Donald Trump suggests President Obama was involved with Orlando shooting

[Coventina]

Source: Washington Post

Donald Trump seemed to repeatedly accuse President Obama on Monday of identifying with radicalized Muslims who have carried out terrorist attacks in the United States and being complicit in the mass shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando over the weekend, the worst the country has ever seen.

"Look, we're led by a man that either is not tough, not smart, or he's got something else in mind," Trump said in a lengthy interview on Fox News early Monday morning. "And the something else in mind -- you know, people can't believe it. People cannot, they cannot believe that President Obama is acting the way he acts and can't even mention the words 'radical Islamic terrorism.' There's something going on. It's inconceivable. There's something going on."

In that same interview, Trump was asked to explain why he called for Obama to resign in light of the shooting and he answered, in part: "He doesn't get it or he gets it better than anybody understands -- it's one or the other and either one is unacceptable."

For months, Trump has slyly suggested that the president is not Christian and has questioned his compassion toward Muslims. Years ago, Trump was a major force in calls for the president to release his birth certificate and prove that he was born in the United States. On the campaign trail, Trump has repeatedly stated as fact conspiracy theories about the president, his rivals and Muslims, often refusing to back down from his assertions even when they are proven to be false.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/13/donald-trump-suggests-president-obama-was-involved-with-orlando-shooting/

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I have no words.....

[madaboutharry]

1. It is so outrageous,

It is hard to even respond to that. He is completely delusional. Or else he says it knowing it's a lie, which makes him a psychopath.

[jimlup]

2. I would argue both

apply in his case

[dchill]

4. Works for me.

[PatSeg]

44. Yes, I agree

He is manipulating news for his own benefit, but as a compulsive liar, he undoubtedly ends up believing a lot of his own crap. I'm quite sure he doesn't really know what he believes about anything. Very disturbed individual.

[Botany]

12. Trump is wrong on so many levels

Telling lies or saying what the bad balance of chemicals and nerve tissues
makes him think are sure signs of his sickness. His tweet yesterday where
Donald took credit for predicting the mass shooting and not one word of
sympathy for the victims and their families and friends showed how vile a
person he really is.

[yeoman6987]

26. Actually he did but besides the point

If trump thinks Obama wanted a terror attack this close to the election that is crazy. He would not jeopardize Hillary's chances. The whole article is Crap.

[Botany]

29. The pain the President was in yesterday was clear to see

He looked like the weight of the world was on his shoulders.

This awful attack had nothing to do with the Presidential election
it had to do w/hatred, mental illness, and our insane gun laws.

[yeoman6987]

31. I agree.

[cstanleytech]

45. Trump is very pro-hatred and pro-mental illness. nt

[Equinox Moon]

34. Wow! Even his speech is garbled and incoherent

[TwilightZone]

3. After his asinine gloating about being "right", it's no surprise that he's doubling down.

This is the face of a campaign in desperation mode. It's not going to hurt him with his loony base, but I doubt it plays well with the majority of voters.

[PJMcK]

33. I don't agree

It doesn't seem that Donald Trump is anywhere near desperation yet. Let me explain my thoughts.

His entire campaign has been based on his celebrity and because of his ignorance (of pretty much everything) he doesn't know what a national presidential campaign requires. Interestingly, his success in the Republican primary has confirmed in his mind that he knows how to run his campaign. It's positive reinforcement for negative actions. I believe he thinks he's doing very, very well. He certainly hasn't publicly expressed any kind of fear or concern.

From several different reports, it's becoming clear that Mr. Trump does not have the financing for his campaign in place. Further, it appears that his own liquid assets are limited as is his willingness to spend his own money. Most importantly, he doesn't have the national political infrastructure for the coming campaign; this take years to organize. Mr. Trump doesn't know what he doesn't know and his ego and psychopathy prevent him from developing the curiosity needed to learn. He isn't desperate because in his mind, he's doing great.

But he's delusional and lives in a self-imposed bubble of his own inevitability. His desperation will come once the fall campaigns are underway.

[PatSeg]

46. Well said

He has begun to believe that winning is easy and he is unstoppable. He has started to believe his own hype. It is like watching a nine year old in an adult's body.

[PJMcK]

49. Hopefully, it'll make his crash all the more sweet! (n/t)

[PatSeg]

50. And may he take a lot of

those republicans with him, the ones who endorsed him in spite of the racism and hate speech.

