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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 09:59 PM May 2016

Trump tells California 'there is no drought'

Source: Associated Press

FRESNO, Calif. — Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump told California voters Friday that he can solve their water crisis, declaring, "There is no drought."

Speaking at a rally in Fresno, Calif., Trump accused state officials of denying water to Central Valley farmers so they can send it out to sea "to protect a certain kind of three-inch fish."

"We're going to solve your water problem. You have a water problem that is so insane. It is so ridiculous where they're taking the water and shoving it out to sea," Trump said to cheers at a rally that drew thousands.

Trump's rallies Friday in Fresno and San Diego drew vocal crowds of protesters, many carrying signs critical of Trump's plan to wall off the U.S. border with Mexico.


Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-tells-california-there-is-no-drought/ar-BBtz6oK?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp



How can there be a drought? You turn on the tap, and water comes out.
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Trump tells California 'there is no drought' (Original Post) TomCADem May 2016 OP
Lines like this.... retrowire May 2016 #1
I know what you mean. It's so depressing, for so many reasons, that Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #9
That was said of Bush Jr, both times. zalinda May 2016 #22
" " " " n/t MBS May 2016 #35
Right? Cosmocat May 2016 #42
If I may, it isn't the people so much as it is cadaverdog May 2016 #62
Dumbing down of schools and blaming intellectuals Ilsa May 2016 #70
I have felt this way many, many times... potone May 2016 #51
Damn those government officials anyway! saltpoint May 2016 #2
I don't think he's talking fish. mwooldri May 2016 #47
Yep. Trump is one crafty guy. saltpoint May 2016 #48
I kind of seeing it this way. airplaneman May 2016 #65
Maybe Trump is planning . . . OldRedneck May 2016 #3
I'm in the Sacramento Valley Jack Rabbit May 2016 #4
There would be plenty of water saltpoint May 2016 #5
This is a rich story indeed bucolic_frolic May 2016 #6
You overestimate the MSM. TeamPooka May 2016 #27
+ 1 Scientific May 2016 #34
lol Cosmocat May 2016 #43
all the M$M cares about is a horse race so they can sell ads rurallib May 2016 #45
yup TeamPooka May 2016 #59
Reminds me of lordsummerisle May 2016 #7
Drought is flood LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2016 #18
Ignorance is genius LiberalElite May 2016 #41
Exactly! PatSeg May 2016 #54
just Drumpfspeak for there is still a drought. olddad56 May 2016 #8
He'll just water the plants with Brawndo. Tommy_Carcetti May 2016 #10
Good one Person 2713 May 2016 #19
Camacho for Vice President! Ned Flanders May 2016 #24
The movie Idiocracy coming true, very scary. sarcasmo May 2016 #58
I am beginning to think he is Sarah Palin's long lost twin milestogo May 2016 #11
What the hell is wrong with this man?! Bayard May 2016 #12
There's no drought, it just hasn't been raining very much. hay rick May 2016 #13
Trump is seeing how much he can get away with, how far will the chumps go AZ Progressive May 2016 #14
And his followers will believe him hook line and sinker. :/ romanic May 2016 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #16
This speech went over like gang busters with conservatives. Kablooie May 2016 #32
Bet they think it is some sort of scientific government conspiracy SujiwanKenobee May 2016 #39
The folks who got all the water greymattermom May 2016 #40
That's exactly it. Kablooie May 2016 #50
Bill Maher last night Cosmocat May 2016 #44
That is how I've felt many times PatSeg May 2016 #55
Trump is a pandering asshole. SunSeeker May 2016 #17
3 inches, like his hands? n/t hibbing May 2016 #20
heh heh heh Nirgendwo May 2016 #21
Makes me want to pound my head against the wall. Trump can go pound sand. Hekate May 2016 #23
he has the fake news media behind him, he can say whatever he wants and them walk it back.. olddad56 May 2016 #25
and if it floods, he can walk on that. He was Jesus' father in another life. olddad56 May 2016 #26
President Huckster. PT Barnum would be proud. nt TeamPooka May 2016 #28
Go to a conservative website and everyone is eating it up. Kablooie May 2016 #29
how did they get so stupid? MFM008 May 2016 #31
Compartmentalized thinking, binary thinking, dogmatism, lack of critical thinking, Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #36
After this quote, I'm pretty sure I'll be removing FaceBook friends in the coming days. C Moon May 2016 #30
People would rather blame official incompetence/corruption Bad Dog May 2016 #33
This must have been the same speech where he outlined his environmental policies: Vinca May 2016 #37
He's an idiot JustAnotherGen May 2016 #38
sometimes I think he can't possibly be that stupid greymattermom May 2016 #46
He is like a three year old PatSeg May 2016 #57
I'm waiting for him to tell the Born-agains that he'll sinkingfeeling May 2016 #49
And it will be a "great highway" PatSeg May 2016 #56
It was 1900 and city authorities in Galveston saltpoint May 2016 #52
thank you for that link. somehow had missed that book. niyad May 2016 #61
Hi, niyad. It is a book that was saltpoint May 2016 #66
I always thought that galveston was one of those places that just should not have been built. niyad May 2016 #67
Yep -- a case could be made. Hurricanes must wobble saltpoint May 2016 #68
I thnk you have that absolutely correct. niyad May 2016 #69
We laugh at Trump, but tens of millions think like him NickB79 May 2016 #53
So he thinks he's god now. tabasco May 2016 #60
The truth is moondust May 2016 #63
It's like saying climate change doesn't exist... Beartracks May 2016 #64

