Hillary Clinton Wins Virgin Islands Democratic Caucuses

[Cali_Democrat]

Source: ABC

Hillary Clinton has won Saturday's Democratic caucuses in the U.S. Virgin Islands, the islands' Democratic Party announced.

Seven pledged delegates were at stake in the caucuses.

Heading into the Virgin Islands caucuses, Clinton had 1,769 pledged delegates and 547 super delegates. Sanders has 1,501 pledged delegates and 46 super delegates. 2,383 are needed to nominate.

While voters went to the polls in the Virgin Islands, Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders both made appearances in California ahead of Tuesday's primary there. Clinton is moving up the California coast today with events in Sylmar, Oxnard, Santa Barbara and Fresno, while Sanders is holding two events in Los Angeles.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-wins-virgin-islands-democratic-caucuses/story?id=39613905

[bravenak]

1. Great news!!!!!

[JonLeibowitz]

3. I thought you didn't support Clinton? That's what you said anyway.

[Cali_Democrat]

4. Who are you? The resident board nanny?

LOL.

[bravenak]

6. I said I voted for her

People need to stop obsessing over everything I say and do.

[JonLeibowitz]

20. Who's obsessing? I am simply calling out inconsistencies.

[bravenak]

22. I can vote for people I do not especially like or support

Which is why I said stop obsessing

[JonLeibowitz]

23. Absolutely, but then saying "Great news!!!" is like cheering just to be on the winning team

Strange.

[bravenak]

24. I am cheering.

For her big win. Diverse voters chose her overwhelmingly. I vote with my demographic.

[JonLeibowitz]

26. How open-minded of you. Your concern for the issues is noted.

[bravenak]

36. My concern for my demographic is an important issue

Had it been more important to the runner up, he might have won us and me by default.

[pnwmom]

7. She switched a long time ago, and has been open about the reasons why. n/t

[JonLeibowitz]

21. Yes, to get back at Bernie is what I heard.

[bravenak]

25. I really do not understand why it matters

People just need to get over me. I am not why he lost! Gah!

[George II]

33. This is DU, don't you realize you have to explain every aspect of what goes on in your mind...

....minute by minute?

[bravenak]

35. Damn!! You right.

I should send out alerts everytime I think a new thought.

[George II]

37. I think I can get you a deal on one of these to bank out your news flashes.

[bravenak]

39. Looks like something from the early days of Scientology

[George II]

41. .

[hrmjustin]

9. You know she is for Hillary.

[MFM008]

2. Yup

[beachbumbob]

5. Creeping closer to 2383

And PR primary tomorrow will leave Hillary less than TWO dozen delagates away from the presumed nomination and declarative winner of the democratic primary....and remaining super delegates could commit before Tuesday and make her the overwhelming winner

[LiberalFighter]

8. So she got at least 4 of the 7 delegates

After reviewing the district allocation it is likely at least 5 out 7.

[pnwmom]

10. Plus 4 super delegates, so she will only need 62 or 63 after today.

Puerto Rico has 60 pledged delegates and 6 super delegates.

[LiberalFighter]

38. AP and media include SD's prior to elections.

So SD's won't be double counted.

[pnwmom]

40. I realize that. And I wasn't. She was at 67 with her supers counted in.

Now she has another 6, according to this:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/VI-D

And if you check the AP delegate tracker and search for Virgin Islands, you can see that they're including her 4 super delegates in her total but not yet any regular delegates. But with the supers already accounted for, she only needs 67 more delegates to reach the majority.

https://interactives.ap.org/2016/delegate-tracker/

[LiberalFighter]

42. Yep! And I just saw that.

Hillary plastered him.

[DesertRat]

58. She's getting closer!

[DURHAM D]

11. rut row

https://twitter.com/leotamutu?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

BS just lost a Super-D from the Virgin Islands





I thought these were supposed to be going in the other direction.

[SunSeeker]

28. Yep, they are going with the vote of the people...just like Bernie wanted them to!

He urged superdelegates to "vote in line with how the people of that state voted" about 3 weeks ago, although now he's changed his mind. I guess he realized that would mean "Clinton would have 384 superdelegates, to Sanders' 177," so that would increase Hillary's lead of pledged delegates, and give her the majority.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/16/politics/democratic-superdelegate-math-sanders-clinton/

[enid602]

52. sd's

The popular non-binding primary elections in NE and WA probably made him change his mind.

[LiberalFighter]

43. Sanders lost him on Tuesday.

[phazed0]

57. This is all new behavior from the DNC.. SD's and counting...

Huffpost - Clinton and the DNC Are Not Just Colluding — They’re Changing the Rules for Superdelegates

[Omaha Steve]

12. When Bernie wins a caucus it is un-democratic

BUT when Hillary wins....

[pnwmom]

14. This changes nothing. All contests should be open primaries. But Hillary still would have won.

[Omaha Steve]

18. I'm pointing out how many times DUers with a certain view have expressed about caucuses

When she loses a caucus we hear about she would have won a primary. Using that logic Bernie would have won the primary.

