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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:41 AM Jun 2016

Sanders campaign accuses L.A. city councilman of blocking event at Greek

Source: LA Times

Sanders’ campaign sent an announcement to supporters saying its plan for a get-out-the-vote concert at the Greek had been scrapped and relocated to the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum Olympic Plaza in South Los Angeles. In that message, the campaign also suggested that favoritism was being shown to the presidential campaign of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who has her own event planned at the Greek on Monday.

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Ryu spokesman Estevan Montemayor called those messages “an inaccurate depiction of the last 24 hours” — saying the councilman’s office had been trying to help the campaign stage a successful event. Sanders’ campaign did not have a ticketing system or a plan for addressing traffic congestion, which is required of every group that holds a rally or concert at the Greek, Montemayor said.

“Any person or organization that chooses to have an event at the Greek Theatre needs to follow all the same guidelines,” Montemayor said. “The Sanders campaign was asked to work with L.A. city staff on a traffic mitigation plan and a ticketing system, just as the Clinton campaign has done for their event on Monday evening. The Sanders campaign chose not to move forward.”

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Becky Colwell, the Greek’s general manager, said the Clinton campaign submitted its application a month in advance. The Sanders campaign asked to use the theater on Thursday. Theater officials quickly began working with the campaign on the details, including a ticketing system, she said.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-sanders-greek-theatre-20160604-snap-story.html

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Sanders campaign accuses L.A. city councilman of blocking event at Greek (Original Post) TomCADem Jun 2016 OP
There was no ticketing and no traffic congestion at the Sanders event at the coliseum. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #1
nobody at that scene was voting for hillary anyway, I doubt she lost any votes over it and why msongs Jun 2016 #3
Do you have any proof that she did not? JDPriestly Jun 2016 #4
Proof rests on the claimant. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #6
She had an event on Monday? HeartoftheMidwest Jun 2016 #7
Who really knows? SmittynMo Jun 2016 #9
Are You From CA? The Greek Theater and LA Coliseum Are Totally Different Locations TomCADem Jun 2016 #18
I agree. The Greek Theater is in a very unique location...It is virtually in the middle of a skylucy Jun 2016 #23
I'm from LA. I† is relativxely easy for me to get to the Coliseum, but the Greek Theater was JDPriestly Jun 2016 #24
rules don't apply to sanders just ask him...its all a conspiracy beachbum bob Jun 2016 #2
Actually, that's not what the experts are saying. HeartoftheMidwest Jun 2016 #8
Not a conspiracy SmittynMo Jun 2016 #10
Yep. Duval Jun 2016 #16
Bernie Is Starting to Sound Like Trump Attacking The Judge In His Case TomCADem Jun 2016 #19
so sick of it. MFM008 Jun 2016 #5
More whining from a cranky poor loser. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #11
Hillary supporters are alienating more and more Android3.14 Jun 2016 #12
The Greek Theater In Griffith Park Has Longstanding Traffic Issues TomCADem Jun 2016 #13
Sad that they can't enforce their own local ordinances without criticism from the Sanders campaign. George II Jun 2016 #14
The paranoia and rot come straight from the top of the Sanders campaign alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #15
So, Sanders camp did not know the rules, then sent out nasty emails. Shame on them! riversedge Jun 2016 #17
Not only did the Sanders campaign not want to follow the rules justiceischeap Jun 2016 #20
Hope a high profile Sanders supporter from Loz Felix et al. runs against this obvious Tool. stuffmatters Jun 2016 #21
David Ryu Beat The Establishment Candidate To Win... TomCADem Jun 2016 #22

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. There was no ticketing and no traffic congestion at the Sanders event at the coliseum.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:49 AM
Jun 2016

Ryu was just making trouble.

Clinton has a reputation for being spiteful. This was just another proof of that fact.

I rode public transportation to the event at the coliseum as did many, many other attendees. And we didn't need tickets. Sanders' supporters are an unusually peaceful bunch. You can see a picture of the huge crowd at the coliseum waiting in line for what seemed like hours peacefully and with no rowdiness or problems.

