Vast Majority of Democrats Want Sanders to Stay in Race: Poll
Source: Common Dreams
Despite pressure from party establishment on Sanders to drop out of the race, most Democratic voters want the senator to keep running - A new poll released Wednesday found that a majority of registered Democrats want presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders to stay in the race. The national survey of 2,001 voters by Morning Consult found that 57 percent of all Democrats polled want Sanders to keep running, while 33 percent want him to drop out. Ten percent have no opinion.
The findings contradict the pressure from prominent Democratic politicians and centrist pundits on Sanders to drop out of the presidential racesome of whom even argue that he's already lostdespite the fact that several states (including delegate-rich California) and U.S. territories have yet to hold their primaries. (Polls also show Sanders and Clinton in a dead heat in California, which votes on June 7.)
The survey also found that a greater share of women registered as Democrats want Sanders to stay in the race than do Democratic men, directly contradicting another popular media narrative that posits that Sanders' support comes largely from men, while rival Hillary Clinton supposedly wins more support from women.
Fifty-seven percent of voters of all political stripes also told the pollsters that they want Sanders to stay in the race, while 28 percent think he should drop out. A whopping 64 percent of respondents under 25 believe Sanders should keep running, in keeping with Sanders' popularity with young people.
Read more: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/01/vast-majority-democrats-want-sanders-stay-race-poll
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)Of course he should stay in until the last primary is held. I don't see what the issue is here. I think its about simple fairness rather than anything. I wouldn't read into any gender or numbers though. Here I am a Hillary supporter saying he should stay in the race but I didn't support him and don't support SD's switching based on some months out general election forecasts. So please proceed Senator and carry on until the end.
padfun
(1,850 posts)How can SD's switch when they haven't voted yet?
mercuryblues
(14,917 posts)haven't voted yet either. Both candidates are tied at 0-0.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Pledged voters are not encouraged to switch. Rather they are intended not to. Unpledged delegates, on the other hand, are free to do whatever they want.
mercuryblues
(14,917 posts)Jane Sanders:
"Well I think CNN and MSNBC should listen to the communications director of the DNC who said don't count those super delegates, until they actually vote. You don't count the pledged delegates until they actually vote."
By saying this, she is implying that because no votes have been cast, Bernie is tied with Clinton and PD may actually switch.
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)Because they've already "committed" to her. The vote at the convention is a formality.
padfun
(1,850 posts)They were "polled" and even before Bernie was in. You cant count them no more than you can count polls for your totals.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)member at the Carlson School of Business and describes himself as a consultant to Republican governors. Interesting!
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)has ended even though he will NOT be the nominee.
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)pnwmom
(109,435 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)I hope she won't be a sore loser. On the positive side, she will have plenty of time to take some much needed computer classes.
though you can keep on saying that til the cows come home.
dhol82
(9,420 posts)Curious.
MFM008
(19,984 posts)Response to Baobab (Original post)
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slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)Arazi
(6,882 posts)jalan48
(14,266 posts)It will be great to hear him speak at the Convention.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)They don't believe in an honest primary. They don't really like democracy because it's so messy. They want the chosen one (chosen by the Corporate-Oligarchy, their "mommy" to be anointed like a queen. For some reason they want a Clinton-Sachs Aristocracy. But the millions that have come out to support Sen Sanders want freedom and liberty and a decent distribution of wealth. All those things the Clinton-Sachs supporters hate.
NanceGreggs
(27,835 posts)... is the one wanting to be "anointed" by the SDs. And there's a coronation that isn't going to happen.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)I'm not sad. Sorry. I'm looking forward and have lots and lots of positives.
Laugh and the whole world laughs with you.
George II
(67,782 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)It's obvious from the battles we've seen in the various states and as it plays out here in DU.
The Social Democrats that believe in helping the People and the Corporate Democrats that believe in helping big corporations make bigger profits. Now some of the corporatists will swear up and down that even though they support corporate control of our government, they still want to help those among us struggling. Like giving Monsanto more power will help the small farmers or the consumers that don't want to consume GMO. Like helping the Banksters will prevent another bubble burst like the housing collapse. People lost their homes and savings and the corporate Democrats somehow rationalize that away that those that lost homes deserved it because....... oh I don't know, you probably know the rationalization better than I. We need to continue to increase the funding for the MIC corporations because war machines are more important than reducing poverty.
When confronted with these non-emphatic positions the Corporate Democrats will counter with "pragmatism", their excuse to ignore the suffering around us.
Of course the Corporate Democrats with their Clinton Aristocracy are funded by the big corporations, duh. And anyone that thinks the Corp-Democrats won't yield to them over helping the poor are sadly naive.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Do you plan to support him if Sanders isn't the Democratic nominee?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)controls our Party? Do you plan on supporting Trump?
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)I'll support whoever I damn well like, but it won't be Her Majesty.
Democat
(11,617 posts)You are helping Trump as much as any of his supporters on right wing websites.
Maybe you can't even tell that you've become a Trump enabler because you're so blinded by hatred of Democrats.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)That's not hate. It's just the position my understanding of the facts and her actions lead me to.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)It is healthy for the Dem Party to have both Hillary and Bernie all in.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I like your name. Welcome to DU!
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)own interests in mind they just want what they want and instant gratification takes too long for that crowd. It's unseemly.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)many people have been promised jobs with them. They are the ones making the most noise.
joshcryer
(62,366 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)She stated she should campaign through and past the CA primary because RFK was shot during the '68 CA primary and you never know what could happen to Obama. That was a new low and almost threatening. I'm not surprised Obama refused her the VP spot after that BS.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,293 posts)Thanks for reminding us.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)Traditionally, candidates do not wait until the convention to prove how many superdelegates they have. In 2008, Hillary Clinton conceded to Barack Obama two-and-a-half months before the Democratic convention. (The convention started on August 25, Hillary conceded on June 7.)
