Game Over: The Sanders Campaign Is Not Trying To Win Over Clinton Superdelegates

[riversedge]

Source: politicususa








Game Over: The Sanders Campaign Is Not Trying To Win Over Clinton Superdelegates

By Sean Colarossi on Thu, Jun 16th, 2016 at 8:31 pm

Bernie Sanders campaign has no plans to try to flip superdelegates to his side.



After months of promising to fight all the way to the Democratic convention in Philadelphia, the Sanders campaign now admits that they are not trying to convince the all-important superdelegates to support the Vermont senator. Campaign manager Jeff Weaver said there are no plans to do so in the near future either.

In an interview on “With All Due Respect,” Weaver said that Sanders is technically still a candidate, but there is no effort to call superdelegates and convince them to reverse their support of presumptive nominee Hillary Clinton.

Video:

Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/16/game-over-sanders-campaign-win-superdelegates.html

---

[DCBob]

1. Progress.

[avaistheone1]

7. Hillary has promised no change.

And I believe her. Thus I have no hope for her presidency.

[Blue_Tires]

49. There's the door then... Later

[avaistheone1]

56. Don't blame me.

That's what she said.

[avaistheone1]

3. I'll believe it when I hear it from Bernie's lips.

But thanks though.

[Renew Deal]

4. I wouldn't believe anything he said

Like " I will do everything possible to defeat Trump". He lied

[840high]

14. Bernie does not lie. Clinton does.

[Renew Deal]

15. Is that statement of his true or false?

[samson212]

20. Which statement?

"I will do everything possible to defeat Trump"? What are you saying, that Bernie has failed to do something specific that you think makes the phrase "everything possible" a lie?

[riversedge]

5. Did he say tonight in his teleconference that he would still go after the SD"s? I missed

it and have not read anything about this issue.

[Plucketeer]

9. KEEP dreamin'!

Where are they gonna go when the hammer drops???????????????????????????????????

[samson212]

19. No, he said the revolution continues!

The speech was mostly about continuing the fight beyond and outside of this primary contest. And defeating Trump. My favorite part was the appeal to voters to become more active in state and local politics, running for office and joining party committees and so forth.

I think that the convention will be the platform for that appeal, and a way to get the party to embrace some of the ideas Bernie has championed, which clearly have broad support amongst Democratic voters (even if a majority prefer Clinton). He doesn't need to gain any delegates to have that platform.

[Ghost Dog]

38. Yes. The aim is to keep the ball that has been set in motion

rolling, while fighting off incipient fascism.

(cf. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016160982 )

[George II]

6. Jeff Weaver was interviewed this afternoon. He was asked bluntly if the Sanders campaign....

...is actively talking to superdelegates to get their support. He said equally bluntly, "not at this time", and "there are no immediate plans to do so."

[Plucketeer]

10. LOL! They don't HAVE TO pursue them anymore!

[okasha]

11. Translation:

"We tried to flip a bunch of them, but they all told us to eff off."

[avaistheone1]

12. Sounds like the Hillary group....

raw and rude.

[okasha]

16. Likely true, I think.

They tried and failed to gin up a "contested" convention. Now Sanders is starting to lose the supers that did support him. He's bleeding away his influence by buckets.

[George II]

17. Even his first Congressional endorsement/superdelegate flipped to Clinton today.

[okasha]

18. I saw that.

I was pretty shocked when Grijalva got behind Sanders to begin with.

[Chicago1980]

21. Sounds like fact...

And you kind of sound like a sore loser.

[mdbl]

25. The only losers are those who treat poliitics like it 's a big game

It's really sad that the winners of this contest seem to think that's all that's important.

[Chicago1980]

39. Winning in November right now is what's important.

It's too bad that so many have sat on the sidelines for so long and now want to complain.

Sure, policies need to be changes, but stomping ones feet like I've seen so many do isn't going to get the job done.

[mdbl]

41. I for one have always been involved in the system

I just don't think berating Bernie or his supporters for trying to improve our party is a good thing.

[Chicago1980]

63. I'm doing neither, but there also has to come a time for reality to set in.

There's nothing wrong with continuing the fight, but that can't be done through whining (and I'm not referring to you, just in general).

[Night Watchman]

8. Shit or Get Off the Pot

I remember that phrase from my high school hockey coach.

[Beacool]

13. So Weaver hasn't completely lost all sense of reality.

Good to know........

[RandySF]

52. Weaver has apparently not been in control for a while now.

I kind of feel bad because I held him responsible for what turned out to be Bernie's antics.

[McKim]

22. This is Not a Game

Stop with the sports analogy already. This is not a game. People's lives depend on the outcomes of this election. This is about who gets health care or education and who does not. This is about who gets a decent living and has a functional family and who does not.
It is only a "game" for those who are very comfortable.

[KPN]

23. +1!!!

You are right. And they don't even get it.

[Danmel]

48. Yes

It is life and death.

[eastwestdem]

24. So, he's staying in the race why?

I guess he is afraid to speak at the convention.

[mdbl]

26. No, he's staying in the race to try and remind those that don't know

what the Democratic Party should really be doing and who they should stand up for.

[DCBob]

28. There is no race.

He could do more by working cooperatively from within than by throwing rocks from without.

[mdbl]

29. Throwing rocks?

By trying to steer the platform to better access to healthcare and education?

[DCBob]

31. He is effectively attacking Hillary and the party by not endorsing her.

[mdbl]

33. Attacking?

we're at war?

[DCBob]

34. Bernie seems to think so. Why doesn't he endorse her?

Its over... time to unite and fight the real war against Trump.

[mdbl]

35. This isn't about Trump

It's about our party, and there will be plenty of time to go after Frump.

