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QED

(2,747 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:25 PM Jun 2016

Stanford Sex Assault Convict Brock Turner Banned from USA Swimming for Life

Source: People Magazine

Brock Turner, the Stanford swimmer who was sentenced to six months in jail after being convicted of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman outside a fraternity party in 2015, has been banned for life by USA Swimming, the national governing body for competitive swimming in the United States.

USA Today reports that the 20-year-old is not currently a member of USA Swimming but had been prior to his membership expiring in 2014, and that the governing body said he would "not be eligible" should he apply again for membership.

"Had he been a member, he would be subject to the USA Swimming Code of Conduct," USA Swimming spokesperson Scott Leightman told the news outlet. "USA Swimming strictly prohibits and has zero tolerance for sexual misconduct, with firm Code of Conduct policies in place, and severe penalties, including a permanent ban of membership, for those who violate our Code of Conduct."

Read more: http://www.people.com/article/brock-turner-usa-swimming-lifetime-ban?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag

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Stanford Sex Assault Convict Brock Turner Banned from USA Swimming for Life (Original Post) QED Jun 2016 OP
k/r Dawson Leery Jun 2016 #1
Good Sherman A1 Jun 2016 #2
He's going to pay regardless of his length of sentence. 7962 Jun 2016 #3
He will have to register as a sex offender ONLY IF he loses appeals. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #11
Oh, he's gonna lose his appeals! After all THIS? he doesnt stand a chance nt 7962 Jun 2016 #13
Appeals seem to be based on procedure and other esoteric legal stuff ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #14
Trump would pardon him greiner3 Jun 2016 #32
But but but... CincyDem Jun 2016 #4
A lifetime ban in the US vs a lifetime of trauma MidwestTech Jun 2016 #7
Had he shown remorse elljay Jun 2016 #9
Yep. christx30 Jun 2016 #15
See? His father was right. Twenty minutes of "action" did disrupt his son's life. tclambert Jun 2016 #5
It would take LESS than twenty minutes to commit murder. maddiemom Jun 2016 #20
Rape culture calls Violent Rape "action". . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #30
FFS, America hates women. He s/b in prison for years. nt valerief Jun 2016 #6
Agreed. But at least US Swimming got it right. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #8
Yes, they got it right. maddiemom Jun 2016 #22
Recall campaign gains speed against judge in Stanford rape case passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #27
Because America hates women. Just like Saudi Arabia hates women. And Afghanistan hates valerief Jun 2016 #31
misogyny and rape culture are not limited to other countries and cultures. niyad Jun 2016 #34
Glad to hear this secondwind Jun 2016 #10
He'll probably petition to have his name changed, since everyone knows it now n/t ailsagirl Jun 2016 #12
Bwahahahah! Good! smirkymonkey Jun 2016 #16
I saw that he testified abouty not using drugs and gopiscrap Jun 2016 #17
" testified abouty not using drugs and alcohol after a certain point" keithbvadu2 Jun 2016 #23
Awww, let's not be TOO Hard on the boy! Night Watchman Jun 2016 #18
I'm sure if Swim USA could jail him for 10 years, christx30 Jun 2016 #19
if he had gotten what he deserves, he would be too old to swim by the time he got out of prison. olddad56 Jun 2016 #21
Paul Ryan: The term “forcible rape” was “stock language” TomCADem Jun 2016 #24
His mom said people would "wrongly assume he is a child molester" instead of "just" a rapist QED Jun 2016 #25
No surprise that the mother is disgusting trash. Frank Cannon Jun 2016 #29
How could anyone assume ejbr Jun 2016 #33
that whole family is a disgusting waste of oxygen and resources. niyad Jun 2016 #35
And don't forget she can not decorate while all this is going on! Person 2713 Jun 2016 #36
I'd make him swim right after eating Gomez163 Jun 2016 #26
I always enjoy a warm bowl of schadenfreud cliffordu Jun 2016 #28
that judge made him far more well known as a sex offender than yurbud Jun 2016 #37
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
3. He's going to pay regardless of his length of sentence.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jun 2016

Granted, I'd love to see that guy spend a few yrs in the slammer, but this publicity has pretty much given him the punishment that the judge didnt. Having to register a s a sex offender for the rest of your life is a HUGE thing to overcome. And now the notoriety he's gotten will definitely affect his future job prospects.
Oh well, dont rape a woman.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
11. He will have to register as a sex offender ONLY IF he loses appeals.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jun 2016

He has resources, and friends in low places.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
14. Appeals seem to be based on procedure and other esoteric legal stuff ...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jun 2016

... that I won't pretend to understand.

They're not supposed to be based on facts, public opinions, or newspaper editorials.

So, yes, even after all THIS, his appeals could succeed.

But now, there may be new charges based on distributing photos.

We'll see.

The poor lad was obviously suffering from affluenza.

CincyDem

(6,347 posts)
4. But but but...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jun 2016

...but won't this effect him for life ? A life ban for just "20 minutes of bad decision making". Whah, whah, whah...it just doesn't seem fair.