But today is so different from caucuses she lost. When she wins (or ties like IA) they love the result.

[SunSeeker]

29. Hillary won Iowa. nt

[Omaha Steve]

30. On coin flips

It was supposed to be over after IA.

[SunSeeker]

31. No, coin flips did not determine her Iowa win. That is another Sanders myth.

Coin-Toss Fact-Check: No, Coin Flips Did Not Win Iowa For Hillary Clinton

It's been reported that there were as many as six sites where ties were decided by the flip of a coin — and Clinton won every single one.
...
Gone unmentioned so far is that even if Clinton won that Miracle Six — and there were no other coin tosses — it would make little difference in the outcome. That is, in part, because of the complicated way Iowa Democrats allocate their delegates — and what was being reported on election night and what wasn't.
...
And here's the root of what's causing all the confusion: The breakdown of those 11,065 is not reported on caucus night. What IS reported, what Clinton's 49.9 to 49.6 percent tracing-paper-thin lead is based on, is "state delegate equivalents." Those are ESTIMATES of how many of those 11,065 will attend the congressional district and state conventions. So ... when those coin tosses are happening, they are elected delegates in that larger universe. That means, for Clinton to have picked up the four delegates, she would have had to have won not six in a row, but more like 47.

http://www.npr.org/2016/02/02/465268206/coin-toss-fact-check-no-coin-flips-did-not-win-iowa-for-hillary-clinton

No, Hillary Clinton did not win Iowa because of a coin flip

Of the seven coin flips/games of chance that were held in precincts using the Microsoft app, six of those were flips to determine whether a county delegate slot went to Clinton or Sanders. Of those six Clinton-vs.-Sanders coin flips, Sanders won five and Clinton one. The seventh coin flip was used to determine whether a county delegate slot went to Sanders or Martin O'Malley. Sanders won that coin flip as well. So in the seven coin flips that the Iowa Democratic Party has a record of, Sanders won six of them.

So it's incorrect to say that Clinton won every coin flip.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/hillary-clinton-coin-flip-iowa-bernie-sanders/

[Omaha Steve]

32. Fair enough

She went from 95% to 49.9 in 8 months. Less than 50%. Yes a great win!

[Adrahil]

61. Naw.... It was over after Super Tuesday....

It's just that the Sanders campaign has been in denial ever since.

[Chicago1980]

60. I don't know if all contests should be open...

If you want to vote in a Democratic Primary then become a democrat.

Too many games could be played. Remember Operation Chaos (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/rushlimbaugh-1.html) perpetuated by Limbaugh?

Too much funny business can be had.

[yallerdawg]

17. You're right - we shouldn't count Hillary caucus wins.

Just Bernie's.

To the bitter end, OS?

[Omaha Steve]

19. I'm saying be consistent in your opinions of the caucus process

Good one day. Bad the next. IF you can't see it,...

That is all.

[msongs]

45. bernie - superdelegates bad, NO, they're good if they like me, no they're bad, NO they're gonna be

targeted and harassed so they will like me

[Omaha Steve]

47. zzzzz

[DURHAM D]

46. No one said anything about the merits of a caucus

one way or another until you jumped in this thread.

I guess you are just upset about the fact he got less than 15% of the total votes.

[Omaha Steve]

48. Are YOU saying that many Hillary DUers have not complained about the caucus process as unfair?

Or un-democratic in GD-P or the Hillary Group over the last six months?

[DURHAM D]

49. They are extremely un-democratic but

has nothing to do with this thread.

[Omaha Steve]

50. IF you are bragging about a win today in an un-democratic process

But when she losses a caucus you cry foul, there is a word for that.

[DURHAM D]

51. Just stop it.

I have not cried foul when BS wins a caucus but I do know that they are undemocratic.

I was a monitor at my caucus and twice had to help single mothers, one with one daughter and the other with two daughters, out of the auditorium because they being harassed/trash talked/ bullied by BS supporters. They were all crying, mother and daughters, and were forced to leave before the votes were even taken. There were others with children that left early but I was not their escort.

So just stop it.

[Omaha Steve]

54. Bernie caucus goers in minority locations never got harassed

It is all one sided. I'm going to bed.

[DURHAM D]

55. Good. nt

[Omaha Steve]

56. What a nice sharing of the thoughts in a calm and meaningful fashion

[George II]

13. .

[DonRedwood]

15. On to the front page!

[William769]

16. One step closer to breaking that glass ceiling!

[Beacool]

27. Alright!!!!

[pnwmom]

34. 86.5 to 12.3, according to Green Papers.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/VI-D

[DesertRat]

44. Good news! k&r

[Agnosticsherbet]

53. Congratulations, Secretary Clinton.

[GreydeeThos]

59. +1

[DesertRat]

62. Kick!