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Eugene

(61,819 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:19 PM Jun 2016

(Baltimore) Officer Facing Murder in Prisoner Death Opts for Bench Trial

Source: Associated Press

The Baltimore police officer facing the most serious charge stemming from the death of a 25-year-old black man whose neck was broken in the back of a transport wagon waived his right to a jury trial on Monday, instead opting to place his fate in the hands of a judge.

Officer Caesar Goodson, 46, faces second-degree "depraved-heart" murder, manslaughter, assault, misconduct in office and reckless endangerment charges stemming from Freddie Gray's death on April 19, 2015. Gray died a week after he suffered a critical spinal injury in the back of Goodson's transport wagon.

Goodson opted to have his case heard by a judge rather than a jury at a motions hearing Monday before Baltimore Circuit Judge Barry Williams.

Opening statements are scheduled to begin Thursday morning.

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Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/officer-facing-murder-prisoner-death-opts-bench-trial-39646051



By JULIET LINDERMAN, ASSOCIATED PRESS BALTIMORE — Jun 6, 2016, 1:02 PM ET
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(Baltimore) Officer Facing Murder in Prisoner Death Opts for Bench Trial (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2016 OP
Not surprised leftynyc Jun 2016 #1
Smart move melm00se Jun 2016 #2
Agree and disagree. lark Jun 2016 #3
responses in this thread melm00se Jun 2016 #5
That's sadly common here, people never seem to care Lurks Often Jun 2016 #6
Here's a link to the thread about Edward Nero's acquittal. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2016 #7
Seems you may have a bias for the cop? lark Jun 2016 #9
No melm00se Jun 2016 #11
Isn't is the normal American idea that if the cops arrested you that you must be guilty? Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #10
You might want to hope if you get arrested melm00se Jun 2016 #13
And they do everything in their power to destroy your rights to begin with Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #14
Judges are less likely to exonerate than juries, actually. joshcryer Jun 2016 #12
But this judge thoroughly dressed down the prosecution arguments Calista241 Jun 2016 #17
Judges are part of the same corrupt criminal justice system. Watch this murderer walk because Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #4
He's going to walk because he didn't do anything to Calista241 Jun 2016 #8
Goodson was the driver so we are Angel Martin Jun 2016 #15
I doubt GPS is accurate enough to determine that. Calista241 Jun 2016 #16
what you are looking for is speed, rapid changes of direction Angel Martin Jun 2016 #18
I stand corrected. Thank you for the insight. n/t Calista241 Jun 2016 #19
There is no possible "innocent" explanation for why the guy's spine got shattered while in custody alarimer Jun 2016 #20

melm00se

(4,986 posts)
2. Smart move
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jun 2016

a judge is less likely to get swayed by public opinion/news reports and rule based upon the evidence provided.

lark

(23,065 posts)
3. Agree and disagree.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jun 2016

I agree it was a smart (i.e. self serving) move. I disagree in that a judge is more likely to be biased towards the police and against the guy arrested.

melm00se

(4,986 posts)
5. responses in this thread
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jun 2016

show exactly why he elected for a bench trial.

the comments all show a clear indicator that the poster feels that the officer in question is guilty.

No chance for the accused to raise a defense, question the witnesses and evidence.

just BANG he's guilty.



 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
6. That's sadly common here, people never seem to care
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jun 2016

hearing all of the evidence or about the defendant getting a fair trial. It always seems to be all about the outrage and believing the initial reports, which are so often wrong.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,312 posts)
7. Here's a link to the thread about Edward Nero's acquittal.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jun 2016
Officer Acquitted in Freddie Grey Case

and here's what I said at the time:

There was a high-profile murder trial recently in my fair city.

It generated many newspaper articles, both before and after a suspect had been arrested. Following the arrest of the suspect, his picture appeared often, in print and on television. With that, the newspaper commenters were off to the races.

"No need for a trial; execute him now," was pretty much the call of the mob. Even highly educated people got in on the act.

So many commenters decided that the individual who had been arrested was guilty, based solely on their impressions made through his appearance, and without hearing a word of testimony or seeing a single piece of evidence, that you'd think you were at DU.

After reading those comments, I decided that if I were ever charged with a crime that could lead to a trial by jury in northern Virginia, I would opt for a non-jury trial instead. At least a judge would - I hope - be better learned in the ways of jurisprudence.

Comments to newspaper articles have put the lie to the dream of a trial by your peers. Sorry; Twelve Angry Men is a myth anymore.

lark

(23,065 posts)
9. Seems you may have a bias for the cop?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:48 PM
Jun 2016

I didn't say he was guilty, just that judges often side with the police. That's just a fact, not a pre-judgement.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
10. Isn't is the normal American idea that if the cops arrested you that you must be guilty?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jun 2016

After all, the cops NEVER arrest innocent people.

And yes, the motherfucker is guilty. Make an example out of this turd on how to treat your fellow humans with respect and dignity, even if they are under arrest. Police pigs need to be held to a much higher standard of conduct.

If you argue, I will not respond. Nothing you can say will make me change my mind. The police have declared war on Americans. Time for Americans to return the favor.

My wife said Chinese cops are useless, but American cops are dangerous, then asked me which I preferred. I said useless is always better than dangerous.

melm00se

(4,986 posts)
13. You might want to hope if you get arrested
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jun 2016

you don't get someone like you on the jury

By declaring him guilty, you have completely stripped him from his 5th and 6th amendment rights.

He doesn't get to:

-Confront his accusers
-Challenge the evidence
-Mount any sort of defense
-Have the evidence (both for the prosecution and the defense) evaluated impartially

But seeing you have some sort of omniscient view of all aspects of the alleged crime, I guess that gives you a pass.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
14. And they do everything in their power to destroy your rights to begin with
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:43 PM
Jun 2016

good for goose, good for gander.

And since you are a snarky person, I will no longer respond to you.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
17. But this judge thoroughly dressed down the prosecution arguments
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:45 PM
Jun 2016

In the 2nd trial. And the emotion is on the side of the state in this case.

The defense believes the law is on their side, and judging from the judges opinion in the 2nd trial, the prosecution is facing an uphill battle.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
4. Judges are part of the same corrupt criminal justice system. Watch this murderer walk because
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jun 2016

he has a badge.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
8. He's going to walk because he didn't do anything to
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jun 2016

intentionally cause the death of Freddie Gray.

The defense lawyer, at the end of the day, is going to get up there and say that if Freddie Gray hadn't have tried to stand up while handcuffed in the back of a moving vehicle, he'd be alive today.

Is that bullshit? Maybe. Was it an intentional "rough ride". Maybe.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
15. Goodson was the driver so we are
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jun 2016

going to find out about the "nickel ride" or not in this trial.

Early on when the prosecutions were announced, police sources claimed that there was gps on the wagon and that would prove that there was no wild ride.

we will see.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
16. I doubt GPS is accurate enough to determine that.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jun 2016

Civilian GPS technology is supposedly accurate to within 25 meters. 25 meters is more than the width of a road.

We'll see anyway.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
18. what you are looking for is speed, rapid changes of direction
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jun 2016

and acceleration etc

GPS in company vehicles has been used in trials to prove dangerous driving etc

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
20. There is no possible "innocent" explanation for why the guy's spine got shattered while in custody
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jun 2016

None whatsoever. It was not an "accident". It was fucking police brutality, even if it wasn't "intentional". I'm sure all they wanted was to scare the piss out of him, but they killed him. Fucking asshole cops. They are all going to skate. Somebody needs to pay for this.

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