MidwestTech

(170 posts)
7. A lifetime ban in the US vs a lifetime of trauma
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jun 2016

yeah im gonna be siding with the victim on this one.

he can cope

elljay

(1,178 posts)
9. Had he shown remorse
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:43 PM
Jun 2016

and been properly sanctioned, he would be able to one day reclaim his life. America is filled with stories of people who did wrong things and then truly repented and reformed. We are generally a forgiving people. Instead, he, his father, and Judge Persky have made this impossible. The unintended consequence of not punishing him with prison for his 20 minutes of action will be the horrified reaction of the public and the actions they take in response, like the swimming ban. I'm sure there are more to come. Hubris.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
15. Yep.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jun 2016

Like when OJ was found not guilty by the jury, but generally became a pariah to a lot of people. Despite the verdict, no one wanted to be seen with him.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
5. See? His father was right. Twenty minutes of "action" did disrupt his son's life.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jun 2016

That's kind of how crime and punishment works, doofus dad.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
20. It would take LESS than twenty minutes to commit murder.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jun 2016

The attitude of both his parents denotes that this attitude must have been prevalent in his upbringing. As a mom and a teacher, I know some kids can "break bad" despite the best efforts of their parents, but I would guess that is not the case in this situation. I would not "disown" a son who committed such a crime, but I definitely would be bringing all hell down on his head and would agree that he should take whatever punishment the law meted out.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
8. Agreed. But at least US Swimming got it right.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jun 2016

Hoping more entities with influence on the rapist's life do the same.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
22. Yes, they got it right.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jun 2016

I doubt that there will be much controversy, but...it would be interesting to contrast the reaction if the boy had been, say, a star athlete in football, with many rabid fans and lots of money at stake.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
27. Recall campaign gains speed against judge in Stanford rape case
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:54 AM
Jun 2016
The judge's decision "confirms what women already knew: That rape culture blames us for being vulnerable when crimes are committed against us, but treats the same factors — drinking, in particular — as reasons to be exceedingly lenient with rapists," Assemblywoman Susan Talamantes Eggman of Stockton said.


http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2016/06/recall_campaign_against_judge.html#incart_river_home

I'm not sure in this case it's the reason for this Judge's decision. I suspect it's more the 'affluence' that affected his decision. Or maybe both.

But it's not just this judge. Rapists and child molesters seem to almost always get inappropriately short sentences. And I just can't understand why.

gopiscrap

(23,733 posts)
17. I saw that he testified abouty not using drugs and
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:25 PM
Jun 2016

alcohol after a certain point and it's been proven that he had. Can't he be charged with perjury?

keithbvadu2

(36,738 posts)
23. " testified abouty not using drugs and alcohol after a certain point"
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jun 2016

But he probably only used them for '20 minutes'. (sarcasm)

christx30

(6,241 posts)
19. I'm sure if Swim USA could jail him for 10 years,
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:45 PM
Jun 2016

they would. We work with the tools that we have. They are doing everything in their power to distance themselves from the twerp. "He's not one of our's. he's banned for life. "

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
24. Paul Ryan: The term “forcible rape” was “stock language”
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:54 AM
Jun 2016

For all of the Republican efforts to claim that they are not sexist, not too long ago, their "mainstream" candidate was sponsoring a bill with a very narrow definition rape.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2012/08/27/paul-ryan-the-term-forcible-rape-was-stock-language/

Responding to Democratic charges that he sought to narrow the definition of rape when he co-sponsored a House measure last year that used the term “forcible rape,” presumptive GOP vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan said Monday that the phrase was “stock language” and that he agreed with its eventual removal from the bill.

“Democrats have been accusing you of trying to redefine rape,” Fox News Channel host Bret Baier said to Ryan in an interview that aired Monday night. “You co-sponsored legislation seeking to distinguish between statutory and forcible rape. Why?”

“Well, look. All of these bills were bills to stop taxpayer financing of abortion,” Ryan said. “Most Americans agree with us, including pro-choice Americans, that we shouldn’t use hardworking taxpayer dollars to finance abortion. Rape is rape, period. This is language that was stock language used for lots of different bills – bills I didn’t author – and that language was removed, to be very clear, and I agree with that, removing that language so we are very clear. Rape is rape, period. End of story.”

The GOP-led House has passed several abortion funding-related measures this Congress, but the one that employed the term “forcible rape” – H.R. 3, also known as the “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act” – has drawn renewed scrutiny in the wake of Missouri GOP Senate nominee Todd Akin’s remark that “legitimate rape” rarely results in pregnancy.

QED

(2,747 posts)
25. His mom said people would "wrongly assume he is a child molester" instead of "just" a rapist
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jun 2016

"Turner’s mother also expressed concern about his future job prospects and fretted over the fact that he would have to register as a Tier 3 sex offender after serving his sentence.

“Brock will have to register at the highest tier which means he is on the same level as a pedophile/child molester. There is no differentiation,” she wrote. “The public records will reflect a Tier 3 so people will wrongly assume he is a child molester. I fear for his lifelong safety.”"

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/rapists-mother-wrote-letter-to-judge-complaining-about-decorating-and-not-one-word-about-the-victim/

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
29. No surprise that the mother is disgusting trash.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:37 AM
Jun 2016

Clearly, the rotten apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
33. How could anyone assume
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jun 2016

he's a pedophile when everyone now knows who this prick is, what he has done, and his inadequate punishment? I know, she wrote this before the extent of this travesty played out, but I hope she now knows how unlikely it is to consider him anything other than the shit he is. He'd be less of a shit had he and his supporters had a fucking clue.

niyad

(113,228 posts)
35. that whole family is a disgusting waste of oxygen and resources.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jun 2016

may they receive everything they deserve.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
28. I always enjoy a warm bowl of schadenfreud
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:45 AM
Jun 2016

With my morning cup of Draino.

This was particularly tasty.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
37. that judge made him far more well known as a sex offender than
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jun 2016

If he gave him a decent sentence, so in a sense, he ruined his life in a different direction--and probably ruined his own to boot.

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