Ryu was just making trouble.

He cost Hillary a lot of votes and caused her a lot of trouble, but somehow I and probably most other Los Angeles supporters of Bernie will blame Hillary and rightfully so from what I have heard from people who know what goes on.

Shame on Ryu.

msongs

(67,381 posts)
3. nobody at that scene was voting for hillary anyway, I doubt she lost any votes over it and why
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:57 AM
Jun 2016

would you blame HEr. got any proof she even knew about it in advance?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. Proof rests on the claimant.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:53 AM
Jun 2016

Just because you're dealing with someone who doesn't actually give a fuck doesn't mean you should abandon standards of logical argument

HeartoftheMidwest

(309 posts)
7. She had an event on Monday?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:47 AM
Jun 2016

I thought she had planned on being in New Jersey at this time, and scrapped those plans at the last minute to head back to California?
Or had she planned to be in New Jersey, and then head back to Cali on Monday??

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
9. Who really knows?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:55 AM
Jun 2016

It's HRC. I really wouldn't know who to believe.....

Now with Bernie, that's quite a different story. The truth shall set you free.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
18. Are You From CA? The Greek Theater and LA Coliseum Are Totally Different Locations
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jun 2016

The Coliseum is next to both the 110 Fwy and 10 Fwy with multiple roads leading to it. The LA Coliseum has hosted both the Olympics and the Super Bowl. The Greek Theater is in the middle of Griffith Park and can only be accessed through Vermont Ave, which significantly narrows as you approach the theater with roads that run through residential areas. Comparing the Coliseum and the Greek Theater is like comparing a Walmart to a 7-11. I personally think that Coliseum was the first option with the Greek as a fall back given that the Greek would be a huge pain to get to, particularly if Sanders drew a big crowd.

skylucy

(3,737 posts)
23. I agree. The Greek Theater is in a very unique location...It is virtually in the middle of a
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jun 2016

residential area. I can certainly understand why anyone planning an event at the Greek Theater would need to follow their rules etc.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
24. I'm from LA. I† is relativxely easy for me to get to the Coliseum, but the Greek Theater was
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 12:08 AM
Jun 2016

announced as the location for the event and the location had to be changed due to objections from a member of the City Council.

HeartoftheMidwest

(309 posts)
8. Actually, that's not what the experts are saying.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:49 AM
Jun 2016

Statisticians and mathematicians and those that study election integrity are saying there are statistical anomalies in the primary election results on the Democratic side. I tend to listen to the scientists and experts in their fields, more than I listen to the bloviators.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
10. Not a conspiracy
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 07:58 AM
Jun 2016

It's not a conspiracy. It's just corrupt - the media and the political system. You are being taken down a road to nowhere with lies and deception. Good luck with that.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
19. Bernie Is Starting to Sound Like Trump Attacking The Judge In His Case
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jun 2016

David Ryu is the first Korean American elected to the Los Angeles City Council and he campaigned specifically to address his constituents concerns about how the Greek Theater was run. Yet, Bernie's campaign is calling a city councilman corrupt just because he supported Hillary.

Trump is calling the judge in his case biased because he is a member of a Hispanic bar association.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
12. Hillary supporters are alienating more and more
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:39 AM
Jun 2016

good people.

So many of her people are unscrupulous and appear to represent the anti-Democratic candidate.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
13. The Greek Theater In Griffith Park Has Longstanding Traffic Issues
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:20 PM
Jun 2016

I think the Bernie campaign was holding out trying to secure the Los Angeles Coliseum (which they did), which is more easily freeway accessible and has ample parking, but just decided to throw the first Korean American Los Angeles City Council member under the bus for political reasons. Bernie is pushing this narrative that he is being persecuted by a vast left of center conspiracy, and rather than simply say that got the bigger venue they were holding out for, they decided to take a potshot a local elected leader who was known to support Hillary Clinton.

