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Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:56 PM

Sanders Supporters Cry Foul over Clinton's Suspicious "Secret Win" Email

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Source: CommonDreams by Staff

The image files appear to have been created by the Clinton campaign over the weekend, well before the AP declared Clinton the party winner. Twitter blew up on Tuesday after it was revealed that an email sent to Hillary Clinton supporters—one celebrating Monday's premature nomination call—contained an image labeled "secret win."

Furthermore, based on the individual urls of the images, the files (here and here) appear to have been created by the Clinton campaign over the weekend, well before the AP controversially declared that Clinton had secured the Democratic Party nomination on the basis of superdelegate "commitments."

For example, the piece of the image that reads "So this just happened" is dated Saturday, June 4.

The revelations added to the call for AP to retract its declaration, which came ahead of seven remaining presidential primaries and was based on a misleading delegate count.



Read more: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/07/sanders-supporters-cry-foul-over-clintons-suspicious-secret-win-email

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Reply Sanders Supporters Cry Foul over Clinton's Suspicious "Secret Win" Email (Original post)
kadaholo Jun 2016 OP
msongs Jun 2016 #1
JimDandy Jun 2016 #4
OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #28
JimDandy Jun 2016 #30
notadmblnd Jun 2016 #65
forest444 Jun 2016 #29
drokhole Jun 2016 #39
JimDandy Jun 2016 #42
SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #58
Beartracks Jun 2016 #67
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #53
phazed0 Jun 2016 #15
NJCher Jun 2016 #24
JimDandy Jun 2016 #2
840high Jun 2016 #34
GoneFishin Jun 2016 #52
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #55
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #3
stopbush Jun 2016 #23
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #26
Plucketeer Jun 2016 #5
pangaia Jun 2016 #14
NJCher Jun 2016 #31
840high Jun 2016 #38
Hoyt Jun 2016 #6
cstanleytech Jun 2016 #18
Kingofalldems Jun 2016 #7
libodem Jun 2016 #8
Awknid Jun 2016 #12
dhill926 Jun 2016 #41
Skittles Jun 2016 #44
pangaia Jun 2016 #16
libodem Jun 2016 #49
onehandle Jun 2016 #9
GummyBearz Jun 2016 #66
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #10
Name removed Jun 2016 #11
Mohammed_Lee Jun 2016 #13
Jennylynn Jun 2016 #54
Hiraeth Jun 2016 #60
scottie55 Jun 2016 #17
Laser102 Jun 2016 #19
OwlinAZ Jun 2016 #36
Skittles Jun 2016 #47
pnwmom Jun 2016 #20
wyldwolf Jun 2016 #21
TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #35
wyldwolf Jun 2016 #40
johnp3907 Jun 2016 #22
midnight Jun 2016 #25
gwheezie Jun 2016 #27
NJCher Jun 2016 #33
WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2016 #48
intheflow Jun 2016 #32
Politicub Jun 2016 #37
FreeState Jun 2016 #43
drokhole Jun 2016 #62
drokhole Jun 2016 #45
anigbrowl Jun 2016 #63
MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #46
wisteria Jun 2016 #50
Tarc Jun 2016 #51
MFM008 Jun 2016 #56
SmittynMo Jun 2016 #57
liberal N proud Jun 2016 #59
Cryptoad Jun 2016 #61
humbled_opinion Jun 2016 #64

Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:58 PM

1. sanders supporters cry foul over allowing any votes for hillary to count at all nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:03 PM

4. Hillary=Win at all costs and then lie about what you did to win.

'Who? Lil ole me? Gosh, thanks AP, but I just want alllll the states to vote tomorrow'

It's been so obvious she was behind this "AP" superdelegates announcement. Most of you Clinton supporters are in serious denial about what she has been willing to do to win, and the rest have stated they simply don't care.

Yay, Democracy!

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:16 PM

28. But the so called news media will validate every crooked thing her campaign does.

 

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Response to OwlinAZ (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:19 PM

30. Not only validate, but actively participate in it. This is only the latest

instance of the media doing so.

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Response to OwlinAZ (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:29 PM

65. I prefer to call what she does- sleezy.

Because Hillary never actually breaks the law. She walks it right up to the fucking line or the law is vague enough to break- and if she gets away with it, fine. If not- then she's suddenly the stereotypical dumb blond who then feigns ignorance and innocence.

