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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 07:34 PM Jun 2016

Oprah endorses Hillary Clinton: 'It’s a seminal moment for women'

Source: LA Times

Oprah Winfrey is backing Hillary Clinton's presidential run, emphasizing the historic nature of a female presumptive nominee.

“Regardless of your politics, it’s a seminal moment for women,” Winfrey told "Entertainment Tonight" at the premiere of her new show, “Greenleaf.”

If a woman can step into the position of leader of the free world, anything is possible, Winfrey said. “I really believe that is going to happen,” Winfrey said.

Winfrey, one of the most successful women in media and a prominent philanthropist, joins several celebrities who have pledged support for Clinton, including actors George Clooney and Kerry Washington.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-oprah-endorses-clinton-i-m-with-1466081495-htmlstory.html

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Oprah endorses Hillary Clinton: 'It’s a seminal moment for women' (Original Post) onehandle Jun 2016 OP
Did Hillary get a free car??? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #1
Yes, this one: femmocrat Jun 2016 #3
Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!! Gomez163 Jun 2016 #4
Bazinga! n/t Ineeda Jun 2016 #5
I thought it was just the furniture they got to keep Major Nikon Jun 2016 #8
heehee 840high Jun 2016 #9
A ride worthy of the Lady :-) The Green Manalishi Jun 2016 #19
Turn around three times and spit. iandhr Jun 2016 #20
Seminal? Sanity Claws Jun 2016 #2
Right greymattermom Jun 2016 #6
Any suggestions? groundloop Jun 2016 #7
Singular. Pivotal. Fledgeling. Glass-ceiling-shattering. /nt localroger Jun 2016 #11
Pivotal ftw. mahina Jun 2016 #26
Phrasing! CanadaexPat Jun 2016 #13
Seminal eh? avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #31
Both come from the Latin word for 'seed' muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #40
LOL avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #43
Thx O Cryptoad Jun 2016 #10
Imagine my surprise spiderpig Jun 2016 #12
Ummm.... Oprah. Sweetness. Arguably well- intentioned. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #14
K&R! stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #15
kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2016 #16
The easy choice. chapdrum Jun 2016 #17
What Oprah suggested here is the same as... ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #18
+1 nt phazed0 Jun 2016 #25
I agree alarimer Jun 2016 #42
I see, now Hillary's been anointed by the almighty. How could she lose now? YOHABLO Jun 2016 #21
I'm so over Oprah. phylny Jun 2016 #29
I find her narcissistic .. and a fraud. No one humble puts their picture on their own magazine. YOHABLO Jun 2016 #32
Especially every single month TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #60
Didn't she use to be on tv? TrueDemVA Jun 2016 #53
Both 'anointed' and 'almighty' are multi-syllabic, so I empathize with your accidental misuse of bot LanternWaste Jun 2016 #45
Seriously? What about those of us who could care less who Celebrities Endorse? KoKo Jun 2016 #22
What about you? If you're not interested just ignore it anigbrowl Jun 2016 #49
Is she going to give her a car? MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #23
Why did I read this as... retrowire Jun 2016 #24
Would it have been a special moment if Carly Florina had been nominated? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #27
and apparently any woman will do Pharaoh Jun 2016 #28
When Oprah moved to town maggies farm Jun 2016 #30
And HRC is just another Oprah. chapdrum Jun 2016 #48
She tries to present herself as some kind of intellectual .. she's not. She just has a lot of money. YOHABLO Jun 2016 #33
You and your family are less safe thanks to HRC's program for ME regime change brentspeak Jun 2016 #34
And Jill Stein isn't? blackspade Jun 2016 #35
First time a woman runs and will be President. onehandle Jun 2016 #36
She hasn't won yet. blackspade Jun 2016 #37
And utterly obnoxious, too. chapdrum Jun 2016 #50
She's the first female nominee from a major party. Meaning, the first one ever to have a shot of lunamagica Jun 2016 #55
Jill Stein leading the way didn't deminish... blackspade Jun 2016 #56
Leading the way? How? lunamagica Jun 2016 #57
Sigh.... blackspade Jun 2016 #58
Please, enlighten me lunamagica Jun 2016 #61
Oprah endorses Hillary Clinton: 'It’s a seminal moment for women' ... Jopin Klobe Jun 2016 #38
Yup. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #44
The way I interpret what Oprah's saying.... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #39
not very seminal for working class and/or impoverished women. Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #41
Why is this word so childishly questioned? whatthehey Jun 2016 #46
Excellent! nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #47
"A seminal moment for women" anigbrowl Jun 2016 #51
Yes it is funny and horrifying whatthehey Jun 2016 #59
I don't think you get my point anigbrowl Jun 2016 #62
Of course I did. That's only a secondary meaning whatthehey Jun 2016 #63
Really. So who performs an act of insemination? anigbrowl Jun 2016 #64
Just money supporting money. Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #52
Endorsing her not on politics but gender... peace13 Jun 2016 #54

