US intelligence officials concerned about briefing Trump, Clinton

[seafan]

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Source: The Hill

Some U.S. intelligence officials are worried about providing a routine intelligence briefing to Donald Trump once he becomes the official Republican presidential nominee, according to a report.

Eight senior security officials told Reuters they were concerned that Trump's "shoot from the hip" style could pose national security risks, as they prepare to give him a routine pre-election briefing for presidential nominees.

They also cited his lack of foreign policy experience, and his little known team of foreign policy advisers.

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Current and formal officials also expressed concern over briefing Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton, according to Reuters.

They cited the scandal over her use of emails when she was secretary of State and her handling of sensitive information. She is currently facing an FBI probe over whether she compromised security and broke laws over her use of a private email server for government work at State.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/defense/282012-us-intelligence-officials-concerned-about-briefing-trump-clinton

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Just thrilled with confidence, here.

[pangaia]

1. What a fucking something or other this is...!!

I don't know whether to laugh or cry or just go to bed

[Wilms]

6. Well, you made me feel better!

Thanks!

[pangaia]

8. Great. One should always try to bring joy to other human beings.

Think I'll have a bourbon... BOOKER'S, to be porecise., procise, rpesice..
Shit, I can't spell it - see my sig line.

[Frank Cannon]

33. Think I'll skip the Bookers and go right to hookers

It's going to take a lot more than booze to take my mind off of how truly screwed we are in this country. It's like every bad '70s dystopian sci-fi trope is coming to life before our very eyes. Unfuckingbelievable.

[pangaia]

35. I don't even know what a '70s dystopian sci-fi trope is.

Do I want to?

I read The Mote In God's Eye many years ago, that's about it....

[Frank Cannon]

44. Movies like Silent Running, Rollerball...

Soylent Green
Mad Max
Planet of the Apes
Etc.

Movies where there are a few in power and the rest of us all suffer miserably. That was a popular theme in the 1970s.

Great book you mention, BTW. A classic.

[pangaia]

46. I have heard of all those films but never saw them, if you can imagine that.

But I now know your reference. Thanks...

yes. Mote is great... One of the few sci-fi books I know....

And some Heinlein...

[Frank Cannon]

59. Oh, well, then you've got some movie watching to do!

I'd start with Rollerball (1975). Considered brutal and shocking when it first came out, now it's a tame and prophetically accurate prediction of our world today. The last sequence alone is worth the rental price. James Caan against the machine.

[Marty McGraw]

63. the city scape

of Blade Runner comes to mind as well

[bjo59]

69. That's the one that came to my mind too.

[pangaia]

65. I have the titles copied and will get them from Netflix.

in between Kurosawa, Yimou Zhang, Inagaki, iang Xiao and the other 52 or so films in my queue. :&gt )

Thanks for the leads...

[tblue37]

73. There is a sequel, you know--it is called

The Gripping Hand (a reference to the third hand the Moties use to grip whatever they are working on).

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Are they giving us a reason

to trade prisoners?

IOW, look for new candidates?

[OnyxCollie]

3. Pathetic. nt

[rhett o rick]

4. The Corporate-Oligarchy has us where they want us. It's time to fight back. nm

[pangaia]

9. I think that is maybe what a lot or at least some of Clinton supporters do not see.

That is the difference between this election and others in the past; the difference between Sanders and the others.
It is an entirely different battle. In a way, it's not even so much out who wins the presidency. That is just the vehicle.

I said this somewhere else, but the guy has more balls than a pitching machine. And he's bringing the high heat !!!!!!

I know what it is like to have a 90 mph fastball go whizzing by, thrown by a person. I never even saw it. I just heard it and felt the wind. It was NOT fun.

[rhett o rick]

36. I agree. I think a lot of failures have been do to the fact that the challenger

has always tried to fit into the Establishment to fight and Sen Sanders isn't and many, many people appreciate it. The Corporate DEmocrats are stymied. They think the Social Democrats will yield to the authoritarian leaders like they do but we never have and never will. Some how they can't grasp that.

[thereismore]

5. Hillary has a proven record of ignoring security measures. Trump, not yet. nt

[AntiBank]

20. Give him time, I am sure he can outdo Clinton.

[thereismore]

25. It's possible. nt

[BillZBubb]

41. That would take a L-O-N-G time.

[forest444]

7. They're probably also worried that Trump will try to sell or otherwise profit from the information.

The art of the deal, baby.

[840high]

45. Does he have a Foundation......?

[forest444]

64. Zing! It's one of life's great ironies, as you know,

that people who go at each other's throats as much as Trump and Hillary do, usually have many things in common.

[tblue37]

74. More like he is too ignorant and thoughtless to know when to keep his mouth shut or

what to keep it shut about.

Oh, and his campaign manager works closely with Putin's oligarchic buddies.

[Angel Martin]

10. maybe they should just skip it for both until after the election

Obama is still President until January

[JBoy]

23. +1

[pnwmom]

11. No problem with Colin Powell, though, despite his DELETING all of his emails

after routing them through that bastion of security, AOL.

[Duval]

12. At least he didn't have a private server in the basement.

[pnwmom]

17. A private server could be much more secure than AOL was, depending

entirely on how it was set up.

And we know that the .gov system was quite hackable, since it was discovered that foreign governments had hacked hundreds of thousands of emails from it.

[rhett o rick]

38. The point isn't that her server was more or less secure, she didn't have the authority

to make the choice.

