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Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:35 PM

Syria bombards starving Daraya hours after food aid delivery

Source: CNN

(CNN)The Syrian regime has pounded the besieged city of Daraya with barrel bombs, just hours after food aid was delivered to the area for the first time in almost four years, officials and monitors said.

The London-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said that at least 68 barrel bombs were dropped on Daraya on Friday as agencies delivered food rations to the city on the brink of starvation.

This comes as the United States is leading airstrikes targeting ISIS extremists. The regime is bombing cities and towns trying to break away from government control, including the very groups armed by the United States to fight ISIS.

The bombardment and fresh twin suicide attacks on Saturday are chilling reminders of the lack of progress in the conflict, which has raged now for almost five years, causing hundreds of thousands of deaths, the destruction of towns and mass displacements.

At least 20 people were killed, including 13 civilians, and more than 30 people were wounded in twin suicide bombings outside the Shiite shrine of the Sayyida Zeinab in suburban Damascus area, according to the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/11/middleeast/syria-food-aid-strikes/



Note: 5th paragraph added for clarity.

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Reply Syria bombards starving Daraya hours after food aid delivery (Original post)
Little Tich Jun 2016 OP
Socal31 Jun 2016 #1
jamzrockz Jun 2016 #7
newthinking Jun 2016 #14
newthinking Jun 2016 #18
uppityperson Jun 2016 #2
6chars Jun 2016 #3
newthinking Jun 2016 #15
Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #4
jamzrockz Jun 2016 #8
newthinking Jun 2016 #16
Odin2005 Jun 2016 #5
Sunlei Jun 2016 #6
jamzrockz Jun 2016 #9
Sunlei Jun 2016 #10
jamzrockz Jun 2016 #11
Sunlei Jun 2016 #12
jamzrockz Jun 2016 #13
newthinking Jun 2016 #17
Nihil Jun 2016 #20
David__77 Jun 2016 #19

Response to Little Tich (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:37 PM

1. Anyone who hasn't watched the footage of Assad's barrel bombs targeting citizens....

It is surreal that Assad is not dead or in prison.

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Response to Socal31 (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:05 PM

7. What a load of crap

 

Targeting civilians? why target civilians when there are hardcore jihadists trying to take over the country. I think at this point Assad like Lincoln during the civil war do whatever it takes to keep the country together.

War is hell but the Syrians have to win this battle and drive out the Saudi and US sponsored foreign jihadists.

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Response to jamzrockz (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:02 PM

14. "Syrian Observatory for Human Rights" is a discredited propaganda organ

There is a war narrative on and they do their job well.

That may work on some of the general public if they are even paying attention but it won't generally get much weight where folks are more aware of war persuasion.

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Response to newthinking (Reply #14)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:33 PM

18. Our Syria policy is still a mess: These are the dots the media refuses to connect -Salon

Russia's foreign minister reveals a strange talk with John Kerry, and explains much about American foreign policy
Patrick L. Smith


http://www.salon.com/2016/06/12/our_syria_policy_is_still_a_mess_these_are_the_dots_the_media_refuses_to_connect/


John Kerry shares a laugh with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov during their meeting in Moscow, March 24, 2016. (Credit: AP/Andrew Harnik)

.................

One concerns the propaganda that crawls like kuzdu all over official statements and press reporting on the Syria conflict. The two usually coincide, we need to note, though this is not always so.

Barrel bombs (of the kind American deployed against the Vietnamese), targeted hospitals, civilian casualties, blockaded populations pushed to starvation: If you have not read of all this and more you have not been reading the newspapers. Here is our question: How much of this do we know to be so and how much as to the culpable parties? Defending the Assad government is out of the question, of course. Damascus is something short of a Swedish dairy, to borrow a British bureaucrat’s phrase in another context. But condemning it on the basis of what we are told is out of the question, too. One cannot do either with any certainty.

The reality is that most of us are far deeper in the dark than we realize. We are not supposed to recognize this, but the principled position requires us to. Propaganda is an effective device, let there be no question, but our recent wars—in part media wars, as John Pilger, the Australian-British journalist, puts it—are something new. In this environment, propaganda machines eventually over-produce, as if they have exceeded their design tolerances. One is told this, that and the other so incessantly that one ends up accepting none of it at face value.

One of the aims of this column since Salon and I began it just about three years ago is to encourage clear sight—to remove the gauze of exceptionalism that separates us from perfectly obvious realities beyond our shores. It is a defensible intention, I would still say, but it can come to this: We have to see clearly that we are often not permitted to see clearly. It is the only way to proceed sensibly through the swamps of mis– and disinformation that just about drown us.

Where is our information about the war in Syria coming from? This is the obvious, mandatory question we can never forget to ask. Official narratives, various intelligence services and the Pentagon are plainly parts of the answer. So we have one problem straight off the top. Web sites such as Bellingcat.com, whose connections one would be naïve not to question, present another. In different places we are fed material from different sources. In the Syrian case, there is the incessantly quoted Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which operates from an apartment in the English Midlands (as does Bellingcat). Ever have a coherent explanation of just what the Syrian Observatory is, who its people are, how it gets its information and how it checks what it gets? No need to answer. (Its “about us” page says it is not associated or linked with any political group.)

