San Jose: Raucous protests erupt outside Donald Trump rally

[alp227]

Source: San Jose Mercury News

SAN JOSE -- Dozens of fights broke out on the streets of downtown San Jose on Thursday night as police in riot gear struggled to keep the peace between hundreds of protesters and streams of Donald Trump fans leaving his rally at the city's convention center.

Several protesters jumped on cars of Trump supporters, while others burned red "Make America Great" hats and took selfies with the charred remains. Demonstrators waved Mexican flags as Trump supporters told them to "go back to Mexico."

About 9 p.m, there were about 200 protesters about a block away from the convention center as about 70 police in riot gear created a line around the demonstrators. Police lined up, trying to move the protesters onto the street. Police yelled, "Keep moving, keep moving. This is an unlawful assembly." Protesters tossed epithets at the officers.

Exactly who was involved in the violence and where they were from is unclear, but numerous members of the crowd were Latinos from East San Jose who said they opposed the violence but condemned Trump for touting racism.

Read more: http://www.mercurynews.com/politics-government/ci_29971491/san-jose-supporters-line-up-hear-donald-trump

[StarTrombone]

1. And they just sucked all the air out of Hillary's speech today

And handed the weekend news cycle to Trump

It's getting so close to '68 I can almost smell the ditto machine fluid as the pamphlets were being cranked

[Brother Buzz]

2. Dittos made only a few dozen copies at best and they would fade quickly sunlight

Mimeographs were the workhorses back in the day when hundreds and hundreds of copies could be run off by the grassroot outfits working in back rooms of church offices.

'68 was a tumultuous year on many fronts

[vlakitti]

3. Well, Rubbish ....

I was happy to see it. Trump ought to get this kind of treatment wherever he goes, and much more.

You don't get anywhere being temperate and polite to racists and neofascists. A number of corporate media poohbahs and the like will bitch and moan about "incivility" and such but when this turkey gets a lot more of this treatment, he may learn to keep a civil tongue in his mouth. For all the pearl-clutching centrists and editorialists bemoaning this I'll bet a dozen activists are born from it.

People on my side don't have to put up with this crap any more!

[alp227]

4. it's beyond mere incivility

People are being assaulted for the crime of attending Trump rallies.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

34. Comrade! This is not assault! We are freeing you!

Ugly, bloody scenes in San Jose as protesters attack Trump supporters outside rally

Violence Breaks Out at Trump Rally in San Jose, Protesters Hurl Eggs, Throw Punches, Intimidate Supporters



PHOTO: Protesters attack reeducate a man they mistakenly identified as a supporter of Republican presidential candidate

Whatever your cause is, include me out.

[jberryhill]

36. That is complete and utter bullshit, which is entirely ignorant of history

"Freedom isn't always free, freedom needs to be fought for"

No. I have no idea where your education was obtained, but in the United States we do not engage in violence to settle political differences.

The simplest expedient to avoid election of a candidate to whom one objects is not to vote for that candidate. It is that simple.

You obviously have absolutely no historical clue as to the unbelievable irony of your statement:

"the trumpists like nazis are on the wrong side"

One of the things that the Nazis actually exploited in order to gain power was to attract hot-headed detractors to their rallies, and use the ensuing violence as an argument for why firm Nazi rule was necessary.

It was also skillfully exploited by Nixon:

You have no clue whatsoever about the subject.

[jmg257]

38. And what happens when the victims start fighting back?

You think assaulting women is good tactics? You think "fear" will shame the RW?
Do you really think "fear" will make them back down from a fight "for freedom"?

Or will they choose to escalate it?


At this rate it will not be long before people start getting killed for their "brave methods".

You can wait and see what happens when there is a huge uptick in violence & chaos if you wish, I pretty much expect it will not be good.

[lark]

40. I was so aggravated watching this last night.

You don't beat someone by acting like them. This will just cause the Trump supporters to be even more angry and attack other non-violent protestors. It makes us look like we are as violent and crazy as him, or maybe even worse. Wonder how many votes the eventual Democratic nominee lost with what happened last night?

[jmg257]

41. Yep! Aggravated and frustrated is correct, when innocent people get picked on and assaulted.

These Trump yahoos will start carrying, or others will show up "for protection".

Not good.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

17. "People on my side don't have to put up with this crap any more!"

I don't want to be on your side.

[LibDemAlways]

5. It's born out of hatred for Trump and the

shit he espouses. That is completely understandable. But, at the same time, it's counter-productive. Engaging in verbal and physical assault of people you disagree with politically is not an effective means of protest and, in this case, probably ends up creating more Trump voters who sympathize with those being taunted.

[leftynyc]

6. Stupid and counterproductive

They're giving donnie exactly what he wants. I don't give a fig how provoked they feel.

[bucolic_frolic]

13. It's all a trap

Offering to pay legal bills of supporters (lest we forget the Ides of March)

Baiting the Hispanic Judge

Engaging protestors

Who knows who started it in multiple instances, some on both sides
should learn to turn the other cheek

It is healthy that we are not moving forward with a giant display of apathy

[Angel Martin]

25. every time Trump wants to change the subject

in this campaign, all he has to do is schedule a rally in a city where there are lots of radicals.

and the radicals oblige: criminal assault, attacking police, wearing masks, waving mexican flags and shouting in spanish

[leftynyc]

27. Yup

And like I said before, they're only too happy to give him exactly what he wants. How fucking stupid do you have to be to do that?

