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Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:06 AM May 2016

P-47 Thunderbolt Retrieved After Fatal Plane Crash On Hudson River

Source: CBSNewYork/AP

Divers with the New York Police Department and the Army Corps of Engineers have salvaged a vintager P-47 Thunderbolt after the plane crashed into the Hudson River Friday night.

Crews began the salvage operation of the P-47 Thunderbolt at around 10:30 a.m., WCBS 880’s Stephanie Colombini reported. It will be taken to a heliport in Manhattan.

“The NYPD had divers that were down there to secure the plane. We loaded it on to a ship that was provided by the Army Core of Engineers,” Nancy Silvestri, press secretary for the city’s Office of Emergency Management, said. The ship had a crane on top of it. The crane lifted the plane.”

The Coast Guard confirmed to 1010 WINS Friday night that a plane went down in the river, reportedly on the West New York, New Jersey side across from the 79th Street Boat Basin. Officials were notified around 7:30 p.m.

FULL story and video at link.


(Credit: NYPD)

Read more: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/05/28/hudson-river-plane-crash-id/

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P-47 Thunderbolt Retrieved After Fatal Plane Crash On Hudson River (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2016 OP
I've flown up the Hudson river Major Nikon May 2016 #1
One news organization called it a "small WW2 plane." Archae May 2016 #2
Well, compared to a B-29... Gene Debs May 2016 #3
Never new we had rotary engines in WWII Jnclr89 May 2016 #4
They were actually radial engines, not rotary engines Major Nikon May 2016 #7
Cooling was an issue in WWI. Jerry442 May 2016 #8
Since a kid, it was one of me favorite WWII planes. rusty quoin May 2016 #5
Have you seen the animated film, "The Wind Rises"? Jerry442 May 2016 #9
Same here.... paleotn May 2016 #12
Army "core"of engineers flying rabbit May 2016 #6
I hear you. paleotn May 2016 #10
Poor editing. malthaussen May 2016 #13
Is it in one piece? sans landing gear? was this a controlled landing on river, then it sank? Sunlei May 2016 #11
Pilot drowned according to reports. trof May 2016 #14

Archae

(46,314 posts)
2. One news organization called it a "small WW2 plane."
Sun May 29, 2016, 12:27 AM
May 2016

I've stood next to "Jugs" and they sure as hell were not "small!"

2,000HP rotary engine and EIGHT .50's in the wings!

Sure did ruin many a Japanese or German's day!

 

Jnclr89

(128 posts)
4. Never new we had rotary engines in WWII
Sun May 29, 2016, 02:58 AM
May 2016

but I thought the Japanese invented the rotary engine? Just curious? I never new American war planes in WWII had them. Learn something new every day. Sad to hear about the pilot. RIP.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
7. They were actually radial engines, not rotary engines
Sun May 29, 2016, 04:42 AM
May 2016

They look similar, but rotary engines were the type used in WWI.



Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
8. Cooling was an issue in WWI.
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:50 AM
May 2016

Apparently casting technology at the time was unable to produce cooling fins thin and closely spaced enough to get the job done so they cooled the engines by holding the crankshaft stationary and rotating the the whole engine at high speed. (!) It did work, but the whole plane would have been a flying gyroscope.

Better casting technology led to adequate cooling fins which allowed the use of radial (but not rotary) engines with stationary cylinders until they were replaced by jets.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
5. Since a kid, it was one of me favorite WWII planes.
Sun May 29, 2016, 03:26 AM
May 2016

I love prop planes.. I made the models of them. The Thunderbolt was a warhorse. It wasn't the best, but it was a flying tank. The thig I like about Americans then was protecting their flyers.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
9. Have you seen the animated film, "The Wind Rises"?
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:00 AM
May 2016

It's about the designer of the Mitsubishi A6M Zero. I have really mixed feelings about the movie, since the A6M was designed with essentially no protection for the pilot. You can say that the design of an aircraft involves the inherent beauty of flight and aerodynamics, but making the A6M as fast and maneuverable as possible by leaving the pilot essentially naked was a straight-up military decision and not a particularly pretty one. (Historians can argue over whether it was the best decision.)

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
12. Same here....
Sun May 29, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

The P-40, P-51, P-38, Spit, FW-190 etc., etc. are some of the most beautiful aircraft ever conceived and the ultimate in prop technology. I've loved them since I was a kid and never miss a chance to see them in action.

malthaussen

(17,184 posts)
13. Poor editing.
Sun May 29, 2016, 09:04 AM
May 2016

The release plainly says "Corps" before the quote. No indication that the quote is a printed release (and "said" implies otherwise). Ah, well, proofreaders cost money.

-- Mal

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. Is it in one piece? sans landing gear? was this a controlled landing on river, then it sank?
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:48 AM
May 2016

Early report said pilot was outside the plane before it went under ? RIP pilot.

trof

(54,256 posts)
14. Pilot drowned according to reports.
Sun May 29, 2016, 09:13 AM
May 2016

It appeared to be a controlled ditching.
Evidently he couldn't get the seat belt/shoulder harness unlatched quick enough.
Very sad.

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