President Barack Obama Backs Expanding Social Security
Source: Huffington Post
By Daniel Marans & Arthur Delaney
WASHINGTON Marking a stark reversal from his past position, President Barack Obama said Wednesday the U.S. ought to increase Social Security retirement benefits.
Its time we finally made Social Security more generous and increased its benefits so that todays retirees and future generations get the dignified retirement that theyve earned, Obama said during a speech in Elkhart, Indiana.
And we can start paying for it by asking the wealthiest Americans to contribute a little bit more, Obama said. They can afford it. I can afford it.
The announcement represents a major evolution in the presidents public position on Social Security and a coup for the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, which increasingly views benefits expansion as a core element of its agenda.
FULL story at link.
BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/GETTY IMAGES
President Barack Obama came out in support of expanding Social Security benefits in a speech in Elkhart, Indiana on Wednesday, June 1, 2016.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/barack-obama-expand-social-security_us_574f55bfe4b0eb20fa0cb690
Link at the bottom of the letter: http://retiredamericans.org/ & http://retiredamericans.org/?s=expand+social+security


LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)cstanleytech
(27,481 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)first term when he had a Democratic Congress. Lost opportunity.
cstanleytech
(27,481 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)or put it on the bargaining table.
Hindsight is realizing something only after the fact. Obama has been criticized for his stand on "entitlements" all along--at least since his January 2009 interview with WAPO, when he promised to cut "entitlements." The only one showing hindsight here is Obama. His critics on "entitlements" have been consistent all along.
Unfortunately, before this belated epiphany, or legacy-seeking, or attempt to help Hillary, or whatever his motives are:
1. Obama rang some bells that cannot be unrung, including that a popular Democratic President advocated for cuts to "entitlements" and, indeed, has cut some more than once. (Of course, his fellow New Democrat POTUS bragged about having ended "welfare as we know it.);
2. Democrats proved (again) that Democrats will allow a Democratic President to get away with almost anything, including, but not limited to, talking about cuts to "entitlements" and chaining CPI, cutting fuel subsidies to the poor and multiple cuts to SNAP; and
3. Republicans gained control of both Houses, so nothing can be accomplished.
In general, I have noticed that Democrats talk a much tougher and more liberal game when Republicans are in control and Democrats know full well that what they are advocating has not a prayer in hell of getting done; and Republicans also talk tougher when Democrats in control. It's all part of Washington D.C. Kabuki 101. And both constituencies are either blind to it or ignore it to their detriment because LOTE.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)brooklynboy49
(287 posts)Well said, merrily.
dragonfly301
(399 posts)florida08
(4,106 posts)absolutely. They are forgetting who brought them to the party
Bohunk68
(1,376 posts)canoeist52
(2,282 posts)Sounds seriously tough, but no real power to get anything worthwhile accomplished.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)To be honest with you all.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I also think that the meeting between Sanders and Obama- was Obama encouraging Sanders to stay in the race no matter what.
Clinton screwed Obama royally over what happened in Syria and Libya and I think he's pissed and that Hillary Clinton is absolutely no friend of his.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Obama a smart man and if I can see that the clintons are con/frauds then I know he can too.
Bernie will be our next President
liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)AND there should be at least a minimum amount one can collect, that constitutes enough on which to live.
And what she (or he) said, where has this guy been for eight years?
madokie
(51,076 posts)I suspect you won't. If Obama wants to kill a program all he has to do is be for it. Case in point, the SS fiasco the republiCONs were trying to crawm down our throats a few years ago until Obama said he was for it too. It died on the vine as if he'd sprayed roundup on it.
kcjohn1
(751 posts)guillaumeb
(42,649 posts)Another reason for Sanders to keep on campaigning.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)PatrickforO
(15,182 posts)who are now talking about these issues at their kitchen tables. I'm proud to say my family is part of those millions, and we ARE talking about these think both among ourselves and to our friends.
