Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:25 PM Jun 2016

Israel approves new homes in East Jerusalem settlement

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by one_voice (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: aljazeera.com

Israeli authorities have approved building permits for 82 new homes in the illegal settlement of Ramat Shlomo, a neighbourhood near Shuafat in occupied East Jerusalem, an Israeli NGO has said.

"On Monday, June 6, the Jerusalem Local Planning and Building Committee approved two building permits for 82 housing units in Ramat Shlomo," Ir Amim, a group that opposes settlement construction, said in a statement on Tuesday.

The settlement, which already houses more than 15,000 Israeli Jews, lies in close proximity to the Palestinian neighbourhood of Shuafat.

The 82 units in two buildings are part of a larger scheme for expansion announced in 2010 to build an additional 1,600 new settler homes in the neighbourhood.

Read more: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/06/israel-approves-homes-east-jerusalem-settlement-160608044507701.html

33 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Israel approves new homes in East Jerusalem settlement (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 OP
New homes for Arabs? TexasProgresive Jun 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Jun 2016 #2
Maybe the Israelis should stop stealing Palestinian land. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Jun 2016 #7
If you were in the Palestinians' situation you would do the same thing they are. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #8
Cheering the murders and handing out sweets to children to celebrate ? Bonx Jun 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Jun 2016 #10
I am NOT defending the killing of innocent civilians... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #15
Oppressed populations often turn to extemists in desperation. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Jun 2016 #20
You don't get it. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Jun 2016 #29
I would kill people? You're sick. (and i hate the settlements by the way) HERVEPA Jun 2016 #31
Jury results pintobean Jun 2016 #11
People trying to censor critics of Israeli imperialism, what else is new? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #18
The majority of Israelis are immigrants and descendants of immigrants. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #24
I'm talking about the Mizrahi Jews who were in Palestine before the establishment of Israel... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Jun 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #30
So once stolen by Arabs, always stolen? MosheFeingold Jun 2016 #27
Never let the wounds heal MFM008 Jun 2016 #3
Israeli settlement expansion ‘root cause’ of growing violence in Occupied Palestinian Territories – askeptic Jun 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Jun 2016 #5
Agreed. The UN became a f'n joke as soon as it facilitated the establishment Purveyor Jun 2016 #12
6chars not knowing what he's talking about = effing joke askeptic Jun 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author 6chars Jun 2016 #26
Thank you. MosheFeingold Jun 2016 #32
Assholes Marrah_G Jun 2016 #23
Locking... one_voice Jun 2016 #33

TexasProgresive

(12,156 posts)
1. New homes for Arabs?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jun 2016

Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
6. Maybe the Israelis should stop stealing Palestinian land.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jun 2016

Response to Odin2005 (Reply #6)

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
8. If you were in the Palestinians' situation you would do the same thing they are.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jun 2016

Bonx

(2,053 posts)
9. Cheering the murders and handing out sweets to children to celebrate ?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:23 PM
Jun 2016

Nope.

Response to Odin2005 (Reply #8)

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
13. I am NOT defending the killing of innocent civilians...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jun 2016

...but just blindly denouncing these terrorists as if they are cartoon villains who like killing for the sake of killing rather than members of an oppressed population lashing out in fury and what they see as invaders stealing their land is just apologizing for Israeli colonialism.

Response to Odin2005 (Reply #13)

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
16. Oppressed populations often turn to extemists in desperation.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jun 2016

Response to Odin2005 (Reply #16)

Response to Odin2005 (Reply #13)

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
22. You don't get it.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jun 2016

Hamas would not exist were it not for the Israeli occupation of the West Bank.

Response to Odin2005 (Reply #22)

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
31. I would kill people? You're sick. (and i hate the settlements by the way)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jun 2016
 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
11. Jury results
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jun 2016

On Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:22 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Maybe the Israelis should stop stealing Palestinian land.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1481643

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Blaming the victims of terrorism is despicable and way over the top - innocent Jews were shot simply because they were Israelis and excusing their attackers is reprehensible.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:30 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seems to be an opinion. One that pro-Israeli people do not like and one that may not be possible to discuss. Not sure how anything gets discussed in I/P though. Don't think hiding every post one side finds objectionable is an answer though.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm not hiding a post just because I disagree with it. I/P is a contentious issue.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
14. People trying to censor critics of Israeli imperialism, what else is new?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jun 2016

Response to Odin2005 (Reply #14)

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
21. The majority of Israelis are immigrants and descendants of immigrants.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jun 2016

The Mizrahi Jews who were there before Zionist settlement are a minuscule minority.

