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Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:10 AM Jun 2016

Harry Shilling: UK gun smuggler jailed for 30 years

Source: BBC

The man behind Britain's most notorious gun-smuggling operation, involving £100,000-worth of weapons, has been jailed for 30 years.

Harry Shilling, 26, from Swanley in Kent, will serve a minimum of 20 years. He has also been put on licence for a further five years.

He and his gang smuggled 31 machine guns and more than 1,500 rounds of ammunition into the UK by boat.

The guns came from the same source as those used in the Charlie Hebdo attack.


Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36446462

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Harry Shilling: UK gun smuggler jailed for 30 years (Original Post) Bad Dog Jun 2016 OP
the UK has finally found a crime that they think Angel Martin Jun 2016 #1
You don't consider 25 years a stiff sentence? Bad Dog Jun 2016 #3
I was going to say the same thing! SkyDaddy7 Jun 2016 #4
Get your facts straight before posting nonsense. Murder carries a mandatory life sentence Chakab Jun 2016 #5
LOL! I love it when... SkyDaddy7 Jun 2016 #6
Good to see someone go to jail for this. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #2
I guess the UK doesn't value a "well regulated militia" as much as the U.S. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #7
We place no value in private armies whatsoever. Bad Dog Jun 2016 #8

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
3. You don't consider 25 years a stiff sentence?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jun 2016

We don't want guns in our country. This should serve as a deterrent.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
5. Get your facts straight before posting nonsense. Murder carries a mandatory life sentence
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:09 AM
Jun 2016

in the UK.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_-_mandatory_life_sentences_in_murder_cases/

Even if an offender is eventually released they will be on license (parole) and hence under strict supervision for life.


Many Americans seem to under the misconception that the lenient sentences and cushy prison conditions that exist in the Scandinavian countries exemplify the penal system in the rest of Europe and the UK. This is false.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
6. LOL! I love it when...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:48 AM
Jun 2016

Someone says, "Get your facts straight before posting nonsense" and they don't have a clue what they themselves are talking about it! Kinda like your basic Tea Bagger Trump supporter!

I like that you posting "guidelines" but the REALITY is the average time a person convicted of murder spends 16yrs in prison...And that is up from years past.

"Historical figures from the MoJ show that normally between 100 and 200 people convicted for murder are released from prison per year. The average time served has been slowly rising in recent years - from 13 years in 1999 to 16 last year."

How murder sentencing works

People convicted for murder must receive a 'mandatory life sentence' which takes different forms for those who committed murder aged 10 to 18 (detention during Her Majesty's pleasure) and between 18 and 21 (custody for life). This is known as an 'indeterminate sentence' so there's no fixed maximum length it can take.

However, judges can set 'minimum terms' during which the prisoner cannot be released. Once this time is served, a Parole Board must approve release once it is "satisfied the risk of harm the prisoner poses to the life and limb of the public is no more than minimal."

The determinations involved in setting a minimum term are set out in Schedule 21 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Judges must first choose a starting point which reflects the broad circumstances of a murder - this can be either a 'whole life order', 30, 25, 15 or 12 years (the latter for offences committed by those under 18). From there, the trial judge weighs up additional factors to either lengthen or shorten the minimum term.

https://fullfact.org/crime/how-long-do-murderers-serve-prison/

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
7. I guess the UK doesn't value a "well regulated militia" as much as the U.S.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:41 PM
Jun 2016
The NRA would likely give him an award if he did it here.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
8. We place no value in private armies whatsoever.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:29 AM
Jun 2016

We've got a parliamentary system going back for over 700 years. Freedom through the ballot box, not some idiot with a gun.

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