[pnwmom]

42. And she wasn't forbidden from doing it either. The law specifically allowed

the use of private email till the federal records act was amended in 2014.

[rhett o rick]

52. For confidential documents? Then why the investigation. I think Clinton

believes the rules don't apply to her. I think she was covering up the connection between her Foundation and government work.

[pnwmom]

58. For anything that wasn't classified, She used her SCIF secure system,

which she had installed both at home and at work, for classified documents.

[rhett o rick]

60. She claims she did know which was and wasn't classified. Again, the FBI is interested in

something.

[pnwmom]

61. I don't even know what your first sentence is supposed to mean. n/t

[frylock]

51. This private server wasn't more secure than AOL.

[dbackjon]

13. Yup

[AlbertCat]

29. Colin Powell is running for president?????

Who knew?

[rhett o rick]

39. LOL. No, that's the "they did it too so it must be ok" excuse. Didn't work for me with my Mom

and it won't work for Clinton.

[Raster]

32. Is Powell running for POTUS? I must have missed that...

...and I'll be you did too!

[frylock]

50. I know it's difficult, but maybe try and stay on topic?

[grasswire]

57. don't even bother trying to defend this situation

It is not subject to your deflection.

[George II]

14. This is NOT NEWS, it's opinion!!!!!!!!

[AntiBank]

22. it's news

[rhett o rick]

49. What, are you going to tell. How childish.

[frylock]

54. 15 more days hurr durrrrrrrrr

[FailureToCommunicate]

56. Eight (8) exclamation points! This must be something really important!

Or not.

[PatrickforO]

15. Well, on Clinton's behalf, fuck them. She was the Secretary of State!!!

Who ARE these arrogant assholes???

As to Trump....well, I totally understand that.

[SCantiGOP]

26. OP is idiotic

The original story weeks ago had to do with concerns about briefing Trump. Of course there would be no issue about sharing current info with someone who has been in government and has served as Sec of State.

[shadowmayor]

16. False Equivalence Again

I support Bernie, but this is all too indicative of our media playing the "both sides do it" card. Lemme see here - a former Senator and Sec. State is a troubling individual to give briefings??? WTF? I can see the worries about tRump, but guess what - you gets the candidates who wins the race. To put them both into the same worry pool is bunkum, pure donkey fazoo.

[pnwmom]

19. You can imagine who those anonymous sources were. n/t

[hamsterjill]

43. Absolutely spot on post!!!

Well said. It's childish for it to always be "both did it", etc.

Clinton has or has had, at least, security clearance. Trump is a reality television star. There is a difference.

[MisterP]

72. in Honduras, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and now Iran, not once did she listen to experts

and she leaks like a sieve

[SheilaT]

18. Maybe the fundamental question is:

Why is it even remotely necessary to brief the nominees at all? Why not wait until there's an elected President?

[scscholar]

27. So they can hit the ground running?

And then are able to make their victims hit the ground when the rule.

[JonLeibowitz]

67. 'when they rule' -- Careful, your authoritarian stripes are showing.

[SheilaT]

71. The time between the election and the Inauguration

is more than two months. That really ought to be sufficient.

[passiveporcupine]

21. Why are there so many threads sourced from The Hill lately?

Did I miss a memo? Is this a campaign policy I don't know about?

Bernie wouldn't even like us using this as a source to discuss "issues" with Hillary, much less Skinner.

[EdwardBernays]

24. The worst thing

Is that the least trustworthy people involved are the intelligence services.

[wisteria]

28. She was SOS, who are these current and former officials? Republicans?

I call bullsh*t.

[gordianot]

30. I have developed a healthy scepticism for vague unnamed sources, however

I have been wondering about how this will be handled given current concerns.

[Mike Nelson]

31. While I understand the concern about Trump...

...these "intelligence officials" should be fired immediately for leaking opinions to "The Hill" and telegraphing their negative opinions to the world.

[Zambero]

34. Attempting to level an uneven playing field

Hillary undoubtedly has a greater knowledge of sensitive information than these anonymous "officials" ever would. However, I have a suspicion that they are a fictitious entity concocted to create the illusion that Hillary is somehow on the same shaky level as loudmouth Trump.

[Herman4747]

40. Well, actually she is! Both are incompetent!

And they are just about on the same level, don't you think?

[840high]

47. I do.

[Zambero]

70. Weddings don't count

Especially when that guy on the left is still a Democrat-leaning independent, before the subjects became political adversaries. Don't expect to see any re-enactments of that "happy" event. BTW, I've seen this photo before and this particular one has Bill Clinton cropped out of the picture. I wonder why that might be?

[bucolic_frolic]

37. Trump Intelligence Briefing

is just an oxymoron in and of itself

[George II]

48. Guess who WON'T get any briefings?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

53. He wont be listening anyway because he already knows....

Why should he anyway?

Bunch of low energy, overpaid government workers.

Obviously they're inferior to him.

They're not rich.

[jtuck004]

55. Lol. You think you are concerned now, wait 'til November. n/t

[nc4bo]

62. Good Lord of the Flies, how effed up is this development?

Gawd.

[intrepidity]

66. "Some" only?!?

I'd be concerned if ALL weren't worried about Trump. Clinton, I don't see a problem with. But Trump??

[LiberalLovinLug]

68. Why would they give this kind of top level info out to candidates?

There is no pertinent reason is there? Isn't Biden still the Vice President? Whoever wins still will have the two months of transition period to get caught up.

[LostOne4Ever]

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