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Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:13 AM Jun 2016

Deb Fischer calls for cutting Justice Department funding unless it issues plan on state-level pot ..

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Joseph Morton

WASHINGTON — Sen. Deb Fischer, R-Neb., wants to cut money to the Department of Justice unless it issues a plan for monitoring the effects of state-level pot legalization.

“Marijuana is being transported across state lines and making its way out of states such as Colorado and into Nebraska’s communities,” Fischer said in a press release. “This drug remains an illegal substance on the federal level and in Nebraska, where our law enforcement officers are working hard to stop the crime and violence associated with its transport.”

Fischer has offered an amendment to pending legislation that would cut the funding for the Office of the Deputy Attorney General unless the department issues its plan.

Colorado’s decision to legalize and regulate recreational marijuana has sparked outcries from neighboring states, including Nebraska, that say they are being harmed.

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Deb Fischer calls for cutting Justice Department funding unless it issues plan on state-level pot .. (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2016 OP
White Clay,White Clay,White Clay,White Clay,White Clay,White Clay, IADEMO2004 Jun 2016 #1
I posted about White Clay on June 7th in LBN Omaha Steve Jun 2016 #3
I remember. Thanks for mailing the link. IADEMO2004 Jun 2016 #10
white Clay??? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #11
was curious also and found OS's post rurallib Jun 2016 #14
I just had to google it passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #16
My bad for not posting a link. IADEMO2004 Jun 2016 #19
There's an easy fix to that if she's serious about the illegal substance issue. floriduck Jun 2016 #2
Did you see the comment in the Nebraska paper? TonyPDX Jun 2016 #4
I replied to that comment neohippie Jun 2016 #13
3-4 deaths from cannibus in Nebraska over 2 years. christx30 Jun 2016 #15
I think those deaths were in Colorado neohippie Jun 2016 #20
What's the LD50 for THC? sofa king Jun 2016 #22
Sorry. TonyPDX Jun 2016 #24
Turnabout is fair play SpankMe Jun 2016 #5
If you ever follow some GOP controlled states, the women are the most radical. rladdi Jun 2016 #7
Yes, the GOP is always anxious to cut money from the Departments that actually rladdi Jun 2016 #6
Let's just keep pretending you couldn't buy pot in every state before legalization. nt killbotfactory Jun 2016 #8
How to distract from the automatic weapons ban debate. "Let's cripple the DoJ" is the Rs plan? L. Coyote Jun 2016 #9
Whats the harm? Backwoodsrider Jun 2016 #12
Nebraska's viewpoint Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2016 #23
Nebraska, you keep your Bibles and we'll keep our pot. Democrats_win Jun 2016 #17
Why don't we monitor the affect of guns on human health first? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #18
Another backward thnking Republican. But hey, these thinkers exist on the Democratic side as well. jalan48 Jun 2016 #21

IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
10. I remember. Thanks for mailing the link.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jun 2016

Smells like she is Fischering for money for more prisons to me.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
16. I just had to google it
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:49 AM
Jun 2016

Amazing what the state does to prevent marijuana, yet it is basically endorsing illegal sales of alcohol to Native Americans from the Pine Ridge.

And they complain about violence coming into Nebraska via Colorado's legal sales of marijuana.

Hey, Nebraska, let the Pine Ridge grow pot and maybe you would have less violence. Or not...I understand someone is making a ton of money off the sale of liquor...wink wink.

Here is a link:
http://battleforwhiteclay.org/?page_id=140

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
4. Did you see the comment in the Nebraska paper?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jun 2016

"The news is replete with deaths caused by marijuana intoxication in Colorado. Edibles mainly."

Seems to me that no citizens deserve access to legal cannabis more than Nebraskans.

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
13. I replied to that comment
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jun 2016

There have been 3-4 deaths related to edibles, but the relationship is not direct, 3 of the deaths were self inflicted.