[BlueStater]

5. I'm convinced there's as much depth to his character as that of a five year old child.

He just says any crazy-ass thing he thinks will get him attention. His only real belief in life is the total and utter delusion of how awesome he is.

[karynnj]

16. There is plenty of depth to a five year old, just little experience or knowledge

Not to mention, most 5 year olds are innocent and sweet and often may see things grownups miss because they have yet to "learn" many things that are not true. Then there is the normal curiosity to learn how things work and to expand their world. Trump has no interest in learning; no interest in questioning his odd belief system which revolves around believing in himself.

It seems like he got older and richer, but he is still the kid sent by his parents to military school - likely because they could not handle him and no longer wanted to try.

[okojo]

23. He isn't being a spoiled toddler.

He is being manipulative and cynical to the extreme. Trump is being exploitive. He is trying to put the media focus on him, and the best way to get that attention, is stating something outrageous. It is a media stunt.

Whether it is Fox News, which isn't media, but a proxy for the Republican Party to other major media conglomerates, they need to step up, and do not have Trump on the air via phone, but in person or on camera.


He used the same tactics during the San Bernardino shootings, make an extreme remark that others won't state, demand an extreme measure, his reward was media attention, he controlled the narrative for the short term, and most importantly take away media oxygen to his primary opponents.

[soilopen]

6. No wonder even Republican leaders

Are reluctant to support him.

[Kelvin Mace]

19. I don't really see much reluctance

Most all of them said they support him over HRC.

[okojo]

20. If one thing Republican Congressional leaders like is message discipline.

Trump is way too uncontrollable for their taste, besides Donald Trump is out for one person, Donald Trump. The NYT's recent article about Trump and his Casino business, shows a person who betrayed almost everyone he had a business relationship with, and was out only for himself. He had no qualms in enriching himself, knowing very well, he was ripping off others at his expense..

Trump is way too unpredictable for their taste..

[weknowvino2]

37. Republican LEADERS?

[peace13]

7. The fact that this man still has a platform to speak on...

...is crazy. Get him the $ell off stage, cut the mic! He is a danger to himself and the rest of us!

[yeoman6987]

27. Oh gosh. He is giving a major speech today

It was planned and now will be worse.

[peace13]

35. Yup.

We live in a reality show gone wrong with no director to pull the plug. The problem with elevating a faux politician is getting rid of her/him. It is pretty difficult. Looks like he's gone all Fukushima.

[Iliyah]

8. T-rump and fake news are in chorus

soon the rest of the GOP will follow with the help of corporate media and the far left.

[Odin2005]

13. "and the far left"

Couldn't resist some hippie-punching, could you?

[Kelvin Mace]

21. Really?

You pick a bad candidate and its our fault we refuse to support them?

For people who worship "pragmatism" you don't seem to understand how it works. If wining must be done at all costs, why do you insist on alienating people whose vote you need?

[peace13]

36. So funny that Hill sit's in the sweet spot in your mind!

I see you believe in an orchestrated press. It's time to realize that Bernie has been invisible to the conductor so to speak. Hill has been the recipient of many gifts. Sit there and mock. It is noted!

[bucolic_frolic]

9. It's subtle but at it's most basic element

it's the same as baiting Judge Curiel for his Mexican ancestry.

Just categorize people, without regard for their record or credentials,
on the basis of race.

It's all about raw racism for Trump.

[karynnj]

10. Well, for the last year, I have thought things he has said means he will implode, this may be it

Remember that President Obama has an above 50 percent approval rating -- and even among those who disapprove these insinuations go way too far.

Not to mention, an attack on the popular President, which will fail, makes him less creditable in attacking Clinton.

The contrast between the serious man who eloquently stood to lead the country in sorrow and this sputtering orange haired pretender spewing hate couldn't be sharper. I would say that Trump disqualified himself with his words, but that would imply that he had once been qualified -- and that was never true.

[Odin2005]

11. Congrats, GOP, for nominating this dangerous lunatic.

[okojo]

17. Trump is not a lunatic..

Trump is dangerous. However there is a very clear method to his madness. He states something to the nth degree, (Obama resigns, banned Muslims etc.) that puts all the media attention on him.