[Angel Martin]

28. maybe their ultimate goal

is different from a Democratic win in Nov ?

However, I fall back on the perennial wisdom on this:

"never assume conspiracy when stupidity will explain it."

[leftynyc]

29. They let themselves be provoked

It's stupidity.

[Angel Martin]

31. Yup!

they all go on about how "dumb" Trump is and he plays them like a fiddle...

[zazen]

7. "Protestors tossed epithets at the officers." Makes it sound like Molotov cocktails.

[Elmergantry]

8. This will be good for a few thousand votes for Trump.

Morons.

[link:https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/738572899808743424?embed_source=clientlib&player_id=0&rpc_init=1|


Bah! guess it doesn't work. Anyway, Trump supporter gets cold cocked....

[oberliner]

9. Behavior in the videos is very ugly

Everything about this is bad.

[Mohammed_Lee]

11. the (smiling) women hit with eggs is all over the news and will just turn into trump votes n/t

[Retrograde]

43. Who brings raw eggs to a protest?

Unless they're planning on throwing them at some point. I'm not one to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon, but someone was thinking ahead - I just don't know on what side (if any) he or she was on.

[warrprayer]

10. He deserves everything he gets.

"The crime of attending Trump rallies" - attending Hitlers rallies should have been a crime.

"Sucking the air out of Hillary's speech" - I find it telling that Hillary supporters oppose Trump protesters.

And I'm willing to bet the violence was not initiated by the anti Trump protesters.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Mini Reichstags

for sure

[mahatmakanejeeves]

20. "attending Hitlers rallies should have been a crime."

Godwin in one. Congratulations.

Those rallies were held in Germany. In the United States, where I live, these words are in effect:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I hope this helps, but I'm getting more worried every day that it won't make any difference.

[Bluenorthwest]

23. Godwin is a trope that serves fascists by saying 'oh, don't point out the fascists'.

The law you quote gives protesters a right to assemble as well. Those protesters are not the Congress restricting speech they are citizens using their right to protest. No one is promised a right to be the only voice at events that are active in targeting others.

The violence is stupid, but that's a whole different thing. The protesters need to drop that stuff for more effective and theatrical actions.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

26. "The law you quote gives protesters a right to assemble as well."

You left out a word. I'm sure it was an accident. Here, let me help you:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people [font color="red"]peaceably[/font] to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The violence is stupid, but that's a whole different thing.

Just stupid? Not assault and battery, which, you know, are criminal acts?

Godwin is a trope that serves fascists by saying 'oh, don't point out the fascists'.

Doubling your bet?

[Yupster]

45. We should add to the first amendment

"unless we disagree with what they're saying. Then they need to be assaulted."

[jberryhill]

37. You should study how those Nazi rallies went

It was a deliberate strategy of the Nazis to attract violent protestors, as part of their argument that "order" was needed.

It is precisely your sort of thinking which strengthened their hand.

[Ace Rothstein]

14. This plays right into Trump's hands.

Waving Mexican flags. Ugh.

[spinbaby]

19. Plays right into Trump's hands

I noticed that the media narrative this morning went something like this:

Why, yes, Trump certainly is appalling.

Here's an attractive sound bite from Trump.

Here's innocent white Trump supporters being attacked by Hispanic hoodlums.

Here's Hillary also attacking Trump.

[LoverOfLiberty]

15. Protesters beating a man

and then shouting BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE!

WTF? Is this what Philadelphia is going to be like?

[rladdi]

16. While I was watching the police did a terrible job keeping the protestors separated. In fact

they didn't. Lots of mask thugs and gangs at that rally too.

[sofa king]

18. And where is Roger Stone in all of this?

[mopinko]

21. ding ding ding. we have a winner.

that is exactly what i was thinking watching it live last night.

all just a little too tidy for me.

[tenderfoot]

46. Yep.

That so many are buying this hook, line and sinker makes me

The disruptors are having a lot of fun with it though.

[bucolic_frolic]

22. Ye Reap What Ye Sow

Maybe that's what the Evangelicals want

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/03/donald-trump-deserves-blame-san-jose-rally-protester-violence.html

[mahatmakanejeeves]

24. Wow, does that guy have his {vision impaired}.

Donald Trump Deserves All Of The Blame For San Jose Rally Protester Violence

By Jason Easley on Fri, Jun 3rd, 2016 at 10:00 am

Donald Trump is looking to create violence with his rhetoric, and the violent anti-Trump protests in San Jose gave the presumptive Republican nominee exactly what he wanted.
....

There is only one person to blame for the violence, and that is Donald Trump.

I'm lost for words.

[jonno99]

30. What are the violent protesters sowing - and what will they reap? nt

[bucolic_frolic]

32. The sowing was done in March

[jonno99]

35. Ok - but what is the violence sowing today? nt

[bucolic_frolic]

39. Why don't you go hassle someone of your own kind?

I'm putting you on full ignore, you are an irritant.

[GummyBearz]

42. Best thing to do

Best thing to do when you end up in a debate with someone of superior intellect. Cover your ears and repeat "nanana I can't hear you". Works every time

[ripcord]

44. What happens when the protesters attack an armed Trump supporter?

[romanic]

47. All out war basically.