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SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:16 AM Jun 2016

After Months of Requests, Mugshots of Stanford Rapist Brock Turner Finally Emerge

Source: nbcnews.com

It was the epitome of white privilege, the narrative went — a student and star swimmer at prestigious Stanford University is arrested on rape-related charges, and after more than 16 months, he's sentenced to only six months.

And the authorities refuse to let the public see his arrest photo.

Until Monday...

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/after-months-requests-mugshots-stanford-rapist-brock-turner-finally-emerge-n586936



Fucking, what? An arrest 16 moths ago, and the police refused to release a booking photo? I never knew this until today. Such bullshit. This kid wasn't rich. But, he's white as hell. I'd say that was central to the cops' decision not to release the photo. I'm writing the Cali Attorney General's office and my local Assembly rep to complain about this. Mug shots are public records. It should have been available for download within an hour of being taken.

Why deprive us of a portrait of such a pretty white boy? <sarcasm>
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After Months of Requests, Mugshots of Stanford Rapist Brock Turner Finally Emerge (Original Post) SpankMe Jun 2016 OP
Money. silverweb Jun 2016 #1
Mug shots are public record. Why did Stanford have anything to say about it at all? AtheistCrusader Jun 2016 #9
Good question. silverweb Jun 2016 #10
Dad appears to have middle-management civilian job with the Air Force. I'm sure he does fine but TacoD Jun 2016 #44
A classic case of white privilege brush Jun 2016 #51
White MALE privilege. whathehell Jun 2016 #52
Correct. brush Jun 2016 #66
Unless MosheFeingold Jun 2016 #72
So an actual sex criminal gets practically off the hook for a real sex crime... Initech Jun 2016 #2
It appears that his privilege is based on more on being a Stanford alum, an athlete and male avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #3
So this is a case of one Frat Judge protecting a Frat Brother? d_legendary1 Jun 2016 #19
In addition, a number of black football players at Baylor have gotten away with raping white coeds Doctor_J Jun 2016 #26
Yep. The great divide is male, alpha BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #27
That gif! ha ha ha eom LittleGirl Jun 2016 #34
... BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #40
As John Lennon said woman is the n***** of the world. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #50
Yes.. whathehell Jun 2016 #54
It's true. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #68
Well at least one didn't get away with it TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #39
FWIW, a recall effort to remove the dumbass judge has begun.. whathehell Jun 2016 #58
Yup. I already signed. N/t TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #60
Lots of MALE privilege.. whathehell Jun 2016 #53
Anyone care to hazard a guess as to how many geologic ages of prison Aristus Jun 2016 #4
+ Wanna guess how quick it would have been after the arrest that his mug shot would have Person 2713 Jun 2016 #6
Down here in Georgia they post the mug shots on the web, immediately. n2doc Jun 2016 #8
Common for the area read below .. Multiple requests . The crime was 16 months ago they substituted Person 2713 Jun 2016 #11
Yeah, sometimes you see mugshots before you even hear the story!! 7962 Jun 2016 #24
Don't bother with the guess LadyHawkAZ Jun 2016 #21
What does his Daddy do? redstatebluegirl Jun 2016 #5
He is a civilian "deputy branch chief" at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base TacoD Jun 2016 #31
Puke. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #42
A face badly in need of a fist if there ever was one. smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #61
There wouldn't even be a booking photo if he wasn't caught in the act of raping her. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #7
it is only the first time he has been caught. niyad Jun 2016 #12
Yep. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #15
As expected, news just came out of his prior assault(s)... SunSeeker Jun 2016 #73
Lucky for her two good Samaritans happened to be in the right place BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #28
Well said. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #29
SHE is brilliant, too. And BRAVER than most men could ever IMAGINE being. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #33
Her Statement should be required reading in high school sex ed classes. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #36
Should be required reading here! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #41
Indeed. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #46
Beautifully said, Blanche! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #48
thank you BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #49
Preach it, sister. truebluegreen Jun 2016 #57
Thanks! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #69
"She towered over the violence of the perpetrator AND the system, with the might of her words" demmiblue Jun 2016 #59
Thanks! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #70
She couldn't have. Igel Jun 2016 #37
Thank you, nice point BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #45
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #38
FUCKING HELL YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #43
I have a feeling the pig did this before, yes. n/t whathehell Jun 2016 #55
Your intuition is correct. In today's news: SunSeeker Jun 2016 #74
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #13
The problem is forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #16
I really don't understand what is wrong with people like you La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #17
Well I cant respond to a blocked post, but DAMN, what the hell???? 7962 Jun 2016 #23
"Maybe she will learn something". whathehell Jun 2016 #56
Holy shit--please tell me that I misread that disgusting fucking post! Orrex Jun 2016 #30
She could have been in a diabetic coma and he would have still raped her. Lars39 Jun 2016 #18
maybe SHE could learn from this???? are you ******* KIDDING? SHE could learn?? did you niyad Jun 2016 #20
Hasn't this poor little swimmer been through enough already? Orrex Jun 2016 #32
sadly, I was only surprised that it took so long for that mindset to show up. niyad Jun 2016 #65
IMO that hidden post should result in a PPR Orrex Jun 2016 #67
Don't worry, Brock Turner's high-priced attorney would have made you proud. SunSeeker Jun 2016 #22
Wealthy Privledge dbackjon Jun 2016 #14
Lets see how well this douchebag does in the slammer. nt 7962 Jun 2016 #25
Yeah, I've never heard of this before, aside from maybe some juvenile cases... Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #35
I'm surprised they couldn't withhold the photos until after the election. ;) ripcord Jun 2016 #47
Here's the mugshot from the night of his arrest justiceischeap Jun 2016 #62
they both look pretty suspect Skittles Jun 2016 #63
Sick looking pos rockfordfile Jun 2016 #75
I wonder if they're both mugshots... CincyDem Jun 2016 #76
Maybe they didn't want to upset the parents. flvegan Jun 2016 #64
I've lurked for a while... Sand Rat Expat Jun 2016 #71