BECAUSE THINGS NEED TO CHANGE, and Obama is quite smart enough to read the writing on the wall.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)What we have been doing ever since he entered the race is tell TPTB that we are not satisfied and that we want change. When President Obama was running I do not remember talking about what kind of change we wanted. This time we are saying it loud and clear.
msongs
(70,843 posts)CountAllVotes
(21,482 posts)Many living in poverty. And now lets do something being the term is almost up for the President = why now indeed?
Better late than never?
Who the hell knows is going on.
Bohunk68
(1,376 posts)I have $734/mo, which is $8808/yr. The Poverty level for one is: roughy $13,000. I have been going through the VA to get my pension increased to at least the poverty line, which I am entitled to as a veteran. Started that particular process last December. Have gotten two letters telling me they are reviewing it. My VA rep tells me it may well take a year or more. However, IF I get it, it will start from the time of filing and I will receive a lump sum backdated.
CountAllVotes
(21,482 posts)He gets less than $500.00/month. I didn't know the VA could help. He was drafted into the tail end of the Korean War in 1959 and was shipped off to Germany not long after that. No one ever said a word about helping him.
The VA was trying to get him to say he was totally disabled but he didn't care to go that route (long story as to why). In any event, that is it for him, less that $500.00 a month is all he gets and add it what I get, you have two people living on less than $1500/month.
And yes, it is not easy and yes, there are some pricey medications needed like Lumigan, a glaucoma medication that big pharma keeps trying to get changed to something cheaper but the eye doctor has clearly said no damn way in hell!
Never knew about this in any event. Thank you. Poverty sucks!
Bohunk68
(1,376 posts)for a pension from the VA. There was a law passed that essentially says that if a veteran is below the poverty line and can prove it, then said veteran is entitled to a pension supplement to bring that veteran to at least the poverty level. Go see your VA rep. I am lucky in that mine is a member of my congregation and she has been guiding me through this.
CountAllVotes
(21,482 posts)He had no idea (of course).
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Wait... Pretty sure Obama is President.
Thanking Bernie or Hillary seems kinda silly.
Thanks, President Obama!
2015 Was The Year President Obama Gave Zero F**ks
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027873866
scscholar
(2,902 posts)She has helped the people.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)...nobody knows you're not a Ph. D. Actually, that's not true.
840high
(17,196 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)You should see how she's helped people. Especially the people of Libya and Syria. But that's Hilary, she's all about people.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)From the very first debate... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/14/us/politics/democratic-debate-transcript.html
CLINTON: Well, I fully support Social Security. And the most important fight were going to have is defending it against continuing Republican efforts to privatize it.
BASH: Do you want to expand it?
CLINTON: I want to... (She actually paused to think of another word to avoid saying expand. Go see the video.) enhance the benefits for the poorest recipients of Social Security.
Why not just say yes?
PatrickforO
(15,182 posts)To me it's that simple.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)WHY HILLARY. WHAT THE FUCK.
CountAllVotes
(21,482 posts)

bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)those on lower end. Even "catfood comission" supporated that. Clinton is at least practical. Sanders will promise everything, but get nothing. It's tough being honest when people want ponies, but Clinton is honest on social security.
CountAllVotes
(21,482 posts)Don't laugh too hard. I found out recently that Fancy Feast cat food is approved for human consumption. I often see elderly people buying cat food at the discount store WINCO and it sure isn't for a cat, that is for sure.
How sad is this exactly? Can't we do better for our citizens that a lousy 1.7% COLA which is the projected SS increase effective Jan. 1, 2017?
That will go will far on $1000 a month, a whole $17 = 1/2 box of Fancy Feast cat food.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Congress.
PatrickforO
(15,182 posts)support of Bernie and other conversations that have happened, petitions and the like. I believe Obama is signalling the rest of the party that they need to throw the people a few bones or else the party will really split. Good for our president.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)if it's Clinton vs. Trump that SS will be in grave danger. Goldman-Sachs has a bid in for control of SS.
