Sanders: DNC vetoed union leader pick for platform committee

[Mark 750]

Source: Washington Post

SPRECKELS, Calif. — When the Democratic National Committee announced that Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont would get to pick five of the 15 people who'll write the party platform, it was seen as a small coup. But at a news conference today, Sanders revealed that the DNC had actually vetoed his nomination of a key labor ally, and said he was told not to pick anyone else from the labor movement.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/01/sanders-dnc-vetoed-union-leader-pick-for-platform-committee/

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Speaks for itself.

[JonLeibowitz]

1. In my other OP, still no Clinton supporters apologizing for their smears of Bernie as sexist

I'm still waiting....




See: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512103998

[MFM008]

77. I don't think he's a sexist

What turned me off is simple. He's to old . Don't squeal ageism. I'm almost 60 myself. Besides his nuking us with debt. Pretty simple.

[Gene Debs]

2. So they let him pick five, as long as they get to pick his choices.

[OwlinAZ]

42. Does this surprise anyone?

[harun]

86. Lol, no it doesn't.

[azurnoir]

3. so they reject a union leader but not Cornell West - interesting

and a glimpse of what the DNC has in mind too

[Plucketeer]

47. I predict a shortage

of comfortable, picket line walking shoes.

[wallyworld2]

62. You are

So correct.

This is just a preview of policy that Hillary will endorse.

Comfortable walking shoes and all

[azurnoir]

72. This is all about appearances Hillary's labor pick was allowed to stay

but Bernie's was rejected, why is this - it allows Hillary to appear the sane , generous, caring leader we need and by allowing Bernie to keep Cornel West but not Ms DeMoro he is cast as the subversive, possibly racist, crackpot outsider whom the DNC in it's ginormus generosity allows a voice anyway

[TBF]

99. ^ This. Plus 1000. nt

[katsy]

4. So will they encourage labor to vote republican?

Since when has labor not had a seat at the Democratic Party table?

Wtf is wrong with this picture?

[Mark 750]

11. Nixon had labor for the part of the Vietnam war.

didn't they march in NY city one year?

[katsy]

14. I didn't know that.

But very interesting.

I suppose if trump pivoted left of HRC on labor issues (all bullshit from his lying mouth) he could garner some labor support or at the very least a small percentage of disaffected workers.

Why the dnc would exclude a labor leader is beyond me.

[bvar22]

100. LABOR hasn't had a seat at the Democratic Party table

since 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected with Koch Brothers money.

Koch Industries gave funding to the DLC and served on its Executive Council
http://americablog.com/2010/08/koch-industries-gave-funding-to-the-dlc-and-served-on-its-executive-council.html

How the Koch brothers helped dismantle the Democratic Party
https://samsmitharchives.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/6467/

[libdem4life]

5. And old Midwest saying just keeps coming to me...

All Hat, no Cattle.

That would be the neo-third wayers. The traditional bulwark of the Democratic Party doesn't have enough money to have their views and interests spoken for.

[Harriety]

6. That stinks!

[warrprayer]

7. What else would you expect?

The working class and the poor have been effectively excluded from the political process.

Kabuki theatre is what remains.

[Equinox Moon]

8. No Labor?

I thought that the working people were part of the focus for Democrats. In Minnesota the party is called DFL - Democrat Farmer Labor.

Here is a link to Bernie's Awesome-Five! pick for the DNC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280204247

[Cassiopeia]

9. They still are a strong focus.

That focus has just been corrupted into thinking of ways to get more labor at lower costs.

[dorkzilla]

12. DWS and payday loans

it really says as much as any of us need to know about "our" party.

[awoke_in_2003]

84. They want labor to donate money and vote

other than that, they can piss off as far as the party cares.

[jomin41]

10. "he was told not to pick anyone else from the labor movement."

WOW. Just fucking WOW. They keep making new candidates for a coalition third party.

[redwitch]

16. Yes they do.

This stinks to high heaven.

[Jitter65]

43. There is union representation on the platform committee. nt

[zentrum]

13. Gee unions, do ya...

…think you endorsed the wrong candidate?

[msongs]

15. labor rep on the committee - Paul Booth of AFSCME. it is false to claim no labor rep on committee n

[SusanCalvin]

19. Was he a Bernie pick? nt

[ornotna]

21. That may be

Last edited Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:26 PM - Edit history (1)

But the OP does not claim that there is not a labor rep on the committee.