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
1. Lines like this....
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:02 PM
May 2016

"Trump accused state officials of denying water to Central Valley farmers so they can send it out to sea "to protect a certain kind of three-inch fish."

Make me consider suicide at the idea that people are actually.... believing this bullshit.

I want to die.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
9. I know what you mean. It's so depressing, for so many reasons, that
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

any person would for one second consider Trump qualified to be president of this country.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
42. Right?
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:44 AM
May 2016

THIS is why government is a mess here.

The stupid in this country hit a critical mass 25 years ago, and it has gotten incrementally worse every year since to this point.

Trump isn't the issue.

It is the people ...

cadaverdog

(228 posts)
62. If I may, it isn't the people so much as it is
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:22 PM
May 2016

the results of the dumbing down of our educational systems, particularly our public schools. And this is exactly the way the oligarchy wants it; a low information public that is easily moved by emotional arguments rather than reasonable conclusions based on facts.
Without going on a long harangue about the state of our public schools, let me just offer,
"It's the education, stupid."

potone

(1,701 posts)
51. I have felt this way many, many times...
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:01 AM
May 2016

for the last 36 years. Hang in there, retrowire, we need committed young people like you to save our country and the planet. I don't mean to put any pressure on you, of course, but the world hangs in the balance in this election, so get your cohort to vote!

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
48. Yep. Trump is one crafty guy.
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:26 AM
May 2016

It's been a while since we've seen such a blustering egomaniac running for office.

Even George Wallace was more refined than this.

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
65. I kind of seeing it this way.
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:37 PM
May 2016

There is only one cookie left and he is promising it to a 1000 people if he gets elected.
Then..................
Seriously I think if he is elected he could be the first failed presidency. The hell that would break loose would backlash to his demise.
-Airpalne

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
3. Maybe Trump is planning . . .
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:07 PM
May 2016

Maybe he's planning to pull a Moses . . . you know, strike a rock with his walking stick and water gushes forth.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
4. I'm in the Sacramento Valley
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

And Trump is even more of a Know-Nothing than I thought.

Hey, Donald, can I water my lawn again?