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
40. Both come from the Latin word for 'seed'
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:33 AM
Jun 2016

But if you think of bodily fluids when you hear 'seminal' in another context, I can't stop you ...

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
14. Ummm.... Oprah. Sweetness. Arguably well- intentioned.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:32 PM
Jun 2016

But precisely the WRONG word.

>>>'It’s a seminal moment for women'>>>>>


And.... truly... not well thought-out at ALL.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
17. The easy choice.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jun 2016

Practically anyone vs. Trump is going to get endorsed.

As to the women: At least we have sterling examples of leadership in Albright and Rice.

A teenager can see they're just as bad as their male counterparts.

But it'll be different with HRC.

Blech.

 

ThinkCritically

(241 posts)
18. What Oprah suggested here is the same as...
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 08:45 PM
Jun 2016

if you vote for someone just because they are gay, or black, or Latino... She even said “Regardless of your politics". So policies no longer matter? I mean, I absolutely support women and hope to one day have a woman president (which will not only be huge in the US but will send a very loud message to our enemies in the middle east), but for the office of the president, we HAVE to look at their character and policies no matter if they are a woman or a man. If we want to be truly equal, we should vote for people based on their merits, experience, and ability. ANY person qualified should be able to go for it.

(PS, I'm not saying Hillary isn't qualified, doesn't have the merits or the experience... Just saying Oprah's statement and reasoning isn't responsible. You can use that argument for other people who aren't qualified, like Sarah Palin for example.)

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
42. I agree
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:25 AM
Jun 2016

At this point, I'm not voting FOR anyone. I'm just voting against Trump. I want HIM to lose by a landslide, to send a message to the GOP and to the approximately 50% (possibly less, I'm just throwing out a number) of American who are irredeemably hateful. I want THOSE people to lose big. I want to humiliate them. And maybe it's more humiliating to them if Clinton wins, than if, say Gary Johnson does.

Which, I admit, is also a terrible reason for voting because it means overlooking the not-insubstantial flaws of the Democratic candidate.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
32. I find her narcissistic .. and a fraud. No one humble puts their picture on their own magazine.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jun 2016

TrueDemVA

(250 posts)
53. Didn't she use to be on tv?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jun 2016

Just kidding. Yeah, I thought she was retired, except for a magazine which I assume is about her, b/c she is on every cover.

I didn't know people still care about what she has to say.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
45. Both 'anointed' and 'almighty' are multi-syllabic, so I empathize with your accidental misuse of bot
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:07 PM
Jun 2016

Being that 'anointed' and 'almighty' are each multi-syllabic, I empathize with your accidental misuse of both. If used purposefully though, I yet empathize with your petulance and peevishness.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
22. Seriously? What about those of us who could care less who Celebrities Endorse?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

If you base your opinion and voting on what any celebrity tells you then you've given up on doing thinking on your own.