And none of what you said justifies Israel's blatant stealing of Palestinian land in the West Bank for Israeli settlements.

Response to Odin2005 (Reply #21)

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
25. I'm talking about the Mizrahi Jews who were in Palestine before the establishment of Israel...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jun 2016

...not all Mizrahi Jews. Most Mizrahi Jews in Israel are folks expelled from other Middle-Eastern countries.

Response to Odin2005 (Reply #25)

Response to Odin2005 (Reply #25)

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
27. So once stolen by Arabs, always stolen?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jun 2016

Seriously, East Jerusalem was a mixed neighborhood for thousands of years -- until a pogrom in 1929 wherein Arab troops killed or expelled the Jewish families who had lived there for literally millennia.

Israel does lots of questionable things, but lying about "stealing Palestinian land" is not productive.

Must Spain, er, excuse me, Al-Andalus, cede land back to the Arabs that was reconquered during the middle ages?

How about Vienna?

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
3. Never let the wounds heal
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:19 PM
Jun 2016

Push push push.

askeptic

(478 posts)
4. Israeli settlement expansion ‘root cause’ of growing violence in Occupied Palestinian Territories –
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:24 PM
Jun 2016

according to the UN. Wordgames by Israeli talking heads and those who are blind to Israel's role notwithstanding

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=51597#.V1h9qZErLDc

10 August 2015 – A United Nations human rights committee has completed its annual evaluation of the situation affecting millions of people living in the Occupied Palestinian Territories and has cited Israel's policy of settlement expansion as a primary driver of the escalating violence in the area.

In a press release issued today to mark the end of its five-day fact-finding visit to Amman, Jordan, the UN Special Committee to investigate Israeli practices affecting the human rights of the Palestinian people and other Arabs of the occupied territories, said that a series of meetings with civil society groups and Palestinian officials had revealed that the “root cause” of the escalating violence in the Territories is “the continuing policy of settlement expansion and the climate of impunity relating to the activities of the settlers.”

Indeed, over the past weeks, tensions in the Territories between Israeli settlers and Palestinians have been further enflamed following a series of deadly incidents between the two groups. Most recently, in the village of Duma, an 18-month-old Palestinian baby died following the fire-bombing of the house by Israeli settlers. The father of the baby, who had sustained serious injuries in the attack, subsequently died on 8 August.

In addition to the violence, the Committee – represented by Amrith Rohan Perera, Permanent Representative of Sri Lanka to the UN in New York; Ramlan bin Ibrahim, Permanent Representative of Malaysia to the UN in New York; and Aboubacar Sadikh Barry, Minister Counselor, Permanent Mission of Senegal to the UN in Geneva – was also briefed “extensively” on what it described as “increasing human rights violations” on women and children through the repeated use of night raids and police dogs by Israeli authorities. The UN experts were told that many women were subjected to “humiliating treatment in the presence of their families” during these operations.

Response to askeptic (Reply #4)

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
12. Agreed. The UN became a f'n joke as soon as it facilitated the establishment
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jun 2016

of the state of israel in 1947.

askeptic

(478 posts)
17. 6chars not knowing what he's talking about = effing joke
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jun 2016

Did you even READ the article?

Israeli NGO announces approval of building permits for 82 new homes in illegal Jewish settlement near Shuafat area.

In a wave of violence since October, the Israeli army has killed at least 206 Palestinians, including protesters, bystanders and alleged attackers, while 33 Israelis have been killed in stabbing and shooting incidents.

So,, I guess if you owned some land and someone else decides to come and build a house on it, it's OK as long as there wasn't a house there previously?

Pointing out the truth about Israel's actions is not "hating Israel". The truth doesn't hate anything except lies...

Response to askeptic (Reply #17)

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
32. Thank you.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jun 2016

The willful ignorance regarding things Israeli is trying.

You would think this was a John Birch Society meeting, not a progressive group.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
23. Assholes
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:36 PM
Jun 2016

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
33. Locking...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jun 2016

it is the consensus of the hosts this doesn't meet SoP for LBN.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Israel approves new homes...