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
5. There would be plenty of water
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:08 PM
May 2016

available if Marco Rubio had not tried to drink it, spilling three-quarters of every gulp.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
6. This is a rich story indeed
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:13 PM
May 2016

Trump is declaring war on every aspect of responsible environmental policy

I don't even think the MSM will let this one slide by

Trump is delusional beyond repair

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
45. all the M$M cares about is a horse race so they can sell ads
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:54 AM
May 2016

so don't be surprised when "Trump says we are under attack by aliens" is treated as serious news by the M$M including the vaunted NPR

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
54. Exactly!
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:53 AM
May 2016

These low information voters gravitate to the most ignorant and baseless political rhetoric. It is really terrifying.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
11. I am beginning to think he is Sarah Palin's long lost twin
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:08 PM
May 2016

who was separated from her at birth.

"It is so ridiculous where they're taking the water and shoving it out to sea"

Bayard

(22,062 posts)
12. What the hell is wrong with this man?!
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:36 PM
May 2016

I lived in Calif. for 12 years, and there were drought conditions the entire time. I was up in the mountains, about 40 miles east of Fresno. Luckily, we had a good well, because many others in the area were going dry, and they were having to dig new ones at 100 feet or better. Fire is a constant worry.

Trump wouldn't recognize climate change if it bit him in the ass. Those severe weather conditions in CA, along with the huge industrial farms like Boswell sucking every puddle dry, is the problem. Boswell drained the entire Tulare Lake a number of years ago, and no one did anything about it. Before he died, Mr. Boswell owned the largest private farm in America. Google it. http://www.kpbs.org/news/2009/jun/25/king-californias-central-valley/ is a good place to start.

No clue what Trump's talking about with some 3" fish. Doesn't sound like he does either. As far as people cheering him in Fresno, Central Calif. is a whole different animal than L.A. or the Bay. All I can say is that I ran into more pockets of red-necks there--some vicious--than I've ever seen in Kentucky. Glad to be home.

hay rick

(7,608 posts)
13. There's no drought, it just hasn't been raining very much.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:45 PM
May 2016

I'm not growing a beard, I just stopped shaving.

Repulsive.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
14. Trump is seeing how much he can get away with, how far will the chumps go
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:56 PM
May 2016

Or maybe Trump has been body snatched and is really doing all he can to ruin America?

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Kablooie

(18,631 posts)
32. This speech went over like gang busters with conservatives.
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:22 AM
May 2016

Read right wing comments. They are all cheering his speech as being precisely correct. They think its just what no one else has had the guts to say.
If he's trying to lose he's doing a bad job of it.

SujiwanKenobee

(290 posts)
39. Bet they think it is some sort of scientific government conspiracy
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:15 AM
May 2016

The government bugaboo is withholding water and chasing away rain clouds so it can take their land and send water to Liberal bastions.

Kablooie

(18,631 posts)
50. That's exactly it.
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

They talked about how liberals are trying to drive all the farmers out of California so the land can be given to environmentalists. They actually believe this.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
44. Bill Maher last night
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:53 AM
May 2016

had the cartoonist who does Dilbert on.

What he said was VERY sobering.

He is a trained hypnotist, and he said last summer Trump was going to in the general election in a landslide because what he is doing is textbook.

Basically people are truly irrational people, and that what trump does totally keys into it. Facts and reality don't matter, the more outlandish shit he says, the more it resonates.

This thing where he puts a word or two on people is masterful on his part.

He even said during a recent speech he did an AB test on audience with Hillary, kept saying, "which is better, crooked hillary or heartless hillary."

Kept working them back and forth to see which got the strongest reaction, and it was Crooked and he has stuck with it since.

He has been a high level huckster for decades, a master at separating people from their money.

Same process separating people from their vote.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
55. That is how I've felt many times
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

It is like he is having fun putting out the most outrageous things and watching people cheer him on. Meanwhile however, I think he started to like the idea of winning. Someone with an ego that big can't let go of the prize.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
17. Trump is a pandering asshole.
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:08 AM
May 2016

He is just saying what Central Valley farmers, who have been denied their full water allotments, want to hear. Reality be damned.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
25. he has the fake news media behind him, he can say whatever he wants and them walk it back..
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:26 AM
May 2016

when he wants to. If there was no fake news media like Fox, there would be no Donald Trump.