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
1. Money.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:44 AM
Jun 2016

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Daddy probably threatened to withhold an endowment or large donation if they let the pictures out.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
10. Good question.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:34 AM
Jun 2016

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]The only answer I can think of would be family influence (i.e., money) and friends in high places.

TacoD

(581 posts)
44. Dad appears to have middle-management civilian job with the Air Force. I'm sure he does fine but
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jun 2016

it doesn't appear that he is as wealthy as one might suspect. I think reply #3 has it right.

brush

(53,776 posts)
51. A classic case of white privilege
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jun 2016

No denying it. A POC committing those crimes would never see the light of day again.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
52. White MALE privilege.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jun 2016

The rape victim doesn't seem to have gotten much 'privilege" throughout this.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
72. Unless
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jun 2016

He was a sports star, you mean.

With some noted exceptions, they seem to get a pass, regardless of race.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
2. So an actual sex criminal gets practically off the hook for a real sex crime...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:51 AM
Jun 2016

While the fundies feel the need to continue to harass trans people in the bathrooms and locker rooms because of perceived sex crimes. What is wrong with this picture?

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
3. It appears that his privilege is based on more on being a Stanford alum, an athlete and male
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:52 AM
Jun 2016

the same as the judge.

The decision not to publish the photo does not appear to be because he is white, remember the victim is in this case is also white.

Curious as to what proof has surfaced that this criminals family is not rich?


d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
19. So this is a case of one Frat Judge protecting a Frat Brother?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jun 2016

Knowing the secret hand shake has its perks it seems.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
26. In addition, a number of black football players at Baylor have gotten away with raping white coeds
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jun 2016

So this Stanford incident has little to do with race and a lot to do with celebrity privilege (OJ)

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
27. Yep. The great divide is male, alpha
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:48 PM
Jun 2016

Vs. Female.
Which, in this society always means Not-alpha.

i.e. Garbage.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
68. It's true.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jun 2016

Seems so obvious to me, I don't understand why it's denied and enabled more than even racism is.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
39. Well at least one didn't get away with it
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jun 2016

The problem was that the player wasn't suspended for a single game even though he was accused of 6 rapes over 3 years time. He was eventually tried and convicted and got 20 years.

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
4. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to how many geologic ages of prison
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jun 2016

this asshole would have been sentenced to if he had been black?

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
6. + Wanna guess how quick it would have been after the arrest that his mug shot would have
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:19 AM
Jun 2016

been available to the public if he had been black?