[ebayfool]

36. One labor rep. For government employees only.

American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees union. Sanders did not claim no labor reps. He said his pick was rejected.

[LiberalFighter]

20. 1 person out of 15 is 8 percent of the committee.

6 percent of the unpledged delegates are labor members or connected with labor unions.

[AntiBank]

37. bad math, 1 out of 15 is 6.67%

[LiberalFighter]

39. It should be reverse.

[Gman]

22. The leadership of Labor and only the leadership of Labor

decides who from Labor is on these committees. Bravo! to the DNC.

Sanders actually attempted to undermine Labor. Screw him.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

23. She is leadership.

Try and keep up.

[Gman]

26. No, unless Labor put her there,

She's just another local officer. Keep up? You should learn how these things work. Apparently Ssnders tried to undermine and go around Labor. And this lady is only a step above a scab for putting herself in that position.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

30. Labor isn't a monolith.

Her union endorsed Sanders, and wanted her there. You keep using the phrase "labor" as if it's a single entity. Again, You have no clue what you're talking about, stop before you embarrass yourself more.

[Gman]

33. Are they even in the AFL-CIO?

They are the folks who say who from Labor is or is not on committees. Not Sanders. That's the way it is.

You have heard of the AFL-CIO I hope.

[dflprincess]

45. According to their website

http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/pages/19

About National Nurses United

National Nurses United, with close to 185,000 members in every state, is the largest union and professional association of registered nurses in U.S. history.

NNU was founded in 2009 unifying three of the most active, progressive organizations in the U.S.—and the major voices of unionized nurses—in the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee, United American Nurses, and Massachusetts Nurses Association.

I don't see any mention of the AFL-CIO and I don't see why that matters. It was probably the claim that they "unified 3 of the most active, progressive" organizations that scared the DNC. Especially the "progressive" part.

[billhicks76]

74. Hillary On Video

Years ago laughing as members of Wall Marts board called Unions scum.

[puffy socks]

80. can you post the link to the video?

[LanternWaste]

83. I'd allege that too were my candidate trailing in second, like you, I'd offer no evidence

I'd allege that too were my candidate trailing in second. And just like you, I'd offer no evidence-- we simply hope people believe us... regardless of how truthful we may or may not be.

It's rather typical of us, no?

[Fuddnik]

76. Not all unions are AFL-CIO.

My union was in-out of the AFL-CIO several times in the '70s-90s. We were the largest Rail Union in the country, but a lot of AFL-CIO policies were detrimental to us.

Things like environmentally devastating coal slurries (pipelines) would have buried the rail industry, but would have been a temporary boom for the construction unions.

Here's the problem. We know how things work, and we're sick of business as usual bullshit. That's why we support Bernie.

[Enthusiast]

78. Plus won!

[SunSeeker]

65. DeMoro and her Nader Nurses don't represent labor, or even Democrats.

http://m.sfgate.com/politics/article/Nurses-Endorse-Nader-for-President-Stands-on-2771662.php

[SunSeeker]

56. Exactly. RoseAnn DeMoro and the Nader Nurses don't speak for labor...or even Democrats.

http://m.sfgate.com/politics/article/Nurses-Endorse-Nader-for-President-Stands-on-2771662.php

[blackspade]

24. I'm shocked and chagrined....

Not.

[scottie55]

25. Screw Labor

We have corporations to milk for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!

[LibDemAlways]

27. Giving Bernie the authority to choose five

members of a 15 person committee and then vetoing one of his choices is bullshit. You can be 100% certain he has no say whatsoever over Clinton's picks. Just another example of how the DNC is determined to screw him over.

[LS_Editor]

28. Shocking.

The Democratic Party doesn't give a shit about labor. Or the poor. Or the sick.

More deals with Republican coming our way that undercut the weakest, most vulnerable people in our society.

And the party still doesn't get that is exactly why it needs Sanders.

[EdwardBernays]

29. What a sham

This is just pathetic

[LiberalFighter]

31. Between a labor union that represents more of a slice of the labor movement vs.

a specific segment I would pick the first. AFSCME represents that segment.

[hay rick]

32. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

You can take Hillary out of Walmart's board room but you can't take the Walmart out of Hillary.

[Politicub]

35. Boo freaking hoo

I don't believe a word that comes out of Sanders' mouth.