Clearly Trump is being disingenuous, perhaps a bit evil, cynical and frankly he doesn't care that 49-50 people were massacred by a troubled loner with easy access to an assault rifle and large enough quantity of ammunition to kill 49-50 people and severely injured over 50 more. Trump is using this to promote himself.. which is why he is working overtime to get as much media attention on this..

[okojo]

14. This is Trump's standard media tactic..

Say something outrageous or to the extreme, this gets media attention, puts the narrative and most importantly, air time and more media time for Trump.. Trump becomes the narrative, while sucking media attention/oxygen from others. It maybe outrageous, sickening, and many ways plain stupid, but it works. It is the ultimate in trolling, but sadly it works, because look how it is even put on this forum, to people to pay attention to it..

Ignore the message, and see that Trump uses this as a way to garner attention, get free media advertising, and control the narrative in the media.

[Satch59]

15. He's bringing it all home to where he started: a birther...

His insinuations are so toxic. I hope this gets amplified as the day and weeks go on. Obama on the campaign trail will be great...this is personal to him.

Trump is what the GOP deserve and let's see who in that party really has any morals or love of this country...

[Initech]

18. OMG. He did not go there.

[underpants]

22. Itsth inconceithvable!!!

I am clearly sthmarter than you, stho....

[MariaThinks]

24. actually it's trump's attitudes towards guns that allowed the radicalized killer to buy guns.

[leftyladyfrommo]

25. That is just awful.

Narcissistic sociopath. He will say anything with total disregard for the damage that he does. He just doesn't care. That's what happens when you have no capacity for empathy or compassion.

[maryellen99]

28. He's trolling for assassins nt

[gordianot]

30. You have no words, I have no words and M$M will have no words.

The mystique of Donald Trump is few will have much to say in that his outrages are expected. What stupid did Donald Trump or for that matter a generic Republican say today? This disease appears to me to be (somewhat) spreading across the political spectrum.

[yellowcanine]

32. Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell should have to answer for this!

This is totally outrageous. They should not get away with supporting a candidate who accuses the President of terrorism and in fact treason.

[TomCADem]

38. Really, Really Scary

The ease with which he is willing to scapegoat and spread hate is breath taking. So much for acting Presidential.

[0rganism]

39. we are one October attack away from having this cretin rule us for 8 years

organized terror? stochastic terror? hate crime? won't matter a bit.

if the killer's a Muslim, has a Muslim-sounding name, or maybe read an ISIS web page at one time in his life, it's all going to be the fault of weakling Obama and the pansy-ass Democrats. and this criticism, no matter how unfair or empty, will stick, and the trashy crap that passes for news media will go right along with it.

October is the scariest month. used to be my favorite month, with the leaves turning and the rain returning, but now it means something else entirely.

[MFM008]

43. Not always

Being born in late October, it's the start of our holiday season.

[47of74]

40. 47of74 States Donald Trump is a fucking idiot.

[irisblue]

53. co-sign ^^^^^^^^^

[kentauros]

41. I have no words either, but do have some facial expressions for him:

[truthisfreedom]

42. He's showing his hand. If elected, he'll blame Obama

For all terror attacks on his watch. He's laying the foundation for his game plan. "Not my fault, it's all on the guy who refused to incite hatred. The PC guy created terrorists with his lack of magic words."

[shanti]

47. sphincter says what?

talking out of his ass again. it's what he does.

[3catwoman3]

51. Quite the feat, to be able to talk...

...out of it whilst simultaneously having his head up it.

[malaise]

48. Sweet

K & R

[Zambero]

52. I know that Congress is in cahoots with terrorists

The perpetrators can purchase assault weapons and ammo at the drop of a hat. Even if they are on the no-fly list. And who refuses to pass meaningful gun safety legislation to remedy this? It is the GOP-led Congress, at the behest of the NRA. And which presidential candidate supports that position? We all that answer as well -- it is the one making wildly unfounded allegations about the current President. Projection, which amounts to pointing the finger at others for one's one shortcomings, deeds, actions, or inactions, requires a motivator in order to shift the blame. And does Congress ever have one these days. They will be getting an earful over this incident, as they should. One can only hope that this tragedy will be the final straw and that sane gun laws will ensue. Not holding my breath however.

[eastwestdem]

54. Do you think the repubs really believe him? Or are they just pretending to? nt