As noted in the article, late Friday, hundreds of staff were on standby waiting for the Sanders campaign to submit a traffic study, but were told at the last minute that they actually had a bigger venue.

It would be interesting to see when Sanders had begun efforts to try to secure the Los Angeles Coliseum location, because I would think that it was the preferred location since it is bigger and more accessible. If Bernie did the Greek theater, he could get boxed in on the single road in and out of the park near the theater.

Put another way, if you are not from the area, take a look at a map. The Greek has had longstanding traffic issues, and Bernie was trying to book an event in three-days time on a Sunday.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. The paranoia and rot come straight from the top of the Sanders campaign
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jun 2016

Is there any adversity too small for the Sanders campaign to not construct elaborate conspiracy nonsense out of?

riversedge

(70,173 posts)
17. So, Sanders camp did not know the rules, then sent out nasty emails. Shame on them!
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jun 2016



.......................A campaign staffer was more explicit in an email sent directly to the Greek, saying that Councilman David Ryu, who represents the Greek and the surrounding neighborhood, had set up “roadblocks” that caused the venue to be changed. Ryu has endorsed Clinton and attended a fundraiser for her last month in Koreatown.

Ryu spokesman Estevan Montemayor called those messages “an inaccurate depiction of the last 24 hours” — saying the councilman’s office had been trying to help the campaign stage a successful event. Sanders’ campaign did not have a ticketing system or a plan for addressing traffic congestion, which is required of every group that holds a rally or concert at the Greek, Montemayor said.

“Any person or organization that chooses to have an event at the Greek Theatre needs to follow all the same guidelines,” Montemayor said. “The Sanders campaign was asked to work with L.A. city staff on a traffic mitigation plan and a ticketing system, just as the Clinton campaign has done for their event on Monday evening. The Sanders campaign chose not to move forward.”............


“We were working with them on the language to include on their free tickets that people could download from their website,” Colwell said. “That conversation continued until Friday morning, and they ultimately never called us back.”

Colwell finally emailed the campaign Friday afternoon, saying she had hundreds of staff members on hold and needed an answer by 3:30 p.m. Minutes later, a campaign staffer responded that Sanders had changed venues.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
20. Not only did the Sanders campaign not want to follow the rules
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:10 PM
Jun 2016

but they made hundreds of staff members sit around all day, getting paid to do nothing on Sanders behalf because they (Sanders campaign staff) were too inept/lazy/privileged to get back to the Greek in a timely manner. Sounds about par for the course from what we've been seeing out of his campaign staff. It also sounds like something someone would do to manufacture controversy for their candidate.

And for you Sanders supporters who think his staff wouldn't do something like that, don't think his staff are "pristine." At this level of politics, no one is "pristine" and without some skeleton in their closets--from the candidate down to the people running their campaign. They are all corrupted at some level.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
22. David Ryu Beat The Establishment Candidate To Win...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jun 2016

...and has worked very hard to be responsive to his constituent's concerns. But, of course, because he did not role over on Bernie's demand for access to the Greek Theater without having a traffic report, the Sanders campaign decided to light him as "an obvious tool."

http://www.losfelizledger.com/article/ryus-motions-a-varied-menu/

os Angeles City Councilmember David Ryu has authored a flurry of motions—hitting on a variety of themes—since late last year, everything from those dealing with animals to the city’s current number one high profile issue: homelessness, where he is asking the city to investigate creating a single call-in telephone number to report homelessness.

“We want to use 311 as the go to phone number,” said Ryu spokesperson Estevan Montemayor, “if there are any issues regarding homeless situations and providing services. Right now there is not a go to place to report those situations.”

That high profile motion is in response to growing homelessness throughout Los Angeles and especially in parts of Ryu’s Council District 4, specifically in and around the Los Feliz Village area.

Another of Ryu’s motions asks that the city investigate the use of alternative materials, such as recycled tires, to repair Los Angeles’ buckling sidewalks, which he said can be used more cheaply than traditional materials.
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