Donald Trump: Americans Who Don’t Report Their Suspicious Neighbors Should Be ‘Brought To Justice’

[Auggie]

Source: Huffington Post

Donald Trump on Monday proposed punishing Americans if they don’t turn in their friends and neighbors for behaving suspiciously.

“In San Bernardino, people knew what was going on, they knew exactly, but they used the excuse of racial profiling for not reporting it,” Trump said during a speech in the wake of the Orlando mass shooting.

The presumptive GOP presidential nominee was presumably referring to unverified reports that a woman who lived near the mother of one of the San Bernardino shooters had noticed that the family received “quite a few packages within a short amount of time, and they were doing a lot of work out in the garage.”

A man who claimed to be friends with this neighbor said she did not report the packages and the behavior to authorities because she “didn’t want to do any kind of racial profiling.”

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-orlando-san-bernardino_us_575f1802e4b0e4fe51435eb2

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[no_hypocrisy]

1. Guess my days are numbered . . . . . .

I live in a neighborhood in NJ where 80% of my neighbors are Middle Eastern immigrants.

[OnDoutside]

2. Yes, report on your neighbours .... where have we seen that before ?

[SummerSnow]

8. Next, he'll call for young people to join a Trump Youth Movement.Report your family.

[SCantiGOP]

54. That was my first thought of a comparison

I remember seeing a film strip of a blonde, Teutonic teenage boy being given a medal for reporting that his parents were hiding Jews.
This is some scary shit. I can't find much sanity in Trump's world view.

[OnDoutside]

72. Once he writes his new book, Mein Drumpf

[hobbit709]

9. Part of his favorite bedtime reading material.

[AntiBank]

91. See Something Say Something........

[yuiyoshida]

66. If Trump is Elected, all of San Francisco

will be moved and deported. Reporting on your neighbor? A move from the fascist Playbook.

[Spider Jerusalem]

67. Nah, the libertarian venture capitalists and tech dudebros will be fine (n/t)

[yeoman6987]

95. The wife of the shooter refused to turn in her husband and now facing charges

If only she went to authorities, 49 people would still be alive today. I don't know why some ignore and don't report. It is tragic.

[LisaL]

3. We can call them "enemy of the state" and send them to camps.

[bluestateguy]

4. The Sovereign Citizen movement will become very popular with the Left, were he to be elected

nt

[mazzarro]

41. What?????????

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. Doesn't take much imagination to see where this is headed.

[Agnosticsherbet]

6. Trump is dsngerous to eveeything and everyone.

[Auggie]

7. "Madman-In-Chief"

Huffington Post's eyebrow to the above link

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. East German Stassi awaits Hair DrumpFührer's commands.

Kim Jong-Un and Putin beam with admiration.

[Jim__]

11. So now, in addition to killing terrorists' families ...

... we can kill their neighbors too. That'll put an end to all this terrorism.

[chapdrum]

20. Right. It's talk like this

that will likely set neighbor against neighbor.

We've seen how this turned out in Bosnia/Serbia.

[tblue37]

70. Heck, we saw it in a Twilight Zone episode!

"The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"

The only copy I could find of the original is on Hulu:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/440892


But here is a 2014 update:

Oh, and how could we forget Arthur Miller's The Crucible, which uses the Salem witch trials to represent the McCarthyite communist witch hunts?

[patricia92243]

24. Bingo!

[cynzke]

75. TRUMP IS ISIS'S ULTIMATE YUGE SECRET WEAPON!

Now, more than EVER, Pogo was RIGHT!.......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_(comic_strip)#/media/File ogo_-_Earth_Day_1971_poster.jpg

[hobbit709]

12. Everyone should call and say he's acting suspiciously like an asshole.

[7962]

25. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

[Skittles]

13. my neighbor gets a lot of packages

but he is white so he is not on Trump's radar - that gets me off the hook, I suppose

[PersonNumber503602]

50. Hey, I was thinking about that the other day

I order a lot of cheap electronic components from China. So I have like a constant stream of packages from overseas coming in. I wonder if anyone has ever considered reporting me, or if I raised any red flags.

[Skittles]

61. I think that's exactly what's in these packages

he rebuilds computers

[SwissTony]

74. What's he building in there?

We have the right to know...

...according to a certain Mr Waits.

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. ‘Who denounced you?’ said Winston.

‘It was my little daughter,’ said Parsons with a sort of doleful pride. ‘She listened at the keyhole. Heard what I was saying, and nipped off to the patrols the very next day. Pretty smart for a nipper of seven, eh? I don’t bear her any grudge for it. In fact I’m proud of her. It shows I brought her up in the right spirit, anyway.’

https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/o/orwell/george/o79n/chapter3.1.html

[FailureToCommunicate]

27. Thanks for that reminder of a particularly chilling section of Orwell's book.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. Who is a neighbor of the NY penthouse short-fingered vulgarian plotting to harm the USA in November?

