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MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:58 AM Jun 2016

Shooter’s Father Says ‘God Himself Will Punish ... Homosexuality’

Source: CNN

The father of the Orlando shooter said early Monday that his son shouldn’t have killed patrons at the gay nightclub Pulse because God will punish them, The Washington Post reported. “God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality,” Seddique Mateen said in Dari, speaking in a video posted to Facebook early Monday, per the Post’s translation. “This, is not for the servants” [of God].

The elder Mateen said that he was “saddened” by the shooting, which left 50 dead and dozens injured, the Post noted. While he told media outlets earlier that his son, Omar Mateen, was enraged by seeing two men kissing recently and was not motivated by religion, he said in the video that he did not know what pushed his son into committing mass murder.

Seddique Mateen, aka Mir Mateen, has also raised eyebrows for previous videos. The Guardian reported that in one recent Facebook video, he appears to act the part of Afghanistan’s president, telling the “revolutionaries of Afghanistan” to overthrow their current government. On a Facebook page titled “Provisional Government of Afghanistan,” he wears military fatigues and, speaking in Dari, orders the arrest of several political figures, including Afghan President Ashraf Ghani.


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/shooters-father-god-will-punish-homosexuality_us_575e741de4b0ced23ca87ae1

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Shooter’s Father Says ‘God Himself Will Punish ... Homosexuality’ (Original Post) MariaThinks Jun 2016 OP
The only gripe the right-wingers will have, is that the shooter and his Dad are Muslims. Archae Jun 2016 #1
Let me get this straight leftynyc Jun 2016 #14
The WBC? Really? EL34x4 Jun 2016 #17
By all credible information, the WBC is a scam. Archae Jun 2016 #21
Republicans I know are horrified 6chars Jun 2016 #25
Then let God do it... louis-t Jun 2016 #2
Exactly! If the God they they believe in is as powerful as they claim, surely... 3catwoman3 Jun 2016 #28
"...and I can't imagine why my son would do such a thing"? brooklynite Jun 2016 #3
It just came right out of nowhere, didn't it? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2016 #4
If no one had been hurt or killed, I'd be Ilsa Jun 2016 #27
He wants to be Afghanistan's President exboyfil Jun 2016 #5
The full statement is on the BBC site Warpy Jun 2016 #6
interesting subject of your sympathy. I look at the victim's family and i see sorrow beyond belief MariaThinks Jun 2016 #7
It's not a zero sum game, you know Warpy Jun 2016 #11
His father's influence ended years ago? JudyM Jun 2016 #13
But he said god should punish gays. Lucky Luciano Jun 2016 #9
Not really Warpy Jun 2016 #10
Splitting hairs for homophobes. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #12
Lots of that going on! Behind the Aegis Jun 2016 #19
Deleted. David__77 Jun 2016 #8
BS family RogerM Jun 2016 #15
Let's leave the judgment and punishment up to God OK? IronLionZion Jun 2016 #16
Well then fuck him if that's how he feels. Deport him. bluestateguy Jun 2016 #18
That's too logical. At least we're not like the Brits who are actually paying welfare MariaThinks Jun 2016 #20
investigate him 6chars Jun 2016 #26
If there is a god Astraea Jun 2016 #22
exactly. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #24
Deport him ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #23

Archae

(46,318 posts)
1. The only gripe the right-wingers will have, is that the shooter and his Dad are Muslims.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

Otherwise they'll approve of the killings, already the WBC is cheering for the shootings.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
14. Let me get this straight
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:45 PM
Jun 2016

You (and others) have absolutely zero problem with tagging ALL right wingers with the WBC but we suddenly get all pc and tongue tied when someone utters the words "Islamic extremism".

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
17. The WBC? Really?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:12 PM
Jun 2016

By no stretch of the imagination is the Westboro Baptist Church even remotely representative of mainstream American Christianity.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
21. By all credible information, the WBC is a scam.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jun 2016

They make inflammatory comments and such, try to get assaulted, then they sue.

Just about anyone even remotely connected to those who assaulted them.

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
28. Exactly! If the God they they believe in is as powerful as they claim, surely...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jun 2016

...he/she/it does not need so many self-appointed agents on the planet and would be quite capable of taking care of things without puny and misguided human assistance.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
27. If no one had been hurt or killed, I'd be
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jun 2016

feeling sorry for Omar. His father believed that the nature of his son was worthy of punishment before he ever did anything criminal. It's a tragedy no one was able to intervene and help him before his anger and self-loathing took over.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
5. He wants to be Afghanistan's President
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:27 AM
Jun 2016

I say we give him the opportunity to campaign face to face. Put him on the next government flight to Kabul.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
6. The full statement is on the BBC site
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jun 2016

and the translation is a bit less inflammatory.

His dad looks absolutely destroyed.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
7. interesting subject of your sympathy. I look at the victim's family and i see sorrow beyond belief
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jun 2016

not sure how anyone who supports the Taliban could have a heart.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
11. It's not a zero sum game, you know
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jun 2016

nor is it a light switch mentality thing.

The assassin was 29 years old. His father's influence over him had likely ended some years ago. I see absolutely point in reviling the murderer's father.

And don't forget that a lot of people in Afghanistan supported the Taliban over the lawlessness of predatory warlords. Many still do.

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
13. His father's influence ended years ago?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jun 2016

So what do you suppose his father's response was was the son expressed anger and revulsion to him about the men he saw kissing? Hello: the father is a grotesquely hate-filled homophobe. If you don't call it influence, what do you call sharing a hatred so vehement that they bond over it?

Lucky Luciano

(11,253 posts)
9. But he said god should punish gays.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jun 2016

People who say such things are collectively complicit for the murders that occur due to this hate.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
10. Not really
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jun 2016

There is a world of difference between "should" and "will." He's not ordering god around, in other words. Remember, being Muslim doesn't confer sole ownership of religious homophobia. There is plenty of it to go around to most religions, especially the desert ones.

He also said punishing sin is not for human beings to do.

Mostly he looks like a parent who's just had his guts ripped out and is trying to cope with what just happened.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
18. Well then fuck him if that's how he feels. Deport him.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jun 2016

We have enough homophobe natural born citizens, we shouldn't be taking immigrants who espouse such crap.

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
20. That's too logical. At least we're not like the Brits who are actually paying welfare
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jun 2016

to Imams that are asking for the destruction of Great Britain.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
26. investigate him
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jun 2016

you think he isn't involved in more? he is lying now, and is probably still covering up for his terrorist son.

Astraea

(468 posts)
22. If there is a god
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jun 2016

and he doesn't punish twisted, sick, hateful fucks like this, it's not a god I want to believe in. I don't know how these people can look themselves in the mirror every day.

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