Islamic State: Orlando shooter soldier 'of the caliphate in America'
Source: USA Today
The Islamic State appeared to claim responsibility for the shooting in Orlando that killed at least 50 people, saying in a radio broadcast Monday that "one of the soldiers of the caliphate in America" carried out the attack at a gay nightclub in Florida.
While American-born Omar Mateen, 29, from Fort Pierce, Fla., pledged his allegiance to the Islamic State in a 911 call shortly before the assault, police say it is not yet known whether he had any direct contact or support from the extremist group. Mateen was born in New York, but was of Afghan descent.
The radio broadcast was published on social media
Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/13/islamic-state-orlando-shooter-soldier-caliphate-america/85817658/
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)..to think that man was not born and raised in America! Seems so! He was you know! So some crazies claim he represents them. Bullshit. This man was raised here and WE LET HIM BUY A GUN!! He is American! Hates woman and gays. Heard and learned that hate here right here in America!
Stop promoting hate and then we can worry about the crazy people far far away!
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)He pledged his allegiance to ISIS, not America. Read that a few times and spend 5 minutes thinking about who taught him to hate.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)He is not an outsider! He is us! If you want to be afraid of Islam then be afraid of all religion as they all teach hate!
The point is sensed to stop selling guns. We really really do!
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)I think that is natural. We should make a law that says killing people is illegal. That way no one can kill someone. Then I would feel safe
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Only fools imply killing is not illegal!
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)nt
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)Source: Washington Post
At a high school in Florida, students watched the horrors of Sept. 11, 2001, unfold on live TV. When the second hijacked airliner slammed into the World Trade Centers south tower, the class watched in stunned disbelief. But one student, a classmate recalled, started jumping up-and-down cheering on the terrorist.
That was sophomore Omar Mateen, according to one of the accounts from Martin County High School remembering 9/11 and the reaction by the student who, nearly 15 years later, would carry out the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.
Yea, sure sounds like he was a true American.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I'm amazed he didn't get the shit kicked out of him by his classmates.
patsimp
(915 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)I am not an outsider! I am us! I grew up as a baptist. Fundamentalist Protestant, apocalyptic exclusionary, judgemental (but they tempered it with "We are ALL sinners! We ALL screw up all the time. We all need to repent and seek forgiveness" .
I have never shot up, nor wanted to shoot up, any group of people.
If the problem is that he went to our schools and watched our TV, and that is what turned him into a monster, why isn't everybody in America who was born and raised here a monster?
EX500rider
(10,842 posts)I don't recall the Episcopalian church I went to as a child preaching any kind of hate.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)So stop with the "didn't pledge to the USA" stuff.
GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)You seem like a funny person. You witnessed him pledge allegiance to the USA? Sure doesn't sound like he was allied to the USA. And we stopped that daily routine in about 1990. Not like it means shit. Actions and words are a little bit different.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)I went to different middle schools in California. I remember saying the pledge up to the 5th grade then we stopped in 6th grade (1990), we moved, I went to a new school and we didn't say it in 7th or 8th or any time in high school. I don't even remember how it goes after the first 2 lines.
Point being, just because you recite the pledge doesn't mean America has your allegiance, as we can see in this case.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)I was surprised as I thought they'd given up on that.
Igel
(35,300 posts)And do you really want to have child protective services do an ideological investigation of every set of parents or the Department of Religious Truth investigate every place of worship for fidelity to the Federal Statement of True Religious Principles? Or maybe get the Federal Internet Truth and Accuracy Agency involved, lest somebody click on the wrong site?
Or is this just a way of saying, "He learned it somewhere, he might have learned it from Fox, therefore he must have learned it from Fox"? Because if that's a syllogism, it's one that's spelled f-a-l-l-a-c-y.
Freedom entails risk. No matter how much you want to mitigate that risk, the two are connected. Except things like "freedom from want," where you can have a completely repressive society that, so long as you submit, provides for you. (Then, of course, it's easy to have a parasitism law: If you have no valid, state-approved means of support you're a parasite; of course, the state can fire you, depriving you of that means of support, then arrest you for not having a job. And those Georgia girls really knock me out.)
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)It seems he father was mentally I'll as well based on reports this morning.
Giving guns to angry men seems like a bad idea to me.
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)1. his allegiance to isis, a father who supports the Taliban and who hates homosexuals
2. his ability to get guns. Of course, if he did not have that ability, he could have used explosives like the radical Islamic murderers did with the boston marathon.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)= Trump and GOP wonders how they got a guy like Trump. Or why guns continue to sell (because duh Obama is gonna force himself a 3rd term and take away your guns. Except now thats not happening and people like my dad are in a nut. Like hey my dads Tea Party. You can't be Tea Party and vote for Donald Trump at the same time unless you believe the propaganda machine
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)romanic
(2,841 posts)They'll use any tragedy commited by a Muslim extremist outside of their fake caliphate as propaganda to fuel more extremists.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)There are operations going on right now in both places. They are in such a state of panic they are shooting civilians trying to escape from Fallujah.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Astraea
(468 posts)What a sick joke.