I can understand. I color my hair too. That way when I make decisions that have unpleasant repercussions, I can also assume the role.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:18 PM

29. The very same vice that led her to break State Dept./intelligence laws.

And which ultimately might cost her the presidency. Life is full of irony.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:27 PM

39. Suspiciously offered quite the opportunity to appear "magnanimous," no?

And so geniune and authentic!

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Response to drokhole (Reply #39)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:31 PM

42. That vomit emoticon really encapsulates her whole campaign

start to finish.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #42)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:58 PM

58. The vomit emoticon

Always represents an immature poster to me, no matter what cause they are promoting.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #58)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:34 PM

67. You need an "Ad Hominem" emoticon. n/t

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:54 PM

53. Unreal... but not surprising. Hillary's desperation is showing.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:44 PM

15. Ya, Hillary supporters blindly support candidate in spite of actions and evidence.

 

Mmmkay.

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:10 PM

24. address the issue

instead of posting generalities that add nothing to the discussion.


Cher

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:00 PM

2. Of course Hillary did. There was never a doubt in my mind Clinton engineered this whole thing.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:20 PM

34. She did.

 

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:52 PM

52. Yep. It has the same stink to it as the other dirty tricks. nt

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:55 PM

55. Has Hillary's fingerprints all over it... Bernie needs to shine the light of truth on Hillary's shenanigans.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:01 PM

3. Clinton campaign anticipated a victory email this week?

 

This should surprise no one who knows anything.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:10 PM

23. That's marketing - you get your materials ready ahead of time to drop at the most-opportune time.

I used to work at the BMG Record Club. We'd have a big blowout sale a couple of times a year - stick a bunch of high-inventory albums in a flyer, design it with a basic typewriter typeface, put it on cheap paper, make it a little blurry and call it "Last-minute Close-Out Sale!!!" Stick that in with a regular mailing to get people buying your overstock.

Of course, the whole thing was designed and ready to go 6 weeks before we put it in the mail.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #23)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:14 PM

26. yeah, do people think the people in charge of fundraising emails

 

were going to sit around until tonight and then say "holy cow, Hillary just declared victory--didn't see that coming! Maybe we should get an email out or something?"

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:03 PM

5. Ties in PERFECTLY with this...

 

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Response to Plucketeer (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:43 PM

14. That says it all right there.

Reminds me of when Shrub slipped and said in effect, "My job is to spread the propaganda."

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Response to pangaia (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:19 PM

31. catapult, I remember that

Just gotta' keep repeating and repeating THE TRUTH, he says:



Anyway, it's the the same old same old:



Man, has she got some stupid people working for her. They should have thought of that.


Cher

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Response to Plucketeer (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:24 PM

38. Arrogance in plain view.

 

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:08 PM

6. I can empathize when a beloved candidate loses, but the darn whining and accusations

have gotten really old.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:52 PM

18. True, whats sad is the number of partisan hacks that claim to support Bernie or Hillary

have made this a spiteful and nasty campaign when it need not be.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:14 PM

7. I am sure the republicans will be glad to investigate for you.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:18 PM

8. Having a difficult time

Not feeling disillusioned.


Kind of have expected she would eventually be the nominee, and wanted my bandaid ripped off slowly, maybe having it done with a quick rip, will let me heal faster.

Please, Goddess, help me resistant temptation to respond in kind to any, gloating, and spiteful retorhic and I told you so attitudes. Getting kicked when we are down makes me feel very defensive on behalf of other BS supporters. We will adjust. But do they need to start rubbing our noses in it so damn soon?

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Response to libodem (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:36 PM

12. That's the kind of people they are

They are as cruel as the Saudis and their ISIS bosses. They don't care because they own you! Hillary will never be president!

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Response to Awknid (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:29 PM

41. wow.......

really....

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:43 PM

44. the Hatred for Hillary Hysteria is in extreme overdrive now

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Response to libodem (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:45 PM

16. Let them kick all they want.

I don't give a shit. It makes them feel good.

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Response to pangaia (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:47 PM

49. You would think

There might be enough self awareness that they could see how mean they act.

Men and women are mean in different ways. Men are straight forward and blunt. Women are a lot more emotionally damaging with spite and vitriol. I can't fight with the mean girls. I'm not cut out for it.

Thick skin unite!