DonCoquixote
(13,798 posts)Will probably tell Obama he was very very bad, and make sure he lets Auntie Hillary do their job and make all those yucky old poor people eat catfood.
tartan2
(314 posts)expansion of social security... really, seriously come on give me a break!!! It will be interesting to watch were this goes!!!! I have an idea but let's watch this.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)that any DLC lineage democrat would do anything for SS that didn't entail giving with one hand and taking with the other?
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)mrr303am
(159 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)and with much fanfare? And which is likely to swallow a poison pill or just die slowly in a committee somewhere if it even gets that far? That might explain it.
mrr303am
(159 posts)TPP enacted 99.99% probability.
S.S. expansion 99.99% not going to happen, but saying you endorse it sounds good.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)Probably made by child slaves in some hell hole and laundered through a couple of treaty partners on its way to you.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)What with that video of Bill and Paul Ryan wanting to work together on cuts to social programs.
Notice how Clinton speaks of Democrats as if he isn't one of them?
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)so for Obama to now say that we need to expand entitlements is perplexing.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I have never seen this video. Confirms my worst fears, the truth really does sting at times.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Are not Democrats.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)jalan48
(14,738 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)If the President considers living on Social Security a "dignified retirement," then this country truly has gone to the shitter. We could double the benefits and it wouldn't be a "dignified retirement."
How about we start the conversation a few paces back and work on making sure that SS is truly an "insurance" program and not the sole retirement income for so many people?
dynamo99
(48 posts)As in, require all employers to pay into a pension fund that's independent of the employer, for every employee?
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)CountAllVotes
(21,482 posts)I'm one of them as are many women, as they have likely never earned what a man does hence a lower SS benefit tends to be the reality.
I'm living on less that $1,000/month and have been doing so for a long time. No COLA's doesn't help and getting hit with some big unexpected expenses requiring one to take out large loans is pure misery as they take forever to pay back with such a low income.
You cannot always plan no matter how hard you think you've got it all figured out in life as things happen, like getting hit with a serious disability out of the blue.
Big words they are indeed Pres. Obama, but nothing to see here is my take on it so move right along and just forget it. There is nothing "dignified" about any of this and no, an extra $20 a month isn't going to do much around here.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)On June 2011, the average Social Security benefit was $1,180.80 per month.
So, who can live on $14,000 a year and afford to buy medicine?
I suspect Obama is talking like a liberal about Social Security NOW because old people maybe very poor but they VOTE a lot.
And Bernie made it a topic of conversation. Before Bernie, only the RepubliCON meme of killing Social Security was discussed as the intelligent thing to do. Even Obama had the cat food commission look into killing Social Security.
CountAllVotes
(21,482 posts)None of this would have ever come up if Bernie had not brought this out.
KG
(28,772 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)DJ13
(23,671 posts)When the baseline for wages increase SS benefits slip further and further behind due to the immediate increase in prices passed through by employers while retirees have to wait nearly a year for the rising prices to show up in an economist's chart.
Sure (theoretically) the next year should see a corresponding rise in cost of living, but those adjustments never seem to actually be enough to truly cover the increases, leaving people in an ever decreasing standard of living, so lets include the immediate increase in minimum wage in a separate (and immediate) increase in benefits.
dynamo99
(48 posts)Maybe after the minimum wage is solidly fixed to a cost of living index that can't be tampered with by politicians. But I wouldn't want to have to wait for an increase from 2009 to... 2017?
Another option is to tie SS to the CPI-E ("CPI-Elderly" , which weighs items based on what people over 62 buy. More weight to health care and shelter, less to spiffy clothes and musclecars. But ANY reference number that the politicians can tamper with, they will, sooner or later.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)My idea about the minimum wage was an 'in addition to' the standard COLA.
A one time adjustment under that specific circumstance.