[DCBob]

37. It is about Trump.

At the end of the primary process the bickering and campaigning stops and all sides come together around the nominee. The purpose? To defeat the opponent.

[justMYcause]

42. Pretty sure "our party" has spoken...

by a majority - plus 13%. Don't kid yourselves even without superdelegates, it was a landslide.

Also, there is nothing to negotiate. The loser does not DICTATE the end terms... the winner graciously offers to add some items "she" is comfortable with.

Nothing about that Sanders infomercial last night indicated he was giving up or supporting the winner of the contest or being a good team player with that shiny new membership card he has.

The longer this drags on, the more people will abandon Bernie Sanders. The time for his negotiation was at the meeting on Tuesday. Bernie is going to burn his Senate influence next. Lifelong DEMOCRATS won't tolerate his larger than life head and his perceived damage to the Nominee and the Party itself.

I'm sure DEMOCRATS will reconsider allowing a non-member "outsider" to come inside next time.

Your call Senator... Time to do the right and respectable thing, concede, drop-out, support, & unify. Because if HC loses a close Naderesque type election, that history he spoke of last night, will not be the one he envisioned.

#BernedOUT

[Thinkingabout]

43. Yes, our party has made the selection and we stand behind our party, I have been a

Democrat in my lifetime and like our party.

[mdbl]

57. So, we shouldn't srtive to make it better

just sit back and let it steer itself somewhere?

[Thinkingabout]

58. Not if someone os trying to steer it into a ditch.

[mdbl]

59. Don't see why you're worried about that all of a sudden

that's been going on for 30 years now

[Thinkingabout]

60. Maybe to you but not to me.

[BlueMTexpat]

27. That's looking more and more like a failed

strategy in any event ... especially because any flipping of SDs seems to be working to Hillary's benefit. So their latest strategy is to get rid of SDs altogether.

Even if ...

a) that could not affect the 2016 Presidential primary selection process; it could only apply to future elections
b) Hillary has still won the majority of pledged delegates (by hundreds) as well as the popular vote (by millions) and would thus still have a majority of delegates - and popular votes - as a result of the primary process
c) this is a rule change that DNC members would have to vote on; the leadership cannot summarily decide it

Do Bernie & Co. even know how to think logically? Do they even understand democracy? Based on their positions, apparently not.

[mdbl]

30. All these little jabs at Sanders and his supporters

don't wash away the problems i have with shortcomings in some of Clinton's actions and changes in her views on issues over the last 15 years. Her inevitable nomination doesn't make that any better. Your little cartoon doesn't garner much respect for you positions.

[ellennelle]

36. ?

i think your use of 'won' is stretching the definition. it's pretty clear the fix was in way prior to her even declaring, and the party machinery in each and every state saw to it that her candidacy would be a fait accompli.

democracy??

the rule change will occur at the DNC rules committee level; many members and voters have openly called for getting rid of SDs, but with barney frank at the helm of that committee, we'll see how far that goes.

democracy???

from your comment, i'd say you translate 'democracy' to mean 'whoever gets the most votes, wins!' your logic appears to be based solely on 'numbers,' my friend, a dangerous fallacy (see godel, theorems 1 and 2; see also, american sports mentality). fuhgeddabout the SDs endorsing before all candidates had declared, and before a single vote had been cast in any primary or caucus; fuhgeddabout manipulation of the press and orchestration of stories, memes, and incidents (see manufacturing consent); fuhgeddabout stripping voters from the voter roles, shrinking polling places, messing with ballots, likely tinkering with software, and generally suppressing the vote; fuhgeddabout not just putting a thumb on the scale, but outright jumping on it with all fours.

democracy?????

i believe the word you're searching for is oligarchy, hegemonic empire type.

[Laha]

40. You know it's possible to be a sore winner, too?

Right from the beginning the snark and condescension I've witnessed from the Hillary side has far outweighed anything they have tried to label Bernie and his followers with.

I'm pretty tired of the word presumptive.

[Gothmog]

32. That effort was doomed to failure

No super delegate would flip for Sanders

[Thinkingabout]

44. In fact super delegates are flipping, for Hillary, there will be more flipping for Hillary

And there will be an overwhelming number of Super delegates voting for Hillary at the convention. Hillary released her delegates in 2008 and they voted for Obama.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

45. Game has been over for a long time now.

[sangfroid]

46. So lemme see if I got this:

1. Bernie complains about supers, the Hillside laughs and says supers are part of the Democratic Way.

2. Bernie says, "OK, then we'll go after supers," then the Hillside complains he's a hypocrite.

3. Bernie announces, "OK, we won't go after the supers," the Hillside announces the Sander's campaign is over.

So this looks more like a case of, if Bernie says the grass is green, the Hillside announces it's really blue.

[NurseJackie]

47. Looks like a case of ACKNOWLEDGING REALITY to me.

And ... "Hillside"?? Seriously?


#FeelTheUnity

[sangfroid]

50. Then you are incorrect.

Seriously.

[NurseJackie]

51. And you are, uh ... imaginative.

Bernie's no victim. (Except, maybe to his own failings and campaign staffing choices.)

[sangfroid]

53. And

"Only a fool laughs at their own jokes."

[NurseJackie]

54. Why so bitter?

[sangfroid]

61. Bitter? Never.

Everyday I read the worshipful thoughts of the pro-Clinton crowd and I laugh and laugh, their grasp of political ethics and morality is so...unique. Besides, why should I be bitter? I'm going to Philly!

[NurseJackie]

62. Don't forget to bring comfortable shoes, and ...

... bail money.

[JNelson6563]

55. I know someone with the campaign in Vermont.

Staff was let go, the bulk of them, days ago.