Better to do your own reasearch... and it's pretty easy these days with simple searches of their stands on issues you care about.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
49. What about you? If you're not interested just ignore it
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:31 PM
Jun 2016

I personally don't care two hoots about Oprah's endorsement (I came into the thread to make a side joke) and while I don't think the endorsements of celebrities or business people mean too much I don't blame people who find that information useful, and I don't necessarily think that those who incorporate it have stopped doing any thinking of their own.

But I don't understand your post title. What about you? Would you like someone to start a thread about what you think so you feel more important?

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
27. Would it have been a special moment if Carly Florina had been nominated?
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jun 2016

Just because she's a woman doesn't mean she's the right one. Stupid pointless narrative.

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
28. and apparently any woman will do
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 09:51 PM
Jun 2016

Oh......

I would love a woman president, but she ain't it.....

I'd rather have Oprah !!! By a longshot.

 

maggies farm

(79 posts)
30. When Oprah moved to town
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jun 2016

For that last 15 years I have earned my livelihood in some of the wealthiest zip codes in the U.S. Hope Ranch in Santa Barbara, and the nearby unincorporated area called Montecito.

I won't name drop my clients (Oprah is not one), but I work for multi millionaires and some billionaires.

Oprah Winfrey lives down the road from me. Regardless of her past she is now an oligarch.

She quickly raised eyebrows by her extreme water consumption for her estate lawns.

She is not as conspicuous as her initial arrival, but still remains an over the top consumer.

Drought in Southern California? Does not exist to the ultra wealthy. They avoid excessive use penalties by the local water district by draining the water wells of nearby Santa Ynez over the mountains and elsewhere. Daily you see water trucks coming and going.

Oprah Winfrey 'hires $15K water tankers to hose the garden of her 40-acre estate' amid rising California drought restrictions

"In an effort to reduce her bills from the Montecito Water District - which have increasingly surged over the last three years as a record drought continues to cripple California - Oprah Winfrey has reportedly been sending a fleet of water tankers to her 40-acre Santa Barbara property to maintain her gardens."


How the Golden State’s 1 percenters are avoiding the drought.

"The top three users for Montecito in 2012/13 guzzled close to 30 million gallons alone. “That’s enough water to provide the needs of a small town,” says Mosby."


The novelty of partisan democratic oligarchs collapsed when I got involved in a local water issue. Montecito Hot Springs is in part what attracted people to the newly formed state of California, “Come for good health of the climate and take of the medicinal waters”.

The controversy of the springs unfolded when a wealthy resident that lived near the springs bought the land (and springs) for 6 million dollars. As someone involved with hot springs nearly all my life I took great excitement and tried to convince one client in the merits of once again making these springs available to the public. What I discovered was the plan to actually buy the springs to prevent use and enjoyment. My client told me, "don't worry this project is in good hands all of the donors are democratic”. Much to my dismay when I had a conversation with the primary donor this is what he told me, "if I could I would have bulldozed the springs so no one could ever enjoy the springs again".


New Concerns Emerge Over Historic 462-Acre Parcel in Montecito

This is a case of NIMBY. Democratic funding oligarchs.

Today, over 25 million gallons a year of natural hot spring water are sequestered from the public and are piped and go to Montecito Creek Water Company to irrigate lawns and gardens that rival many parks found in municipalities across the states.

I say eat the rich. These people care little beyond their personal pet projects and their philanthropic dollars very often have conditions attached

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
48. And HRC is just another Oprah.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jun 2016

All superficiality.

But against Trump, likely very easy win.

Yet another manifestation of "Mission Accomplished, Inc."

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
33. She tries to present herself as some kind of intellectual .. she's not. She just has a lot of money.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jun 2016

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
34. You and your family are less safe thanks to HRC's program for ME regime change
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 11:38 PM
Jun 2016

And you and your family are poorer today thanks to the policies she has supported (Bankruptcy "reform" Law; "free trade" deals), but other than that...