[ebayfool]

38. Didja read the link? No? DNC confirmed what he said.

snip/

In an interview Wednesday, DNC platform committee spokeswoman Dana Vickers Shelley confirmed that the DNC had not wanted labor leaders on the platform drafting committee, limiting labor's presence to Paul Booth of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees union.


"Boo freaking hoo." However do you come up with such substantive posts? We is impressed! Especially when you don't bother to read what you are commenting on! Wow!

[ornotna]

40. Well

So much for

"learn new things and debate the issues".

Might want to update that About Me in your profile.

[BillZBubb]

52. But you believe every word from habitual liar Ms. Golden Sacks!

[PoliticalMalcontent]

41. The more things change, the more things stay the same.

[alarimer]

44. This is the party we are supposed to support or else?

Fuck that shit.

Do you people who put party above principle get it NOW? Do you?

No wonder so many people are independent. The Democratic Party is a fucking joke. I AM DONE.

[Jitter65]

46. Labor is represented on the Platform Committee.

Paul Booth is a member of the Platform committee. He is the executive assistant to the President at AFSCME. Which in the hierarchy is high. That makes him one of 15 on the Platform committee. OR 6.6% of the committee.

[Tom Rinaldo]

49. Once upon a time there was a term "token representation"

I remember it well. Token representatives rarely were assigned high level leadership posts, more like the VP for Minority Recruitment. Labor representation was CAPPED AT ONE here - with none allowed at the level the equivalent of the steering or executive committee. This was conscious DC policy, a literal quota of ONE token labor representative.

[jalan48]

48. I'm not sure Goldman Sachs is a big supporter of labor unions.

I mean, the Wall Street rising tide is lifting all boats, right?

[EndElectoral]

50. This lady was eliminated. RoseAnn DeMoro, executive director of National Nurses United

Not sure why? DNC got something against nurses?

[raindaddy]

51. WTF? The Democratic Party is actually denying the voice of labor in their platform....

No longer the party of working-class Americans. The current aberration of the Democratic party is the party billionaires and their lobbyists not labor.

[BillZBubb]

53. Welcome to the Third Way!

[Dont call me Shirley]

54. Sanders was ordered not to pick anyone fom the Labor Movement. That means the Labor

Movement is no longer a part of the DNC platform. All labor unions should renounce their support for hrc immediately since she is the dnc's endorsement.

[SunSeeker]

55. Sanders' pick was RoseAnn DeMoro, who heads a nurse group super pac supporting Sanders.

http://time.com/4233514/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-nurse-superpac/


How is it even legal for Sanders to be working with her?

[slipslidingaway]

58. Yesterday I read that Time was a right wing publication, the nurses are fighting for HC for all ...

not just the privileged.

Sorry but the Dems say they are for a HC for all system, but they just seem to continuously mess up, blame Repubs while propping up the for profit HC system?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoseAnn_DeMoro

"Biography[edit]

"Executive Director, National Nurses United
California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee

Leading the largest professional and labor organization of registered nurses in the United States — and the fastest-growing overall — RoseAnn DeMoro, executive director of National Nurses United, as well as the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee, has emerged as one of the nation's preeminent advocates for genuine healthcare reform and working people.

Under her stewardship as executive director, National Nurses United:
Formed in 2009 as the first national union of, by, and for the nation’s registered nurses and the fastest-growing U.S. union, now with 190,000 members.
Inspired the founding of the first international organization of unions of direct-care RNs and other healthcare workers from six continents, Global Nurses United.
Brought RNs across the nation together to lead the campaign to extend and improve Medicare to cover all patients and create a system of guaranteed healthcare.
Won enactment of the nation's first safe RN–to-patient ratios law in California, which has now been proposed in states across the nation.
Won many of the best collective bargaining agreements for RNs in the United States, in compensation, retirement security, and improved patient care conditions.

Featured in prominent profiles in the The New York Times,[1] Wall Street Journal,[2] Los Angeles Times,[3] San Francisco Chronicle,[4] Business Week, and the Chicago Tribune,[5] DeMoro has also appeared on a number of national and California news programs, including Bill Moyers Journal,[6] CBS' 60 Minutes,[7] PBS' Now,[8] and the Lehrer News Hour.[9]

DeMoro has been named "America's Best & Brightest"[10] by Esquire magazine, dubbed "The Most Influential Woman You've Never Heard Of" by More magazine,[11] honored as among "America's Most Influential Women" by MSN,[12] and one of only eight people to be cited among the "100 Most Powerful People in Healthcare" for the past 14 consecutive years by Modern Healthcare magazine.[13] DeMoro also serves as National Vice President and Executive Boardmember of the AFL-CIO.[14]"

[SunSeeker]

60. What in the Time article is factually incorrect?

I don't think she's even a Democrat---she and her nurse group campaigned for Ralph Nader in 2000.