Full story:
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/12/our_syria_policy_is_still_a_mess_these_are_the_dots_the_media_refuses_to_connect/

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Response to Little Tich (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:14 AM

2. K&R for people

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Response to Little Tich (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 02:24 AM

3. I am confused

Was this a cause-effect thing? Who are the good guys? Who are the bad guys?

What a crazy place. Hopefully they'll sort it out.

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Response to 6chars (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:08 PM

15. It seems crazy because war "reporting" is a captured "Narrative" and it is likely untrue.

The "Syrian Observatory of Human rights" is not a real human rights group.

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Response to Little Tich (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:48 AM

4. Remember the good old days

When DUers actually used to defend Assad?

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:10 PM

8. I didn't go anywhere

 

I still support him taking the fight against the foreign sponsored jihadists. War is hell and civilians would be caught in the crossfire but the Syrians have to win this fight if they are to avoid ending up worse that Libya.

Viva Syrian Arab Army, Syrian AF, Tiger force, National defense forces, Hezbollah, Russian Air force and all the group fighting the Wahhabi forces in Syria

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Response to jamzrockz (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:10 PM

16. The same posters are here jumping in to agree with the narrative

and to try and intimidate those who understand how modern war "news" works.

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Response to Little Tich (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:21 PM

5. Assad is a monster.

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Response to Little Tich (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:28 PM

6. wish 'someone' would have taken out assad before he teamed up with putin, or even the year before.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:12 PM

9. Like it happened wit Gaddafi?

 

Even better scenario is if the Americans hadn't tried to use proxy armies to force regime change on a country that is not ready for it. Imagine the death and destruction happening in Syrian right now that would have been avoided.

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Response to jamzrockz (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:16 PM

10. Assad killed thousands of his own people in the years before putin joined him.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:21 PM

11. I am sure he killed them for no reason

 

whatsoever. Its not like they took up arms against the govt, killed govt workers, killed civilians, created a new flag and pledged to take their fight to Damascus. Its not like they did anything wrong and Assad just woke up one morning and said, the US and EU just killed Gaddafi who was "accused" of doing exactly the same thing and decided that he should kill innocent civilians for the heck of it.

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Response to jamzrockz (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:24 PM

12. Caesar says he began smuggling out thumb drives of the pictures he took with a team of photographers

Caesar says he began smuggling out thumb drives of the pictures he took with a team of photographers between the fall of 2011 and the summer of 2013: some 55,000 photographs of nearly 11,000 people, all photographed at a military facility in Damascus. Each corpse is accompanied by a white card with numbers written on it — in death, no names, only numbers. In some pictures there are more than a dozen bodies, naked in the dirt. Some of the dead are children, under the age of 18, starved to death.For Two Years, He Smuggled Photos Of Torture Victims Out Of Syria.



http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2014/jan/20/torture-of-persons-under-current-syrian-regime-report

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:19 PM

13. But why do it now?

 

kill children, innocent civilians. It sounds just like the babies in incubator story or Gaddafi viagra fueled rape army. It just sound too devilish and convenient story for the Americans to be believed. Sorry but I refuse to believe that a reluctant ophthalmologist who had no interest in ruling would start killing children just as about the US was finishing off Libya and ready to send weapons and fighters to Syria.

I don't believe it and even if I did, whatever the US could have done was bound to make the situation much worse than it is.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:21 PM

17. The Caesar Photo Fraud that Undermined Syrian Negotiations

At least keep some scepticism: There is a war narrative on. If you expect to get truth from the MSM you will be lost.


The Caesar Photo Fraud that Undermined Syrian Negotiations
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/04/the-caesar-photo-fraud-that-undermined-syrian-negotiations/

A 30 page investigative report on the “Caesar Torture Photos” has been released and is available online here. The following is a condensed version of the report. Readers who are especially interested are advised to get the full report which includes additional details, photographs, sources and recommendations.

Introduction

There is a pattern of sensational but untrue reports that lead to public acceptance of US and Western military intervention in countries around the world:

* In Gulf War 1, there were reports of Iraqi troops stealing incubators from Kuwait, leaving babies to die on the cold floor. Relying on the testimony of a Red Crescent doctor, Amnesty Interenational ‘verified’ the false claims.

* Ten years later, there were reports of yellow cake uranium going to Iraq for development of weapons of mass destruction.

* One decade later, there were reports of Libyan soldiers drugged on viagra and raping women as they advanced.

* In 2012, NBC broadcaster Richard Engel was supposedly kidnapped by pro-Assad Syrian militia but luckily freed by Syrian opposition fighters, the “Free Syrian Army”.

All these reports were later confirmed to be fabrications and lies. They all had the goal of manipulating public opinion and they all succeeded in one way or another. Despite the consequences, which were often disastrous, none of the perpetrators were punished or paid any price.

It has been famously said “Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.” This report is a critical review of the “Caesar Torture Photos” story. As will be shown, there is strong evidence the accusations are entirely or substantially false.

Overview of ‘Caesar Torture Photos’

On 20 January 2014, two days before negotiations about the Syrian conflict were scheduled to begin in Switzerland, a sensational report burst onto television and front pages around the world. The story was that a former Syrian army photographer had 55,000 photographs documenting the torture and killing of 11,000 detainees by the Syrian security establishment.



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Response to newthinking (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:05 AM

20. +1 (n/t)

 

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Response to Little Tich (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:45 AM

19. I hope peace and security is restored to Syria soon.

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