LS_Editor
(893 posts)hay rick
(8,563 posts)Maybe he's trying to put some polish on his legacy now that there is no possibility of doing anything. I don't know if he could have done much if he had tried but his SS legacy will be that he attempted nothing.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)johnnyrocket
(1,773 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)"And we can start paying for it by asking the wealthiest Americans to contribute a little bit more, Obama said."
Will he advocate for a SP health system again once the Dems take the WH and Congress?
AzDar
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hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)Think about it.
Dems have always had to go half conservative to win votes and now the Dems are forcing the GOP to the left on inequality.
eridani
(51,907 posts)greymattermom
(5,798 posts)that focuses on food, heat, prescription drugs, and items most used by seniors, would help.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)If true, it's a major policy advancement for him.
But, I'm a little leery of Simpson, Bowles, Peterson, and Ryan lurking in the weeds.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)harun
(11,367 posts)TBF
(35,061 posts)along the way I am good. This is the Barack Obama I initially supported. I'm glad to see traces of him return.
LonePirate
(14,057 posts)harun
(11,367 posts)it could actually pass too.
LonePirate
(14,057 posts)There was no public impetus on the issue during those few short months in 2009 when there was Democratic super majority in the Senate. The issue would have gone nowhere.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Dems would have a super majority in both Houses of Congress right now.
Instead, they held the Third Way line, and now we're fucked unless Bernie Sanders is nominated and elected POTUS, which will cause us to regain and expand the huge Democratic majority we lost in 2010 because of Third Way pandering to the corporate 1% at the expense of the 99%. Yes, it's nice that the President acknowledges the blatant fact that SS desperately needs to be expanded a few months before leaving office...but, like, woop-dee-doo, ya know?
What's Clinton gonna do if she's elected? She's not trusted or popular enough to ever help increase the number of down ticket Dems in congress. If she's elected, we'll have a huge republican congress for the next 4 years, with no hope of increasing Dem numbers in congress.
Only Bernie Sanders can bring back a Dem majority to congress, and in a big way.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)how about everyone just be grateful that for the past 8 years, we have had a compassionate human being for a president rather than someone like GWB or Donald Drumpf.
Enthusiast
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CrispyQ
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hibbing
(10,415 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)It's not just Social Security which needs to be increased, but Medicare benefits, i.e., expanded to cover HEARING AIDS, EYEGLASSES AND DENTAL CARE! ! !
But hell! why should the US of A provide the same level and standard of care for its elderly/citizens as does every other friggin advanced country!
We've got anti-corporate governments to overthrow around the world! We have a massive military industrial complex to grow! We have to protect our title as Merchants of Death. We can't spare our citizens' tax payments on frivolities like health care and infrastructure.
CountAllVotes
(21,482 posts)The mister lost one of the six teeth he has left last week. The cost was almost $400. to remove what was left of it and his plates need to be fixed now too, another $300. for that.
Well, there goes his check and half of mine for the month almost!
Shame shame shame on you America for allowing hard working citizens AND veterans to live in such a wretched fashion that totally lacks integrity!
Mark 750
(79 posts)This is the leader we need - The Intercept has this story:
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/02/obama-wanted-to-cut-social-security-then-bernie-sanders-happened/
merkins
(399 posts)Caved in on COLA and trots this out as a lame duck president ... yeah that 12th level chess game is working wonders.
ozone_man
(4,825 posts)He's getting as bad as Hillary. Which Obama?
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Thank you for posting this.
I doubt it will affect anyone but those living at poverty level or below (I hope it does, because our poverty level is way too low as it is)...but anything would be a help for single people on SS who have very low SS benefits and no other source of retirement fund and maybe can't supplement with a job because of health issues or just can't find a job. I worry most about single people, because it's more expensive to live alone, and a couple may have two sources of income coming in (even if it's only SS). That doesn't mean they aren't still living in poverty though.
We really need to do something about poverty in this country. I'm glad Obama is moving left on this. I have a feeling the size of the Bernie movement has had some affect on him.
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