This year, the Democratic convention starts on July 25. Two-and-a-half months before that date is May 7. That would give Sanders three-and-a-half weeks to catch up on Clintons delegate lead. Remember, Hillarys 2008 delegate count was much closer to Obamas than Sanders delegate count is to Hillarys today.
http://americablog.com/2016/04/team-sanders-now-demanding-hillary-win-59-pledged-delegates.html
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)You would not have faired well in a logic class. It's not important the date of the convention. What's important is the dates of the primaries. Nice job not addressing Hillarys assassination comments. And she withdrew because she was made a deal to be Sec. Of State...a position where she could guarantee massive arms sales to Saudia Arabia and other pro-US dictatorships and influence starting more wars like in Libya that even most of the Defense Dept was against. She served her corporate partners well that is true.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,293 posts)puffy socks
(1,473 posts)I care about politics. What's it to you?
FailureToCommunicate
(14,293 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)It is ironic.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)There is Sanders' strength, once again, against Trump. Sanders has wide-ranging popularity.
And only 33% of Democrats want him to drop out. Here's a comment on this at the Common Dreams site:
It hard for me to reconcile the numbers of Democrats in total who want Sanders to remain in the race , with the number of votes he has received in each of the primaries. That 33 percent that want him to drop out suggests to me that this a truer reflection of the total Clinton supporters --from the OP (my emphasis).
I was thinking the same thing.
A third number is telling: 64% of people under age 25 want Sanders in! Wow!
And all this is after months and months of the Corrupt Media, in newspapers, on TV and on radio, telling people it's over, or, as some Clinton supporters like to put it, "Stick a fork in him--he's done!"
It's not over for the people "of all political stripes." It's not over for young people. It's not over for Democrats. It's not over for Sanders supporters. It's not over for Sanders!
And you gotta wonder what people would have said if they'd been asked: Do you want Clinton to stay in the race? With her dismal trustworthy and favorability ratings, and her polls vs Trump getting worse (she's now losing to Trump!), I wonder if that number would be 33%, the same as the number of those who want Sanders to drop out--and a true reflection of her current popularity.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,831 posts)of the voters in early states where Clinton won are having second thoughts.
trudyco
(1,258 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)That one really Berns me.
I know I should not admit that because now I have a target on my back. I've had quite a few trolls trying to engage me lately.
Wibly
(613 posts)They will encourage Sanders to stay in and use the convention fight as a spring board.
Near as I can tell though, they are more worried about the Clinton political machine, and don't want to offend it. There's an awful lot of money behind Hillary and Bill.
Seems the push to have Sanders out is short sighted and more than a little bit fear generated. The DNC is afraid a floor fight will harm their preferred candidate.
That is absolutely the wrong way for the DNC to be thinking right now. The DNC should be thinking about making their convention, and nomination, the most open democratic and inclusive event in American politics. They should not be worried about who comes out the winner. They should be pre-occupied insuring that every American has a say, inside their party and out.
Primarily, their goal should be to present the people with a clear alternative to the obvious Fascist the Republicans have chosen.
Right now it seems they are fully prepared to fight the coming election on a "at least she's not Donald or some crazy Socialist" meme, when they should be fighting it on a "we represent you and the core values of American Society" platform.
If the Democrats lose the coming election, it will not be because Bernie Sanders stayed in too long, or did not stay in long enough. It will be because the DNC put money and power ahead of serving the country and the ideals of democracy, and did not listen to what the Majority of Americans are telling them.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)If you are downticket, you either endorse them, or shut up. God forbid you endorse another candidate.
You will be dealt with later if you are on the wrong side of the convention, they don't forget who pissed them off and your state/district will suffer accordingly.
That's politics, folks, all the rest of that "We'll do what's best for the country!" after getting nominated is just so much bullshit.
The punishment for those downticket with enough hutzpah to challenge their personal agenda of accumulating wealth and power at the expense of the nation gets meted out later.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)About the FBI investigation in to Hillary's time as Secretary of State.
Of course Bernie is going to stay in the race.
Bernie is going to the convention.
Bernie is going to be our nominee.
Bernie Sanders is going to be the next President of the United States.
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)And for the good of our country.
cynzke
(1,254 posts)Why are we all getting upset over this election cycle. We only have to look back to 1980 to see how contentious it was between Obama and Hillary going into the Democratic Convention. Nothing is concrete until the convention. Hillary was leading in national polls, but Obama won the nomination. We shouldn't assume anything until its over. Conventions are not merely a big party, balloons and confetti. It can be a knock out, dragged out battle. Sanders hits a chord with many potential voters on important issues. Those issues and concerns remain, even if Sanders loses the nomination. It is important not to ignore the message just because you don't like the messenger. We will survive this jumble. It will sort its self out soon enough and we will all come together and focus on November. Be patient.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2008
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)Bernie has many reasons to stay in..as Cali will show..
Arazi
(6,882 posts)Response to Baobab (Original post)
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One day it gets over.
First it was here
Then it was there
Then it was New York
Now its California
He keeps falling behind in delegates.
Sanders will still be preaching to the Pigeons
from street corners in 2018.
40RatRod
(549 posts)....even since I have never been sure he is a dem based on some of his past comments, he has every right to continue. IMHO, he will only be further splitting the party, which could give us the Donald. Doubtful at this point he can bring his supporters, or even want to, to vote for Clinton.