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chernabog

(480 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:15 PM Jun 2016

Orlando shooter was reportedly a regular at Pulse and Had a Profile on Gay dating App

Source: Gawker

Early Sunday morning, Omar Mateen shot and killed 49 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, perpetrating the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history. Mateen, his father explained the next day, had repeatedly been angered by the sight of two men kissing. But according to witnesses, Mateen was also a regular at the club and exchanged messages with at least one gay man on a gay dating app.



Read more: http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316

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Orlando shooter was reportedly a regular at Pulse and Had a Profile on Gay dating App (Original Post) chernabog Jun 2016 OP
So he may have killed others previously. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #1
Care to explain that jump? ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #6
I know it's cliche to say he had repressed homoerotic thoughts or something ck4829 Jun 2016 #2
Maybe he was being cheated on... EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #3
Fuckin' religion. Fuckin' NRA-bought-and-paid-for Congress. nt valerief Jun 2016 #4
ditto! mdbl Jun 2016 #5
Cover for Action PeoViejo Jun 2016 #7
or maybe he was lashing out LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #8
That was my very first thought. Nt duhneece Jun 2016 #17
He posted duck-faced selfies Reter Jun 2016 #9
Um alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #11
This is a duck-faced selfie: Reter Jun 2016 #15
I know what a duck-faced selfie is alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #20
does it make a difference? The people he slaughtered are still dead. olddad56 Jun 2016 #10
and he pledged allegiance to ISIS in the middle of the carnage RussBLib Jun 2016 #16
From what I've gathered, he was weird - maybe he sent off bad vibes, couldn't get laid. closeupready Jun 2016 #19
As a gay man, um, yes it does matter. It gives insight into motive. closeupready Jun 2016 #18
Even if he was not LGBT, it should be reported in the media that he was Midnight Writer Jun 2016 #12
The same and worse? As a gay person? truthisfreedom Jun 2016 #13
Yes, according to their fundamentalist ideology. Midnight Writer Jun 2016 #14

ck4829

(37,677 posts)
2. I know it's cliche to say he had repressed homoerotic thoughts or something
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jun 2016

But you never know.

I also think that maybe he thought of using the app and going to Pulse to murder gay people individually, like a mission oriented serial killer.

I guess another mass killer, James Holmes, also threw around the idea of being a serial killer before settling on killing as many people as possible in a single event.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Holmes_%28mass_murderer%29#Events_leading_to_the_shooting

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
3. Maybe he was being cheated on...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jun 2016

And in the carnage you'll find the two people he was really after...

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
7. Cover for Action
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:43 PM
Jun 2016

Perhaps he was creating a persona so as to not look out of place, to case the club and plan his movements.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
8. or maybe he was lashing out
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jun 2016

at his repressed homosexuality. Its not uncommon to do, unfortunately. And no, I don't mean to this degree, but a lot of the most virulent anti-gay voices are themselves gay.

duhneece

(4,507 posts)
17. That was my very first thought. Nt
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:27 AM
Jun 2016

Self hate due to father's condemnation Then his religion's condemnation ...

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
20. I know what a duck-faced selfie is
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:50 AM
Jun 2016

How it relates to the subject matter of the OP, on the other hand, remains a mystery.

RussBLib

(10,623 posts)
16. and he pledged allegiance to ISIS in the middle of the carnage
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:43 AM
Jun 2016

just like ISIS has been asking its "soldiers" to do. I do wonder if he went there specifically to kill some people that he had been having gay sex with. A way to cover some of his tracks, but why would he care if he was going to die in the attack?

Rachel Maddow appropriately called this "a war." The US has indeed been bombing the crap out of areas in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc., and this is one way they can strike back at us. Would they quit if we withdrew from that region? Likely not in my opinion. They have some really convoluted ideas about Islam and seem to want everyone to submit. That ain't gonna happen, so the next best thing is to just terrorize us.

Sorry, just kinda rambling.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
19. From what I've gathered, he was weird - maybe he sent off bad vibes, couldn't get laid.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jun 2016

It happens. I recall going to gay clubs as a youngster, and some of the hottest guys would strike out, repeatedly.

A possible factor amongst others perhaps?

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
18. As a gay man, um, yes it does matter. It gives insight into motive.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:39 AM
Jun 2016

Pretty basic info to an investigation, 101.

Midnight Writer

(25,380 posts)
12. Even if he was not LGBT, it should be reported in the media that he was
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:03 AM
Jun 2016

Especially since ISIS is promoting him as a "hero".

In fact, there should be stories planted in the media about all of these mass shooters, casting them as the same (and worse) as those they hate so much.

Midnight Writer

(25,380 posts)
14. Yes, according to their fundamentalist ideology.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:33 AM
Jun 2016

He should also be portrayed as an alcohol user, which witnesses say he was.

The idea is to deny him the status of martyr and hero to any who would admire and emulate his actions.

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