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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:21 PM Jun 2016

McCain: Obama 'Directly Responsible' for Orlando Shooting

Source: ABC News

Republican Sen. John McCain said that President Barack Obama is "directly responsible" for the mass shooting in Orlando, Florida, because Obama has allowed the growth of the Islamic State group on his watch.

McCain, who lost to Obama in the 2008 presidential election, made the comment to reporters Thursday while Obama was in Orlando visiting with the families of those killed in Sunday's attack and some of the survivors.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/mccain-obama-directly-responsible-orlando-shooting-39912739





He's as bad as Trump.
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McCain: Obama 'Directly Responsible' for Orlando Shooting (Original Post) geek tragedy Jun 2016 OP
Apparently his bitterness hasn't abated, over the years Siwsan Jun 2016 #1
the man who gave us Palin has become Trump nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #2
Not A Hero said what? Dawson Leery Jun 2016 #3
What a damn F'en fool McCain is. Unfit to serve!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2016 #4
Right, because it's not like people were... anoNY42 Jun 2016 #5
it's also Obama's fault this guy was a self-loathing nutjob geek tragedy Jun 2016 #6
Everything is Obama's fault. Everything. AngryOldDem Jun 2016 #10
All that is wrong with America started the day of Obama Inauguration. IADEMO2004 Jun 2016 #75
What the fuck???!?!? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #54
you don't recognize snark? nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #65
Apparently I'm slow today. It's been a long day. You forgot the sarcasm thingy, too. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #71
I forgot it, will add. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #73
Maybe McCain means that the shooter was mad that Obama kept claiming he (Obama) wasn't a Muslim? anoNY42 Jun 2016 #93
And by leaving Iraq ISIS got access too the Internet underpants Jun 2016 #37
What is it with this bullshit? AngryOldDem Jun 2016 #7
Total fucking idiot! nt 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #8
It happened on Obama's watch Liberalagogo Jun 2016 #9
Well John, maybe if you were a better solider you wouldn't have been captured Hawaii Hiker Jun 2016 #11
Oh, go drop a bomb on your own flight deck, you silly old man. n/t malthaussen Jun 2016 #12
It's too bad he was captured Plucketeer Jun 2016 #13
Captured by Republicans / Trump? I hope you are not referring to his Vietnam War capture ... Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #23
Time for You to Go, Fool Night Watchman Jun 2016 #14
Retirement time. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #15
Assenine RogerM Jun 2016 #16
Well Sure It Is Johnny..... Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #17
McCain is pathetic. His "Country First" presidential campaign chose Sarah Palin as a running mate. LS_Editor Jun 2016 #18
I still chuckle when reminded of that ! What an idiot :) Both of them ! OnDoutside Jun 2016 #19
I still seethe when I think of that. 3catwoman3 Jun 2016 #32
Fingers crossed that you'll get your wish in November ! OnDoutside Jun 2016 #39
No, it is nonexistent! nt 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #34
McCain:“There is not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shias,... AKing Jun 2016 #20
McCain is clueless. It has been happening since 632, the year Muhammad died. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #22
Groan. Stop embarrassing yourself, John, tavernier Jun 2016 #21
He's walking back his comments. AngryOldDem Jun 2016 #24
it's been Obama's policies, not Obama himself, that are directly responsible for ISIS. AlbertCat Jun 2016 #28
Perhaps now Mr McCain will share his "secret plan" for defeating terror in the Mideast . . . Journeyman Jun 2016 #25
Bitter much old man? rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #26
So *by his own logic*, McCain votes to make weapons available to domestic Islamic terrorists. nt villager Jun 2016 #27
Maybe this election it'll be his turn to talk to an emtpy chair.... fantase56 Jun 2016 #29
He'll have too atreides1 Jun 2016 #41
The guy's lost it. elleng Jun 2016 #30
and fuck him too Solly Mack Jun 2016 #31
WTH?? I thought McCain had a modicum of common sense. ailsagirl Jun 2016 #33
Let's see if I have this straight. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #35
Trust Buster - you got that right! asiliveandbreathe Jun 2016 #45
+1,000,000 atreides1 Jun 2016 #46
Sure, go ahead. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #49
Well said and thanks for the post. classof56 Jun 2016 #83
Now McCain says "I misspoke". It was not Obama himself but his national security decisions. Senator applegrove Jun 2016 #36
I never saw evidence of intergrity in the first place Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #52
I meant he was a maverick. He followed his own core (which I did not always agree with) . applegrove Jun 2016 #60
Maybe it is just me Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #85
You may be right. I just saw him give in completely to the kool-aid on the economy applegrove Jun 2016 #88
McCain is a... CherokeeDem Jun 2016 #38
My memory fails at times. Wellstone ruled Jun 2016 #40
Yes, and if memory serves ME correctly... hamsterjill Jun 2016 #62
Gee Whiz, Wellstone ruled Jun 2016 #84
Panderer mccain - AZ has moved past this old man.. asiliveandbreathe Jun 2016 #42
And Sherman A1 Jun 2016 #43
There are so many times DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #44
He always did think bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #47
Gee...I'm wondering if he'll be on all the Sunday shows AGAIN n/t hibbing Jun 2016 #48
Republicans also think that Rocknrule Jun 2016 #50
He is senile n/t Mira Jun 2016 #51
He's a fucking vermin! A piece of shit. And he faces a formidable opponent this year who I hope will Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #53
Shut up and get off my fucking lawn, you old senile dweeb world wide wally Jun 2016 #55
The killer has been spouting about terror mainstreetonce Jun 2016 #56
Miserable decrepit old fuck n/t doc03 Jun 2016 #57
Looks like the Republicans are formulating their election strategies. jalan48 Jun 2016 #58
he was a piece of shit as a pilot... dhill926 Jun 2016 #59
Well said. narnian60 Jun 2016 #77
Has John ever figured out who he met with in Syria? gordianot Jun 2016 #61
What a fucking lying sack of shit. blackspade Jun 2016 #63
Fuck you, you senile old fuck. geardaddy Jun 2016 #64
Between this and his "build that dang wall" ad... SaschaHM Jun 2016 #66
he has to pander to the Trump crowd to win the Republican primary. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #68
Serves him right. SaschaHM Jun 2016 #78
does he support trump?! Kimberly1990219 Jun 2016 #67
he apparently shares a brain with Trump nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #70
Well, since it only came into existence with GW Bush, I sinkingfeeling Jun 2016 #69
John McCain--------------- turbinetree Jun 2016 #72
Panamanian strongman Crash McCain strikes again SwankyXomb Jun 2016 #74
Bitter much???? MFM008 Jun 2016 #76
mccain is terrible. Inconsistent and Petty. Did he say the same about bush and 911? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #79
OMFG. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #80
Mccain acuity24 Jun 2016 #81
Fuck McCain. Please support his Dem. challenger Ann Kirkpatrick DesertRat Jun 2016 #82
Shut up, you senile old fuck. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #86
Bush is The One videohead5 Jun 2016 #87
Guess I have to pull this one out again BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #89
McCain is blaming Obama for the rise of ISIS? It was his bad idea to send those Toyotas! spud_demon Jun 2016 #90
The old fart should be blaming Bush. He signed the withdrawal agreement. Vinca Jun 2016 #91
Senile old fool ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #92
Someone on "Morning Joe" just produced a McCain blurb from 2010 that was celebrating the last Vinca Jun 2016 #94
 