[PatSeg]

16. So

He behaved himself for a whole day? He seems incapable of controlling his mouth or he loves the attention he gets more than he wants to win.

[The Animator]

60. No we didn't even get 12 hours

before his nonsense started vomiting out onto twitter...

[PatSeg]

88. He reminds me of that guy

in every neighborhood bar who just can't keep his mouth shut, but because Trump is rich, he can cause far more damage. If it wasn't for fame and fortune, he'd just be a forgettable bloke in a bar that everyone tries to ignore.

[ck4829]

17. I doubt this neighbor actually saw anything; embellishing or confabulating

Here's a non-terror example, (well 'terror' in the commonly used sense). But a neighbor of Ariel Castro also claimed to have seen weird things before the three women were freed, but the claims were never verified.

http://www.citylab.com/work/2013/05/we-may-never-know-sure-whether-ariel-castros-neighbors-made-earlier-911-calls/5530/

[chapdrum]

18. While I don't want to see this

sociopath as "president," that would not be without precedent.

If he does take office, that might be the (admittedly draconian) wake-up call that some of us need, in order to stop embracing corporatists and their stateless policies.

[yardwork]

80. i heard that before Nixon, Reagan, and W. Didn't work.

[FailureToCommunicate]

19. Who ya gonna call?

4650877872_de4d60c184_z.jpg

[Mendocino]

21. Mein Trumpf

If anybody with half a functioning brain still can't see Donald exactly for what he is, then this country is truly screwed.

[houston16revival]

33. +10,000^^^^^

"Mein Trumpf"

LOL

[Paladin]

38. Bullseye. Thread winner. (nt)

[FarPoint]

22. We all know how that plan works out...

First thought, Salem Witch Trial.

[houston16revival]

23. His ideas are going to flush

every unstable lunatic with a grudge or an agenda, private or personal or public or
political, plus every sociopath and psychopath and bi-polar unmedicated out of
hiding and into plotting their deeds.

The man is a lunatic.

[Feeling the Bern]

26. That's exactly what the KGB and Gestapo wanted their people to do. Spy on their neighbors

Why doesn't he just put on the arm band already and stop the fucking pretense?

[CanonRay]

28. Sounds like East Germany to me. n/t

[IrishEyes]

29. Okay. I will report my neighbor in NYC.

He is a racist, sexist, homophobic psychopath who has caused a lot of pain and misery in his 70 years on the planet. The authorities should be on the lookout for an ugly man with orange skin, horrible hair and a mouth that is constantly open. He is trying to destroy this country. Not only is he a threat to himself and anyone who comes in contact with him but he is also a threat to democracy.

[Jerry442]

35. He's even been spotted trying to get into the White House. NT

[Lance Bass esquire]

30. Me thinks his love of a Wall might have

It's origins in BERLIN

[jmowreader]

68. I've been calling it the New Berlin Wall for months

Because that's what it is.

Now for the scary part: The General Secretary of the East German Communist Party told the workers and peasants the reason for the Wall was to keep the decadent West Germans out of the DDR. Trump is telling us his wall is to keep the Mexicans out of the US.

[eppur_se_muova]

31. Just dial 1-800-BIG-BROTHER nt

[tanyev]

32. Well, to be really successful with that, he probably needs to start with young people.

You know, give them their own organization and activities and uniforms and then they could report anyone they didn't think was American enough. Hmm...what to call them?

[Jerry442]

37. The uniforms should be snappy. Brown is popular, I've heard. NT

[Midnight Writer]

64. We have had Brown Shirts, Silver Shirts, Black Shirts. Maybe Orange Shirts?

[Jerry442]

83. You made me go look up Silver Shirts.

Interesting. Hadn't heard of those guys before.

Orange shirts were worn in the Ukraine by people protesting fraud in the 2004 election there. As far as I can tell, it was a positive thing.

[kentauros]

96. Burnt Orange

Pre-washed in orange hair.

[olddad56]

34. then why haven't Donald's neighbors reported him.

[Hekate]

36. That's bn tried any number of times elsewhere:Nazi Germany, USSR, East Germany, China, Burma, NKorea

It always ends well, doesn't it? Totally something we should emulate, Tinyhands. Totally.

Trump's hands are so tiny he can hardly hold his copy of "1984." You may quote me.

[tblue37]

71. And to think how often the right wing has insisted that *Obama* plans to lock

Americans up in FEMA camps. Trump actually does want to do that, but they can't get enough of him.