Kablooie

(18,631 posts)
29. Go to a conservative website and everyone is eating it up.
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:04 AM
May 2016

They swallowed it hook, crook and stinker.
I didn't read a single sceptical comment.

It seems he was advised by some California conservatives that gave him these "facts"

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
36. Compartmentalized thinking, binary thinking, dogmatism, lack of critical thinking,
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:33 AM
May 2016

Some of a dozen attitudes held by Right Wing Authoritarian followers (aka Hair DrumpFührer supporters).

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
30. After this quote, I'm pretty sure I'll be removing FaceBook friends in the coming days.
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:10 AM
May 2016

They'll be quoting him on this.
Insanity.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
33. People would rather blame official incompetence/corruption
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:02 AM
May 2016

than face ugly truths. It confirms a lot of people's prejudices and means they won't have to change their lifestyles at all.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
37. This must have been the same speech where he outlined his environmental policies:
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:46 AM
May 2016

"I want clean water. I want clean air." Phew! And I thought he was running on a dirty water, dirty air platform.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
46. sometimes I think he can't possibly be that stupid
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:18 AM
May 2016

What is the real agenda? He's playing a reality TV character, right?

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
57. He is like a three year old
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:03 PM
May 2016

He will do anything for attention. He is addicted to it. He is playing a very dangerous game.

sinkingfeeling

(51,448 posts)
49. I'm waiting for him to tell the Born-agains that he'll
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:42 AM
May 2016

build a highway to heaven. They'll eat it up. Same people that claimed Harry Potter was satanic for using magic.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
52. It was 1900 and city authorities in Galveston
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:13 AM
May 2016

told people the coming storm was a chance to play in the surf.

Bring the kids! Pack a picnic! It will be a splendid day at the beach!

The Cubans tried to warn us that this storm was extremely dangerous. But the city authorities in Galveston weren't going to let a few nutty Cubans spoil a picnic day, nosirreebob.

Turns out, though, they should have listened to the Cubans.

https://www.nytimes.com/books/99/09/12/reviews/990912.12bolstet.html

_________

Mr. Trump doesn't want his supporters to pay attention to the climatologists. They might do well to ignore his advice.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
66. Hi, niyad. It is a book that was
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:37 PM
May 2016

recommended to me, and I balked at first, then decided why not, and just jumped in.

I couldn't be reached for two or three days because I was just buried in that account of that hurricane.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
68. Yep -- a case could be made. Hurricanes must wobble
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:00 PM
May 2016

over to the Gulf, take one look at that Texas coast and say to themselves, "Now watch this."

Such a history of powerful storms, many with very sad outcomes.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
53. We laugh at Trump, but tens of millions think like him
Sat May 28, 2016, 11:16 AM
May 2016

And they still have enough clout that, after 50 years of science and evidence so obvious even a child can see, we're still twiddling our thumbs while the planet enters the largest mass extinction event in 65 million years.

And even those of us who recognize global warming aren't doing nearly enough to even slow it down at this point. CO2 emissions in the atmosphere are actually rising FASTER today than they were 20 years ago.

This folks, is why we aren't going to "solve" the problem of global warming. It's going to steam-roll us while we're too busy blaming each other for the hell we've unleashed upon ourselves.

moondust

(19,977 posts)
63. The truth is
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:57 PM
May 2016

whatever you want to believe.

The single most consequential thing to be learned from Fox and Limbaugh, and largely responsible for the rise of the pathological liar.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
64. It's like saying climate change doesn't exist...
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:17 PM
May 2016

... because snow fell in D.C. during a winter month.






Arrogant ignorance = The Republican Brand.


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