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
55. She's the first female nominee from a major party. Meaning, the first one ever to have a shot of
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jun 2016

becoming POTUS. I don't get why so many want to diminish the importance of this. It just seems petty.

She already made history, and is very likely to smash that glass ceiling once and for all. This is BIG, like it or not.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
56. Jill Stein leading the way didn't deminish...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jun 2016

Clinton's accomplishment. Not sure why that is so hard to acknowledge.

LenaBaby61

(6,973 posts)
39. The way I interpret what Oprah's saying....
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:23 AM
Jun 2016

Is that Hillary Clinton, out of ALL of the women known about and running for the presidency--from Stein to Fiorina--actually has a chance to WIN the presidency. Fiorina really never had a chance. She was just window dressing. Jill Stein's got NO chance to win the presidency that I can see, but Humm...Hillary JUST beat Bernie (a male) to became the Democratic nominee for POTUS, so YES if Hillary goes on to win the presidency, she will be the very first woman POTUS of the USA if elected this fall. That's seminal and historic ANY way you slice it.

Again, I definitely agree with Oprah's assessment.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
46. Why is this word so childishly questioned?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jun 2016

Semen is Latin for seed. Words deriving from this root have connotations of originalty, incipient growth, etc. That we use the word for fkuid that contains seeds of potential humans is natural enough, but that's a limited and newer meaning than the root word. Do adults snigger over giving testimony (another word where the reproductive system connotation grew from a common root word as witness to virility, with some potentially dubious assertions about oathtaking)? Liking orchids? Supporting Manchester United? Why the hell be so juvenile with this word based on etymology that isn't even directly descended from the modern cognate?

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
51. "A seminal moment for women"
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jun 2016

A truly bizarre choice of words, especially from someone who runs a reading club. The dumbing down of this country is simultaneously funny and horrifying.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
59. Yes it is funny and horrifying
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jun 2016

seminal
(ˈsɛmɪnəl )



Definitions

Collins English Dictionary
adjective

1. potentially capable of development
2. highly original, influential, and important
3. rudimentary or unformed
4. of or relating to semen ⇒ seminal fluid
5. biology of or relating to seed

I would think it is something with potential for development, and original, influential and important for women.

God help us if Hillary is called to testify again...

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
62. I don't think you get my point
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jun 2016

I have been an unwavering Hillary supporter through the whole primary process. I just find it odd that we're talking of a 'seminal moment for women' when seminal is by definition a biologically masculine term - and just because semen is 4th in the list of definitions doesn't alter that, because all the other meanings are pendant on the metaphor of biological conception. It's a fundamentally sexist adjective and one that I've been working to phase out of my vocabulary for much the same reasons I avoid referring to over-excited people as 'hysterical.'

https://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2014/04/21/dont-say-seminal-its-sexist/ has a more in-depth explanationi f anyone needs one.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
63. Of course I did. That's only a secondary meaning
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jun 2016

The root is a Latin word for seed in general not the fluid that carries it in mammals, and the current English word has far more meanings unrelated to masculinity in the slightest than those narrow medical terms where seminal fluid is the subject.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
64. Really. So who performs an act of insemination?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jun 2016

We have embedded sexism in our society precisely because it is so difficult for people to critically examine their everyday assumptions, and that includes dictionary editors. I've explained this to you twice now and you still don't get it even though it's been spelled out for your in the plainest terms. Apparently popularity trumps semantic content for you.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
54. Endorsing her not on politics but gender...
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jun 2016

.....what century are we living in? Endorse her for her amazing work, her commitment to humanity, for the peace talks that she so tirelessly held..........For her amazing gender! I am a woman and a wife and I would hate to have either of those as my main qualifier of anything!

This is a seminal movement, I mean moment. Darn auto correct! A true testicle errr I mean testament to the times!

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