[kentauros]

97. That's because then it's not -them-, it's us.

And some of them want the legal right to murder liberals...

[Paladin]

39. Stasi City. Brings to mind the superb movie, "The Lives Of Others."

Genuinely disturbing.

[Eugene]

40. "Everybody’s their own cop in a way."

So we're going all the way down that rabbit hole.

The only thing missing from Trump's police state is a government apparatus
to track all the suspicious persons. The deportation round-up squads are
a nod in that general direction.

Take your pick of historic examples. The Inquisition, The Third Reich,
The Soviet Union. That list goes on and on.

If Trump's Teabagger supporters are paying attention, they should be
scared out of their wits.

[Old Union Guy]

42. Scariest thing he's said so far, and that's saying a lot.

Now everybody is potentially on "the list".

[Auggie]

43. +1,000,000

[Glimmer of Hope]

45. Yep. And he doesn't even know the ramifications of such an idea.

[Old Union Guy]

58. Are you certain of that? I really don't think so.

Maybe what you said is true of a lot of Trump voters, but the man is no fool.

[JBoy]

44. Donald Trump behaves suspiciously, but is neither my friend nor neighbor.

Can I still turn him in?

[Igel]

46. Ever hear the name Joey Meek?

He was brought up on federal charges last September for failing to report what he know would likely be a crime.

DUers had called for his head for quite a while before that. He knew and he didn't inform. When he was charged, nobody defended him. Nobody said it was like Hitler's Germany. It was right. It was good. It was justice.



Meeks didn't report on what he'd heard about a possible impending mass shooting.

DU's consensus was that he was morally reprobate for allowing such speech to go unreported. How dare he not betray his friend's confidence or boasting?

He'd heard Dylann Roof saying what he might or would do.

Meeks plead not guilty. On May 2, 2016, it was announced he'd reached a plea deal so he could plead guilty. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/05/02/prosecution-case-against-dylann-roof-gets-stronger-friend%E2%80%99s-guilty-pleas

We thought it a moral obligation when it suited us, when Meeks failed to report on a loony-tunes white male. From what I read here, it's apparently a crime against humanity to report on people when they're an oppressed minority, even if it might save lives. I wonder if Mateen's victims had been all black if views would be different, or if Omar Mateen had been "Connor Martin", a white 29-year-old evangelical Xian from an upper middle class family.

Now, is Trump speaking in this limited a fashion? Who the hell knows. His speech is both hyperbolic and elliptical. ("Hyperbolic" = exaggerated, 'elliptical' = marked by the presence of ellipsis or recoverable word deletion).

[tblue37]

73. How about THIS story?

http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2016/04/18/kids-arrest-outrages-murfreesboro-community/83181068/

"Kids' arrest outrages Murfreesboro community"

Police handcuffed multiple students, ages 6 to 11, at a public elementary school in Murfreesboro on Friday, inspiring public outcry and adding fuel to already heightened tensions between law enforcement and communities of color nationwide <emphasis added>.

The arrests at Hobgood Elementary School occurred after the students were accused of not stopping a fight that happened several days earlier off campus <emphasis added>. A juvenile center later released the students, but local community members now call for action — police review of the incident and community conversation — and social justice experts across the country use words such as "startling" and "flabbergasted" in response to actions in the case.

Parents and community members sharply criticized the arrests of the students at a church meeting Sunday. The Murfreesboro police chief on Sunday cited the incident as a learning experience, a chance to "make things better so they don't happen again." The city manager said Sunday: "If something needs to be corrected, it will be."

It remains unclear exactly how many children were arrested. State law prohibits the release of juvenile law enforcement records, and police have denied a media request for the information. Murfreesboro police didn't say what state law the kids violated, but parents of several of the arrested children say the kids were charged with "criminal responsibility for conduct of another," which according to Tennessee criminal offense code includes incidents when a "person fails to make a reasonable effort to prevent" an offense <emphasis added>.

SNIP

Handcuff little 6-year-old kids in front of all their friends at school because they failed to step in and stop a fight that a bunch of other, older kids were involved in. Heck, many of those kids were not even at the scene of the fight--they just lived in the neighborhood. And since when are little kids responsible for breaking up fights that they have nothing to do with?

[yourout]

47. I truely think he is trying to throw the election by saying the most bombastic nonsense....

he can come up with.

I don't think he really wants to be President.

[chapdrum]

63. I agree; he doesn't need

the aggravation.

Even if elected, the RNC will find a way to replace him (if we're lucky), or he'll blow it off himself, because he can.

[BigDemVoter]

48. Sounds like the Gestapo. . .

[PersonNumber503602]

49. Oh god.

In a sane world I'd ask if his intent is to NOT get elected, but sadly his supporters will cheer this on.