anoNY42

(670 posts)
5. Right, because it's not like people were...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jun 2016

willing to kill Americans for Al Qaeda. Or any number of groups prior to the formation of ISIS.

IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
75. All that is wrong with America started the day of Obama Inauguration.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:05 PM
Jun 2016

there are those who say.

and they are a load of poo.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
73. I forgot it, will add.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

Though in my defense, the Internet has gotten pretty sad when such statements could reflect someone's actual beliefs.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
37. And by leaving Iraq ISIS got access too the Internet
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jun 2016

If we'd just left 30,000 troops there we could have cleared all the Internet cafes. Problem solved.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
7. What is it with this bullshit?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jun 2016

Does everyone in the GOP now feel obligated to parrot whatever Trump says?

And while we're laying blame, John, how's about your good friends George and Dick? That's where it ALL started, if we're being honest here.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
9. It happened on Obama's watch
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jun 2016

Hmmmmmm....what happened under a certain Rethuglican President's watch? Did McSenile say that it was that President's fault?

Hawaii Hiker

(3,165 posts)
11. Well John, maybe if you were a better solider you wouldn't have been captured
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jun 2016

"F" you..

After 9/11, this country united behind President Bush, and this was a guy who stole an election just a year earlier....Whenever a tragedy happens during this admin, Repukes can't wait to play the blame game...