[slipslidingaway]

63. You do not have to refute anything in the article, just say it is a right wing publication ..

and squash any discussion, that was the point of my post. Hope you defend Time when they publish something that is not flattering to Clinton.

[SunSeeker]

64. I am not defending Time, I am defending facts. nt

[slipslidingaway]

67. That is what Should be done in every instance, but many are quick to blame a publication ...

and instead and just dismiss the article.

The problem with dismissing certain publications from the start is that sometimes there is some truth to the article and we close our eyes to a view from another side.

[geek tragedy]

70. #bernierules nt

[jmowreader]

57. I can't respond in the way that I would like

I just find it overly convenient that the only labor leader Bernie thought highly enough to nominate for his third of the Drafting Committee is the head of his superPAC. And, most likely, so did the DNC.

[slipslidingaway]

59. Do you also find it overly convenient that the Dems have kept a for profit HC system in place for...

decades because of those nasty Repubs who seem to outfox them at every turn?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoseAnn_DeMoro

[jmowreader]

71. Tell me how Bernie gets buy-in from all of the participants in the healthcare industry

To make Bernie's plan work, several things are going to have to happen.

The healthcare providers are going to all have to become nonprofits.

The medical professionals are going to take significant cuts in pay to go along with their significant increases in workload.

Medical device, pharmaceutical and healthcare equipment manufacturers will take significant decreases in revenue.

The insurance companies are going to have to go out of business.

All the people who work at those companies - most of whom are not rich - will need to get new jobs.

The American people will have to pay at least 2x - maybe 3x - the taxes they do now to support this thing.

Everyone on Medicare and Medicaid will have to integrate into Bernie's program. Seniors DO NOT want their Medicare tampered with, even a tiny bit - and those guys vote more heavily than anyone else in America.

The people who have health insurance they like will be forced into Bernie's new system - he doesn't allow a parallel private healthcare system, which most other countries do.

AND he has to get this through Congress, the people who barely got Obamacare passed.

And we're going to have to agree to disagree on profit.

[lostnfound]

85. The idea isn't "everything gets passed". The idea is we have a voice at the table

Will Clinton's priorities be with the poor and with working people, or with The Owners?
Being effective at getting legislation passed is worthless if your secret top priorities are about satisfying your 1% constituents. On trade, on Haiti minimum wage, on the war, what's good for The Owners was the goal that was satisfied.

[jmowreader]

90. So being told no repeatedly is fine with you?

In the 1993-94 session of Congress our young, idealistic Democratic president advanced several proposals and was told no repeatedly. We got Newt Gingrich's Contract On Americal Congress the next year.

In the 2009-10 session our young, idealistic Democratic president...ah, you know. The GOP gave us a Congress that made Newtie's look like Tip O'Neal was running it.

Now you're promulgating a candidate who has ideas that are totally unachievable, or that will have very bad side effects. Minimum wage is one. It needs to go up, but if you double the wage every employer in America who can't add a surcharge to his bills to compensate for it will fire half his MW employees to compensate. (People talk about Seatac, which did a $15 wage...they only applied it to hotels and restaurants, the hotels and restaurants add a Minimum Wage Surcharge to their bills, and no one gets their first job in Seatac anymore - the hotels and restaurants hire from other communities in the Sound area. Oh...and no one opens those businesses in Seatac anymore. You go north of 154th St, which puts you in Tukwila, or south of 216th, which is Des Moines. As general policy $15 would be a disaster.)

[Doremus]

87. My husband and I pay $1K/mo for health ins and have for 10 yrs

We'd be overjoyed if we could pay higher income taxes to buy into Medicare instead.

The rest of your points are equally silly.

[slipslidingaway]

103. How do other nations make this work, these are the questions we need to be asking ...

instead of throwing up roadblocks we need to look at what is being done around the world, strengths and weaknesses, come up with a plan.

All I see are roadblocks from the Clinton campaign and Obama fell right into line on the HC issue.

Canada does not allow a parallel private HC system, how do they do it? Maybe we should research their plan, not too much to ask.

The UK system allows a parallel system, my sister calls it queue jumping, for a VERY small annual sum they can jump the line and have access to private physicians.