[CrispyQ]

51. And how exactly is he going to know if someone has suspicions?

What a fucking train wreck.

[FSogol]

52. Trump's Gestapo = Trumptapo

[OxQQme]

53. It Can't Happen Here - Sinclair Lewis

>With his careful mix of plainspoken honesty and reactionary delusion, Trump is following an old rhetorical playbook, one defined and employed successfully in the 1936 presidential campaign of Senator Berzelius “Buzz” Windrip.
In the Windrip campaign’s promotional book “Zero Hour,” Windrip laid out the classic nativist call to action that Trump would pick up nearly word-for-word:

"My one ambition is to get all Americans to realize that they are, and must continue to be, the greatest Race on the face of this old Earth, and second, to realize that whatever apparent differences there may be among us, in wealth, knowledge, skill, ancestry or strength–though, of course, all this does not apply to people who are racially different from us–we are all brothers, bound together in the great and wonderful bond of National Unity, for which we should all be very glad."

After Windrip’s coup at the Democratic convention, he won a three-way race when the other two candidates split the reasonable vote. Once elected, President Windrip appealed directly to his core constituency of un-prosperous and resentful white men to help him repress dissent and bring fascism to America. It’s a chilling historical lesson, even though it didn’t actually happen.<

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/29/it_really_can_happen_here_the_novel_that_foreshadowed_donald_trumps_authoritarian_appeal/

If you haven't read it, you should.
just saying.....

[onecaliberal]

55. An evil hate spewing piece of shit should be flown to the ISIS doorstep

Then you can put your money where your stupid god damn mouth is.

[truthisfreedom]

56. Dear FBI, there's a suspicious demagogue ranting like a fat balding combover version of hitler

I think you should really check him out. He's obviously up to no good and he's really harshing everybody's mellow.

[King_Klonopin]

94. Awesome post !!!!!!!! nt

[Metric System]

57. There's no difference between Trump and Hillary.

SARCASM

[TrollBuster9090]

59. The scumbag and his team of sychophants had a whole day to come up with a telepromter speech

...and that was the best they could come up with? Recycled Big Brother speeches from 1984?

[Jack Rabbit]

62. Have Mr. Trump's neighbors reported any suspicious characters?

No? Round 'em up!

[King_Klonopin]

65. Holy Shit -- that is amazingly fascist ! He gets more awful by the day... nt

[tblue37]

69. Good lord. He really is full of fascist ideas, isn't he? nt

[BlueStater]

76. I don't know why some people here think he's intelligent.

He has the vocabulary of a fourth grader, doesn't know shit about foreign policy or how government works, thinks Afghanistan is called "Afghan", etc.

The guy is as dumb as a fucking rock.

[Vinca]

77. And batshit crazy.

[liberal N proud]

78. A whole new way of dealing with neighborhood disputes

[tavernier]

79. I'm on Amazon Prime, free shipping,

so I've been doing most of my shopping online. Lots of packages arriving every day. And all my gardening tools are in the garage, so I'm spending time in and out of there during growing season.

I had better start putting on a little makeup when I go out, now that I know I will be "watched". Vanity before political correctness.

[jberryhill]

81. We have plenty of folks here who believe that sort of thing

[Fumesucker]

93. I see this as just a natural progression

The authorities have been encouraging children to turn in their parents for at least thirty years now.

[Odin2005]

82. This is Fascism, folks.

[Auggie]

90. My first thought when I saw this article

[Greensix1]

84. Not a close neighbor

There is a person, who may be part of an organized crime ring, spreading hatred, lies and rumors, but he's not a very close neighbor. Should I report him. His name is Trump, Donald, and is more dangerous to my country than any ISIS follower. He wants to change my country into a dictatorship of the insane, racists, and bigots that most people in this country are trying to stop. He should be arrested and interrogated with water board torture to find out his true leanings, affiliations and crimes. He has a history of dealing with organized crime figures and has defrauded hundreds, and possibly thousands of honest hard working Americans. He is criminal of the highest order and I want to report him to the appropriate authorities.

[sinkingfeeling]

85. When did the USA become Germany in the 1930s?

[RobinA]

98. Well, I Got a Passport

in 2007, thinking things were looking like Germany in the '30's...

[Uben]

86. This scum wanted to sell property to Khadafi in the U.S.

Trump is am American traitor and should be deported NOW!

[yellowcanine]

87. I guess this also means not reporting "unregistered Muslims" in Trump's America.

[yurbud]

89. somebody who gets quite a few packages might also be setting up an ebay business

[Fumesucker]

92. You can tell the nice DARE officer about your parents smoking pot

He just wants to help them.