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
13. It's too bad he was captured
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jun 2016

I think the best way he could serve us now is to go sit with darling Sarah and keep an eye on Russia.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
23. Captured by Republicans / Trump? I hope you are not referring to his Vietnam War capture ...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jun 2016

... like tRump referred to him, as a "loser".

LS_Editor

(893 posts)
18. McCain is pathetic. His "Country First" presidential campaign chose Sarah Palin as a running mate.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jun 2016

His judgment is fucked.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
32. I still seethe when I think of that.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

He disqualified himself for fitness for POTUS by that act alone, and the harpy won't go away.

AKing

(511 posts)
20. McCain:“There is not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shias,...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jun 2016

so I think they can probably get along.”

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
22. McCain is clueless. It has been happening since 632, the year Muhammad died.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jun 2016
The historic background of the Sunni–Shia split lies in the schism that occurred when the Islamic prophet Muhammad died in the year 632, leading to a dispute over succession to Muhammad as a caliph of the Islamic community spread across various parts of the world, which led to the Battle of Siffin. The dispute intensified greatly after the Battle of Karbala, in which Hussein ibn Ali and his household were killed by the ruling Umayyad Caliph Yazid I, and the outcry for revenge divided the early Islamic community.
-- Wikipedia

tavernier

(12,383 posts)
21. Groan. Stop embarrassing yourself, John,
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jun 2016

or you'll prove your esteemed candidate correct. (See John? In your party they'll let anybody be the flag bearer.)

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
24. He's walking back his comments.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jun 2016

What he meant to say was that it's been Obama's policies, not Obama himself, that are directly responsible for ISIS.

SOP for these bastards. Say shit and then claim it's not what you meant.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
28. it's been Obama's policies, not Obama himself, that are directly responsible for ISIS.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jun 2016

Well.... that's just as ridiculous as his 1st statement, so...

walking in circles, not "back"

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
25. Perhaps now Mr McCain will share his "secret plan" for defeating terror in the Mideast . . .
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jun 2016

the plan he had ready to go once elected President in 2008.

Or perhaps, as he is today, he can only speak out his ass . . .

atreides1

(16,076 posts)
41. He'll have too
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jun 2016

Because if he loses, there will be no one to talk to him! You ever notice how his wife and children aren't really a part of his life?

He'll either end up staying here in the D.C. area or he'll have one of seven houses to choose from, or was it eight?

ailsagirl

(22,896 posts)
33. WTH?? I thought McCain had a modicum of common sense.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jun 2016

At least, compared to others of his party.

Apparently not.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
35. Let's see if I have this straight.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jun 2016

1) Bush and Cheney destabilized Iraq looking for WMD's that did not exist.

2) Bush and Cheney further destabilized Iraq by throwing all Sunnis out of the government amid military and handing the whole country over to the Iran-friendly Shia.

3) The Iran-friendly Shia government that Bush and Cheney installed refused to re-negotiate the SOFA agreement that Bush and Cheney originally negotiated because Iran wanted the Americans out and the atrocities committed by Blackwater would no longer be shielded by said agreement.

4) The leader of ISIS, which was imprisoned by the U.S. in Iraq during the Bush/Cheney Administration was released in 2004 after being deemed a non-security risk.

5) The Senator from Arizona represents a Party that has refused to declare war on ISIS in the form of a Use of Force Agreement that the President requested 18 months ago.

AND THAT''S THE REASON WHY THIS AMERICAN BORN KILLER, WHO PROFESSED HIS DISGUST FOR OUR DROPPING BOMBS IN IRAQ, DECIDED TO ATTACK GAYS IN ORLANDO.

TIME TO RETIRE OLD MAN.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
45. Trust Buster - you got that right!
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jun 2016

I was pondering the same points with my husband just yesterday...like peeling back the onion...and who started all this - stirred the hornets nest??? You make it all so clear....thank you...