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
8. Down here in Georgia they post the mug shots on the web, immediately.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jun 2016

I don't know if that is common or not elsewhere.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
11. Common for the area read below .. Multiple requests . The crime was 16 months ago they substituted
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:37 AM
Jun 2016

a picture of him in a suit with short hair
Typically, officials make criminal mugshots easily available online or through public request, following protocol to keep courts as transparent and open as possible.
Not in this case.
Turner was initially arrested by the Stanford Department of Public Safety in January, 2015. The SDPS, however, runs under the jurisdiction of the Santa Clara Sheriff’s Department — but that didn’t help in obtaining any records related to his arrest. When journalists requested the mugshot, officials at SDPS said that SCSD was responsible for sharing the photo. But SCSD said SDPS was responsible to releasing the mugshot. The sheriff’s department first turned in a mugshot taken at last week’s sentencing trial. He appears to be dressed in a suit.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
7. There wouldn't even be a booking photo if he wasn't caught in the act of raping her.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jun 2016

But for the fact that two Swedish students happened to ride by on their bicycles and saw Brock Turner pounding away at what looked like a lifeless woman behind a dumpster --- and then chased him down as he tried to run away, this would have been another unreported/unsolved rape.

Does anyone think this is the first time Brock Turner did anything like this?

niyad

(113,284 posts)
12. it is only the first time he has been caught.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jun 2016

and, considering daddy's letter, thinking it runs in the family.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
28. Lucky for her two good Samaritans happened to be in the right place
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jun 2016

When she needed them.

I want to puke at the people making this about race.

At the heart of it all, it's about what men can get away with doing to women. If the two men hadn't helped and WITNESSED, does anyone think SHE would have even been able to get the guy to court?

The central issue is women are routinely devalued, disbelieved, discarded. Collateral damage, no matter what their promising future and years of hard work might have looked like.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
33. SHE is brilliant, too. And BRAVER than most men could ever IMAGINE being.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jun 2016

She didn't triumph courageously over bad guys, with her broad shoulders and well developed biceps.

No. She was overpowered and taken to the depths by a privileged little psychopath whose dick endowed him with a long list of favors, mentors, buddies, supporters, and opportunities on a silver platter.

But even so, in a society that blames women for everything that men commit upon us, that routinely rips off women so that men may not have to feel the consequences of their actions, that forces women to live with the damage done them by unrepentant men, that cannot even imagine empathizing with the resulting long-term trauma and re-victimization that millions upon millions of women suffer for the sins of men----

----this woman stared directly into the cold eyes of heartlessness and eloquently stood her ground. For her own sake AND for every woman who is abused by men and then tossed aside as if she were garbage.

She towered over the violence of the perpetrator AND the system, with the might of her words

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
69. Thanks!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jun 2016

I wasn't expecting that much eloquence to come out of me! Every now and then, I get it right.

...and this case reaaallllllllly infuriates me.

It's such an example of what women face, only the story is so rarely brought to anyone's attention, let alone the WORLD'S.

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
59. "She towered over the violence of the perpetrator AND the system, with the might of her words"
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jun 2016

Thank you for expressing it so well... that last sentence gave me the chills.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
70. Thanks!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jun 2016

I'm glad it hit where it's supposed to.

I was searching for the right words, and that saying, "the pen is mightier than the sword" came to mind.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
37. She couldn't have.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jun 2016

By her own admission, she didn't remember any of it. From a while before the assault to when she regained memory in the hospital she says it's a blank.

That leaves forensic evidence and the two passers-by as the case against him.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
45. Thank you, nice point
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jun 2016

But not germane to the premise of the post.

"I want to puke at the people making this about race.

At the heart of it all, it's about what men can get away with doing to women. If the two men hadn't helped and WITNESSED, does anyone think SHE would have even been able to get the guy to court?

The central issue is women are routinely devalued, disbelieved, discarded. Collateral damage, no matter what their promising future and years of hard work might have looked like."

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
38. +1000
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jun 2016

I know! Grr!

However, the only way to get any men on this board to pay any attention to a rape thread is to make it about race. They will come out swinging for the racial minority, but could give a shit about the female victim of the crime.

Otherwise, rape threads sink like a stone w/ the exception of a few female and some decent male posters here at DU.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
43. FUCKING HELL YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jun 2016

Misogyny....