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:24 PM

9. IT'S A CONSPIRACY! nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:31 PM

66. Yep, a vast right wing conspiracy

 

Amazing she coined the term and 18 years later it has all come full circle

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:26 PM

10. Only if they haven't been paying attention.

The race was over tonight at the latest. It should surprise no one that one or both campaigns would be preparing accordingly.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:37 PM

13. was it dated 6/4/2015 or 2016? n/t

 

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Response to Mohammed_Lee (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:55 PM

54. 16 nt

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Response to Mohammed_Lee (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:12 PM

60. lol

the deal was probably struck in '15

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:46 PM

17. The Press Is Part Of The Clinton Campaign --- Duh

 

No news here.....

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:54 PM

19. Hillary had forty SD that were ready to declare but she asked them to wait until after California.

According to the AP conducting the polls of SDs, fourteen announced their decision. After that it was a sure bet that the math was done and they knew Hillary won. I doubt the AP was going to sit on it and allow someone else to break the story.

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Response to Laser102 (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:21 PM

36. uh-huh

 

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Response to Laser102 (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:45 PM

47. can't you see it HAS to be conspiracy, Laser102?

WHOEVER HEARD OF A NEWS ORGANIZATION WANTING TO BE FIRST WITH A BREAKING STORY?

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:00 PM

20. Of course they created an email since they knew they'd reach the # after N.J.

They also knew they can't control the press, but they should always be as prepared as possible.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:00 PM

21. Sanders Supporters Cry Foul over Hillary Clinton running for President.

HOW DARE SHE!!!

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #21)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:21 PM

35. ...running for the hills after indictments issued.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #35)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:27 PM

40. slipping back into the cracks in the walls after Hillary wins the general election

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:06 PM

22. "Sanders Supporters Cry."

Sure do.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:16 PM

27. Any good campaign would do that

But I quess some folks are still in amatuer hour

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:20 PM

33. how 'bout

changing the word "good" to "ruthless."

Any ruthless campaign would do that.


Cher

on edit: here's how you might use the term "good." Any good speller would know how to spell amateur."

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Response to gwheezie (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:46 PM

48. After the elections

the fight will continue, but that's in the future revolution.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:19 PM

32. kick.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:22 PM

37. That's just crazy

The presumptive nominee's campaign working on marketing pieces.

The nerve.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:40 PM

43. Wow you mean they created artwork before hand? Stop the presses!

As a graphic designer I would never do that! That just makes no sense at all. Why be prepared for what you can see coming a mile away?

Petty and stupid article.

PS - if I ran a campaign and the graphics weren't ready I'd fire people.

(Edit to add I voted today, for Bernie).

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Response to FreeState (Reply #43)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:27 PM

62. See response #45...

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:44 PM

45. To all the "well, duh...marketing!" folks, the issue seems to be they had the exact AP graphic...

...a full two days (June 4th) before the AP "broke"/tweeted the news (June 6th).

The prepped email (dated June 4th):



And the tweet (time stamped - Jun 6, 2016, 7:20:29 PM):

https://mobile.twitter.com/ap/status/739975278483656705

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Response to drokhole (Reply #45)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:28 PM

63. The originals are created in Photoshop

 

So you'd have one layer with the red frame, and then you'd drop a screen capture of the Twitter ad in the day-of. The filename is picked at the time you create the original file. There's no reason for it to change when you reopen it to drop in the screen capture image later, and then export as jpeg/png/whatever.

I often work on large projects with thousands of files, and see nothing unusual about this naming schema.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:44 PM

46. Sometimes you have to call people out for deception...

There's so much deception within David Brock, the Mickey Mouse Cheerleading Squad of legislators attending events and let us not forget... all related dots in the media...

“There are some frauds so well conducted that it would be stupidity not to be deceived by them.”
CHARLES CALEB COLTON

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:50 PM

50. Nothing wrong with raising campaign funds. Sander's is still trying to do so

 

By claiming some sort of magical road to the White House.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:51 PM

51. Common Dreams is becoming my favorite go-to for fantasy reading

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:56 PM

56. 9 days

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:56 PM

57. Stupid move

This will cost her millions of voters, which may in turn lose her the election. What a totally stupid move.

And she's trying to reach out to Bernie supporters? This was a big fuck up on her part.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:10 PM

59. Why does this not surprise me?

Maybe because this is standard Sanders Campaign practice.

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:16 PM

61. I can sleep better now that I know

that the Tea Party didn't get all the Bat Shit Crazies........

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Response to kadaholo (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:29 PM

64. The idea it seems is to supress votes

How Undemocratic of her and her followers that support this crap...

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