We are mobilizing against McCain as I speak..voter registration efforts everywhere in AZ everyday.....

applegrove

(118,639 posts)
36. Now McCain says "I misspoke". It was not Obama himself but his national security decisions. Senator
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jun 2016

McCain sold his integrity to the GOP in 2008, and he's been a mouse ever since.

applegrove

(118,639 posts)
60. I meant he was a maverick. He followed his own core (which I did not always agree with) .
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jun 2016

Now he's a patsy.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
85. Maybe it is just me
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jun 2016

He claimed to be a maverick, the kewel kidz in Washington certainly thought he was, but every time push came to shove, the best he could manage was an opinion not as batshit insane as his comrades in stupidity. On average, he peddled the usual discredited lies and smears.

applegrove

(118,639 posts)
88. You may be right. I just saw him give in completely to the kool-aid on the economy
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jun 2016

once he was nominated. That is I was thinking. I was also thinking of McCain Feingold.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
40. My memory fails at times.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jun 2016

Seems to me,this all got it's start with President Cheney and his sidekick Georgie the Braindead. Something about over throwing some Guy named Saddam. And then all hell broke loose. Was it not Johnny Boy who was one of the Cheer Leaders in this Stupid Act. And now it is Obama's fault. Of course,according to the Rethugs,everything is his fault. And of course History tells us,ISIS was created in a American run Prison some were in Iraq and their Leadership was the Guys that Viceroy Bremer purged from the Iraq Army and Bathist Party. Seems to me this all went down under Cheney and Braindead.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
62. Yes, and if memory serves ME correctly...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jun 2016

Wasn't there also a time limit imposed by the war vote on how long we could be in Iraq? And Obama had to stick to that time table to get us out of there?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
84. Gee Whiz,
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jun 2016

believe the answers are yes to the time line and believe President Cheney and Braindead Georgie signed off on the Iraq Government's demand that we get our sh-t out of their Country . And of course the former CEO of Haliburton complied .

Maybe McGrumpy found a different Revised History in some Texas History Book. Nah!

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
42. Panderer mccain - AZ has moved past this old man..
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:14 PM
Jun 2016

Just go away - vile and vicious rhetoric doesn't work anymore for those of us who can see through this piece of crap...

Mobilizing DEM voters here in AZ - maybe we can get a morphing of McCain and trump in an AD!

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
43. And
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jun 2016

Senator, just what was Your vote on the resolution to authorize the use of force in Iraq, back in the Bush era?

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
50. Republicans also think that
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:25 PM
Jun 2016

Clinton was president on 9/11
Obama was president when the economy tanked
Bush killed bin Laden

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
53. He's a fucking vermin! A piece of shit. And he faces a formidable opponent this year who I hope will
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jun 2016

kick his tired ass.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
56. The killer has been spouting about terror
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jun 2016

Since he was a child. His self radicalization far precedes Obama.

John McCain. Resign. Save the cost of a lost election.

dhill926

(16,337 posts)
59. he was a piece of shit as a pilot...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jun 2016

he was a piece of shit as a senator, he was a piece of shit as a presidential candidate....and he's still a piece of shit. Desperate and out of touch.....fuck him!

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
63. What a fucking lying sack of shit.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jun 2016

He is one of the ones directly responsible based on his IWR vote which started this whole ISIS mess.
Douche bag....

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
66. Between this and his "build that dang wall" ad...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jun 2016

He's not making it difficult for Kirkpatrick to chain him together with Trump. I hope she kicks his ass in November.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
68. he has to pander to the Trump crowd to win the Republican primary.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:56 PM
Jun 2016

Arizona produces some real winners on the GOP side.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
78. Serves him right.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jun 2016

He created this craziness by enabling Sarah Palin. If he facing a tough primary opponent this go round?

sinkingfeeling

(51,453 posts)
69. Well, since it only came into existence with GW Bush, I
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jun 2016

Guess it would have grown since Obama was president.

acuity24

(6 posts)
81. Mccain
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jun 2016

It's always so sad watching McCain carry on.
Somebody should go ahead and tell him he didn't win the presidency .

videohead5

(2,172 posts)
87. Bush is The One
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jun 2016

That signed the agreement to pull our troops out of Iraq.it was Bush's fault for going into Iraq in the first place with false made up BS about WMD's.

 

spud_demon

(76 posts)
90. McCain is blaming Obama for the rise of ISIS? It was his bad idea to send those Toyotas!
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jun 2016

I remember McCain going on and on about needing to support the Syrian rebels back in 2011. All the shit we sent them went to ISIS in the end.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
91. The old fart should be blaming Bush. He signed the withdrawal agreement.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jun 2016

Imagine where we'd be if we had McCain and Palin these past 8 years. A McCain loss in November would be almost as good as a Trump loss.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
94. Someone on "Morning Joe" just produced a McCain blurb from 2010 that was celebrating the last
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:21 AM
Jun 2016

troops leaving Iraq and suggested George Bush deserved credit for it. Someone needs to tell the old coot about all the new-fangled methods of recording things FOREVER.

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