My daughter, an MD, voted for Sanders and a Medicare for all plan, she knows her salary might not grow as much, but she is willing to take that chance as she also is witness to the unfair HC practices of our system.

Stop saying we cannot and say instead how can we make this happen. There are two extremely different positions, one being we become a servant to the monied interests and the other we are a part of the solution.

We all need to make a choice.

[slipslidingaway]

61. There's something happening here...AFL-CIO issues page - from 2007

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1777600

I came across this page when looking back on the votes for the China Trade bill in 2000. What is interesting is how the page includes information on the China Trade bill for certain candidates and excludes vote information for other candidates. I would assume this page is compiled for the benefit of their members so why would they be selective on the voting records of the candidates? Does anyone else find this strange?

No mention of the votes that the Dem candidates cast for this bill

YES

Biden
Dodd
Edwards

Bottom line the AFL-CIO page was not entirely accurate or complete

[Peace Patriot]

66. Oh, you labor leaders who have betrayed your members,

by endorsing this Reaganite "trickle down" Walmart operative, Clinton, better get ready for some trickle down on your heads in the next union elections!

This is very bad for you. And it's going to go viral to all the workplaces of the nation that you think you control.

[SunSeeker]

68. Bernie's DeMoro betrayed all Dems when she pushed Nader and thus helped elect Dubya.

http://m.sfgate.com/politics/article/Nurses-Endorse-Nader-for-President-Stands-on-2771662.php

[azurnoir]

75. do really believe we do not remember history? SCOTUS 'elected' W

by siding with the ballot games in the state his brother was Governor of at the time

not to mention Gore threw in the towel too soon

[SunSeeker]

81. I remember. Naderites' betrayal helped make it close enough to steal. nt

[azurnoir]

82. well the Gore-Bush election was 16 years ago are you saying that the DNC is that vindictive ?

[SunSeeker]

91. The DNC did not exclude her for that. I am pointing out her betrayal, not the DNC. nt

[azurnoir]

92. so what was the DNC's reasoning ?

[SunSeeker]

93. I see you did not read the article.

You should always read the article when the OP deems only one paragraph fit to post.

As stated in the article, the reason DeMoro was rejected was because labor leadership was already represented, as the campaigns understood:

In an interview Wednesday, DNC platform committee spokeswoman Dana Vickers Shelley confirmed that the DNC had not wanted labor leaders on the platform drafting committee, limiting labor's presence to Paul Booth of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees union.

“Because union leadership was represented on the full platform committee, a decision was made no union leadership would be represented on the platform drafting committee,” said Vickers Shelley. “That was communicated to the campaigns, and they understood our rationale.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/01/sanders-dnc-vetoed-union-leader-pick-for-platform-committee/

As usual, Sanders wants to change the rules after agreeing to them.

[azurnoir]

94. so the DNC doesn't want labor over represented?

[SunSeeker]

95. The DNC does want labor represented and already HAS labor represented.

Did you not read the excerpt I provided from the article?

[azurnoir]

96. so no room at the DNC table for 2 Labor reps I take it

2 is too many? The Democratic party in my state is DFL-Democratic Farmer Labor

[SunSeeker]

97. It is a small drafting group, I assume they want a broad variety of sectors represented..

Sanders knew the rules.

[azurnoir]

98. ummmhmmm well seeing as how the Democratic party touts it's union support so much I find it strange

that they'd take such a stand

[clg311]

69. Ronald Reagan must be laughing his ass off in hell.

Both parties now hate working people. "I won!"

[billhicks76]

73. Whoa...Revolution Is Coming

It won't matter if it's Hillary or Trump. And all their militarized police might refuse to participate in quelling or culling the masses.

[disillusioned73]

79. K&R..

Party before principle is the new norm... politics is officially just a spectator sport - yay team!!

[shanti]

88. the right wing

has been pushing the anti-union/anti pension blather for many years now, and given that hillary is really "with them" and not us, it makes sense for her not to include much in the way of union voices for the committee. she makes me want to

[Kermitt Gribble]

89. Sadly,

the "New Democrat" Party is not friendly to Labor like the old Democratic Party was.

[highprincipleswork]

101. Don't need no Bernie Supporters. Don't need no Labor. Lobbyists, Republican Donors, they're OK.

[JesterCS]

102. Dafuq? They veto someone who

Represents working class Americas...... speaks volumes