this place.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
68. Thank you. This is not a place for our partisan enemies
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

Trump supporters in particular are toxic and destructive of our goals

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
54. She hasn't even testified yet.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:06 AM
May 2016

How do you know it will be bad for the campaign? Or that this judge is protecting Hillary?

You don't. But go ahead, tell us......wait....let me...... ........cool, fire away.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
9. Ordered sealed. What a joke
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:12 PM
May 2016

Yeah, we tried to keep CIA agents working against weapons of mass destruction secret too. People who are right there, putting their lives on the line, spending years to infiltrate the enemy. And they're names are made public in a political revenge plot. Thanks a lot GWB!

American Hero
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51KYl4HptEL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

American traitors


And thanks a lot to the 500 or so people who sat out the 2000 election and gave us a contested Florida recount and the entire aftermath.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
60. And ~44% of eligible voters showed up.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:22 AM
May 2016
More than one out of every two people had something better to do that day. When elections are rigged, people have to show up in overwhelming numbers so the outcome is without dispute. Vote early. Vote absentee. Take a few minutes in line to vote, if not for yourself, for others.

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2000&fips=12

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
75. Gore did not excite the people enough to get them out to vote.
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:50 PM
May 2016

I voted for the guy. But damn, he could have been more. If he was then like he is now, he probably would have done better. Whoever ran his campaign should be the one blamed.

Z

ffr

(22,665 posts)
78. Agreed.
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:45 PM
May 2016

I know he distanced himself from Clinton, probably in agreement with his campaign manager.

Oh how the world could have been a much better place than it was today, even with Lieberman as his VP. Anything would have been better than W & Cheney.

JudyM

(29,206 posts)
24. I want to know: under what "principle" of law is protecting a presidential candidate against video
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:01 PM
May 2016

clip usage of a person under oath covered?!

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
55. Don't be daft.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:09 AM
May 2016

So a million infotainment asshats don't swarm down trying to film it and make it a circus.

She hasn't testified yet, so any judgement that you are making regarding motive for the actions of the judge are premature. But please proceed govner.

JudyM

(29,206 posts)
58. You've revealed yourself as the daft one. There isn't an issue about a swarm of cameras... there is
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:15 AM
May 2016

going to be one in court vid just as there will be one transcript.

Similarly, I am not making a judgment, hello!? I am wondering about the legal basis. But please proceed with your own transparently supercilious "wisdom"...

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
59. Uhhhh, duh. She hasn't testified.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:19 AM
May 2016

Any of your "concern" is premature. Any and all of it. So please, keep whining if it blows your skirt up. Here's a novel idea, try to think of a reason that might help the Bernie campaign, then you might figure out a justification for the order.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
25. Um, that doesnt sound like an actual LEGAL reason to seal it
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:03 PM
May 2016

"Oh, it might embarrass someone" isnt a valid excuse
Oh wait, the "someone"is Hillary. She gets special rules. Nevermind

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
36. The purposes of those depositions is not to provide fodder for political ads.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:25 PM
May 2016

The transcript is enough. Judicial Watch and its allies will just need to have a sad.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
43. "She is among a half dozen current and former officials to be questioned . . . "
Fri May 27, 2016, 04:56 AM
May 2016

Naw, there's nothing to this investigation.
Just look the other way and pretend no one knew anything about anything.

Who the hell was the Secretary of State for Obama anyway, Sgt. Schultz??

"I know nuffin, nuffin!!"


Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
66. The video can't be released because it might 'embarrass' Clinton?
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:06 PM
May 2016

Was she sitting on the toilet or talking with a cucumber facial on?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
74. Facts cannot be allowed near Hillary. Don't look at her too closely, folks.
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

Let's keep her under wraps until she wins whatever it is she wants to win.

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