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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:13 PM May 2016

Oklahoma Republican wishes Mexican border was more like Afghanistan: ‘We were allowed to shoot ’em’

Source: Raw Story

Oklahoma Republican wishes Mexican border was more like Afghanistan: ‘We were allowed to shoot ’em’
Travis Gettys
31 May 2016 at 12:33 ET



A Republican congressional challenger compared his combat tour in Afghanistan to the U.S.-Mexico border, but with more shooting.

Jarrin Jackson, a 30-year-old U.S. Army veteran who is challenging incumbent Rep. Markwayne Mullin in the GOP primary, spoke to conservative radio host Steve Deace about his tours of duty in Afghanistan, reported Right Wing Watch.

“The first go-around, I was a platoon leader just a few miles away from the Pakistan border,” Jackson said, “and really, what we were doing was shore up a porous border kind of like, imagine our southern border, except for we were allowed to shoot ‘em.”

Jackson, a West Point graduate who rose to the rank of captain, has blamed “Washington bureaucrats” and lawmakers like his opponent in the 2nd Congressional race for the failure to end terrorism.


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/oklahoma-republican-wishes-mexican-border-was-more-like-afghanistan-we-were-allowed-to-shoot-em/

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tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. Figgin' moron. The odd thing is, nobody has asked all of those very wealthy farmers about immigrants
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:16 PM
May 2016

Who will work for them when that wall goes up?

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
2. And People Wonder Why The Twin Towers Aren't Still Standing.....
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:41 PM
May 2016

Kill em all, let God sort em out right?

Dumbass.

Typical Republican.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
4. Do to his actions, the Taliban are just a distant memory, Right?
Tue May 31, 2016, 05:18 PM
May 2016

It his actions like he did that recruited more troops for the Taliban. In a situation like Afghanistan, you need a plan for occupation that included hoe the country should be run after you take it over. When the Soviet Union took over Afghanistan in 1979, they had such a plan, and the opposition did all they could to undermine that plan (and US aid assisted in that plan to undermine that plan).

When the US went into Afghanistan, the US had no long term plan on what to do with Afghanistan, and in many ways still has no such plan. Unlike the situation in the 1970s and the Soviet intervention where the Soviet could NEVER secure the border, the US has no serious problems with border infiltration, but the US also had no long term plan (Which should have included schools, roads, electrification etc, all of which costs money, and it is best if done with local labor, thus getting the locals to look at you as a source of revenue). This lack of planning, gave the Taliban the time to dig in its heels and show that they were the only people to oppose this occupation by a foreign government. Once that window of opportunity was lost, it was lost for ever.

To defeat guerrilla activities is to separate the Guerrillas from the people, by giving the people what they want, even if it is things you oppose. If Islamic law is what the people of Afghanistan wants, and you have better be able to give it to them. If the people of Afghanistan wants traditional Pushtu law, you have better be willing to give it to them (even if that means NOT educating women). You have to separate the people from the rebels by giving the people what they want, so they see no need to support the rebels. The US has refused to do that, and is the main reason the US is losing (and it was one of the reasons the Soviet Union lost, they plan did not include Islam or Pushtu law, and given both are what hold the people of Afghanistan together as a people, by denying both you ended up strengthening the support the people of Afghanistan had for the opposition).

In a guerrilla war, you can NOT end such a war with violence, you end it with cutting out the support such guerrillas have among the people. Once that support is destroyed, such wars then die out for lack of food, ammunition and recruits. You give the people what they want and you defeat such rebels, refused to do that and you end up either fighting a war for years (and sometimes decades) or losing the war.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
5. I think the Army should review.......
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:13 PM
May 2016

Jackson's stay in Afghanistan. I'm not sure he was allowed to "shoot" at the Pakistan border. I think there had to be some kind of engagement by Afghans or Pakistanis.

Also I had a dear friend who was a West Point Graduate. Though he was a political conservative, I never heard these types of comments from him.

Jackson is a disgrace to the uniform he wore.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
6. keep in mind that when you are allowed to shoot them, they are allowed to shot back..
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:19 PM
May 2016

and kill your kids and rape your wife. War isn't all the movies make it out to be.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
8. Very interesting thing I found out............
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:40 PM
May 2016

I check Jackson's page(s) on the web. He cites in his Bio page that he is the recipient of 2 Bronze Stars from his time in Afghanistan, however when I tried to verify that fact(?), I can't find him listed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Recipients_of_the_Bronze_Star_Medal?from=Ja

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
9. THAT'S interesting! He doesn't talk the way you'd expect a hero to speak.
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:20 PM
May 2016

He sounds like a slithery, slimy coward who loves to bloviate to people who don't know any better.

Thank you for going a step beyond to verify and finding out what you did.

Really figures, doesn't it?

There's quite a few like him around, unfortunately.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
10. Any time I see/hear someone............
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:31 PM
May 2016

documenting themselves as a Military Academy Grad or a medal recipient, I have questions. He also states in his Bio that he volunteered for the military right out of high school. I've asked him the question on his facebook page, as to whether he was an enlistee who ultimately received an appointment to West Point, or did he immediately go to West Point.

I want the question answered, because it will help me verify his claims further. Also there are pictures of him in uniform, but I can't see any rank.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
13. The really horrible thing is... he is probably saner and better than the Rep he is running against
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 05:11 AM
Jun 2016

Mark Wayne Mullin is a real creep/tea party jerk.

maxrandb

(15,295 posts)
14. "Rose to the rank of Captain"
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:39 AM
Jun 2016

is like saying a 2-year old "rose to the rank of Walking Upright"

Making "Captain" (O3) in the Army is like making SEAMAN (E3) in the Navy. If you have a pulse, you're making O3...hell, if you have a pulse and you haven't injured anyone, or gotten a DUI...you'll make O4.

"Rose to the rank of?...." what horseshit. Like doing enough time to automatically be promoted to O3 is some kind of fucking rare achievement.

God I hate the fucking fact that only 1% of our population has served in the military. If this reporter had served they would have known that finding an O3 in the Army is about as "rare" as finding an Admiral drinking coffee in the Pentagon.

Jeeesh!

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