... The most progressive dudes will routinely claim to be enlightened, while thoroughly engaging in sexism and rape culture.

Response to SpankMe (Original post)

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
16. The problem is
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

The INSTANT you get into that narrative it takes the focus off the HUMAN AGENCY OF THE RAPIST who made a conscious CHOICE and CHOSE TO RAPE. No matter what risky behavior the victim engages in, the focus of this is that a human being used his agency and free will to rape another human being.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
23. Well I cant respond to a blocked post, but DAMN, what the hell????
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:09 PM
Jun 2016

I hope that poster doesnt have daughters.....

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
30. Holy shit--please tell me that I misread that disgusting fucking post!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jun 2016

It's hidden now, so I can't reply to it, but seriously what the fuck?!?

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
18. She could have been in a diabetic coma and he would have still raped her.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jun 2016

His humane duty was to check if she needed medical assistance. He chose to commit a crime.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
20. maybe SHE could learn from this???? are you ******* KIDDING? SHE could learn?? did you
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jun 2016

even bother to read her letter? blaming the victim is disgusting, and please do not say you aren't, because that is exactly what you are doing.

how about blaming the RAPIST? maybe HE could learn something.

wow. . . just. . . . wow.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
32. Hasn't this poor little swimmer been through enough already?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jun 2016

You're asking him to learn something from 20 minutes of action? He's probably traumatized by this lascivious unconscious woman who had the raw effrontery to be raped by him. Let's not forget that he's the real victim here!


Just when I think that maybe we've gotten past the "she was asking for it" mindset, some troglodyte steps forth to reveal that this mode of sick thinking is alive and well.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
65. sadly, I was only surprised that it took so long for that mindset to show up.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jun 2016

how could I forget--his life will never be the same. I mean, he doesn't even eat steaks anymore.

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
67. IMO that hidden post should result in a PPR
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:40 PM
Jun 2016

There's "hides" and then there's "hides," and that one was way over the top.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
22. Don't worry, Brock Turner's high-priced attorney would have made you proud.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jun 2016

I suggest you read the statement she gave in court if you feel she was not "criticised" enough or did not "learn from this."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-letter-the-stanford-victim-read-to-her-ra?utm_term=.toXPEmYD4m#.cg7N0L5AzL

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
35. Yeah, I've never heard of this before, aside from maybe some juvenile cases...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

The system bent over backwards to protect him, didn't they?

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
62. Here's the mugshot from the night of his arrest
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jun 2016

it was released by Campus police:



This is the mugshot the Sheriff's dept released:



Even after being found guilty, the police still decide to release a mugshot that makes him NOT look like a criminal.

CincyDem

(6,355 posts)
76. I wonder if they're both mugshots...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:42 AM
Jun 2016


The previously unreleased mugshot for this crime - yeah, he's got that deer in headlights look that says "f*ck...how did I get caught".

The second one (with the jacket) - it kind of looks like a mugshot to me, maybe from a former booking on some other charge ?

It's consistent with reports that he's been a predator in training for a while.

flvegan

(64,407 posts)
64. Maybe they didn't want to upset the parents.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jun 2016

January 2015, they had just closed on their new home. Quiet little cul-de-sac it appears, I'm sure. Perfect place to reflect on raising a no-good rapist.

Sand Rat Expat

(290 posts)
71. I've lurked for a while...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jun 2016

And I made an account just to comment on this thread. I read this thread on my way home, and from there I read the statement the victim wrote. The feelings of outrage, fury, sorrow, and compassion made me want to cry and made me want to get in my two cents.

To Brock Turner, I have this to say: You are a monster. Here are my wishes for you. May you live long... but not in good health. And when you die, may your first day in Hell last ten thousand years... and may it be the shortest.

To the lady (and the far too many like her), I have this to say: My wish for you is that in time you will find joy and peace again, that you will know that you are beautiful and no one can change that, and that you will realize that you are unbreakable, and stronger than the vast majority of people can even imagine being.

To those fighting for this beautiful woman and all those like her, never give up and keep fighting the good fight against sexual violence and rape culture. To the two men who saved this young lady's life in particular, you are heroes.

And to those excusing and enabling the violence against this brave woman and all those like her... see my wishes for Brock Turner.

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