One was the man who shot his wife, after eating some THC candy, which he's claiming caused him to become temporarily insane, which is still questionable because they had a history of marital problems and the wife had previously stated she feared her husband, and the police reported his THC levels were relatively low, so I am not sure how this is equated to the news being replete with deaths due to marijuana.

http://gazette.com/colorado-man-accused-of-killing-wife-after-eating-marijuana-changes-plea/article/1559576

Still over a period of years, a relatively low number if you compared the number of deaths from alcohol, tobacco, opiates, other pharmaceutical drugs like anti-depression related drugs, and then looked at the reduction of opiate related deaths etc... And also consider that there could be other factors related to these, which include, drug interaction with other drugs, persons who may have mental imbalances or pre-existing mental illness, if alcohol was also involved and so on

christx30

(6,241 posts)
15. 3-4 deaths from cannibus in Nebraska over 2 years.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:35 AM
Jun 2016

That's the emergency.
Meanwhile, story came out yesterday about the 48 people that were shot during the 15 hour filibuster about gun crime. Twelve people in that group died. But they don't want to do anything about that.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
22. What's the LD50 for THC?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jun 2016

In 1988 it was a matter of record that a person would have to eat 1,500 pounds of joints in fifteen minutes in order to die from THC poisoning.

https://weedpress.wordpress.com/science/studies/ld50-of-cannabis/

In summary, enormous doses of Delta 9 THC, All THC and concentrated
marihuana extract ingested by mouth were unable to produce death or organ
pathology in large mammals...


http://www.oregon.gov/pharmacy/Imports/Marijuana/StaffReview/ReschedulingCannabis-NOTES_3-10.pdf

So it's not the weed that's killing people, it's stupid people on weed who are killing themselves and others. And guess what? We give those same stupid people guns, cars, unlimited alcohol, cell phones and opiates, with which they kill one another at a rate many thousand times higher than marijuana.

From that point of view it's easier to argue that marijuana is saving lives by preventing people from pursuing those other stupid pursuits.

And I just have to add that it's utter scummery for Nebraska, of all states, who happily protects its right to cross-border sales of alcohol to South Dakotan Indians, to be upset about this. Shame on them.

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
24. Sorry.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jun 2016

The particular murder in Denver doesn't make a persuasive case for being impaired by cannabis, especially since he was able to recall the digital code required to open his gun safe. 3 or 4 deaths due to edibles? When one single death can be positively attributed solely to the influence of cannabis, it will be big news, indeed.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
5. Turnabout is fair play
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

If this zany lady wants to kill the DoJ unless they monitor pot legalization, then it's fair for Democrats to do something similar: withhold DoJ funds until they study the effects of guns on health and society.

rladdi

(581 posts)
6. Yes, the GOP is always anxious to cut money from the Departments that actually
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

need more money. But they support the lobbyists that fund them. Like the NRA. GOP takes millions from the NRA. Its blood money to the GOP, not caring about human life, but bankrolling their pockets. Not one Republicans got on the Senate floor the other night and told a story about anyone that has suffered or experienced a mass murder, not one Republicans. They are so distanced from actual human life. There only wants votes to be elected, then turn to the Lobbyist who shoves big money to them for there votes.
America is actually fed up with the GOP, the November election will reflect the inaction of the Republicans.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. How to distract from the automatic weapons ban debate. "Let's cripple the DoJ" is the Rs plan?
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jun 2016

Never mind that we have a mass shooting every day, we need to focus on pot violence! Or we will make sure you can't fight crime.

This is why Republicans need to go back to grade school for a little education on simple logic. You want to fight crime, you don't defund the cops.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
23. Nebraska's viewpoint
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jun 2016

** Important: I'm explaining what the state thinks in a nutshell-- not agreeing with it **

The state's viewpoint is a) pot is illegal here, b) we want to keep it that way and c) we are spending a lot of time and money policing the border with Colorado for smuggling. When states debated lowering their legal drinking age from 21 -- and the Constitution gives states the right to regulate booze -- the feds said "do it and we'll take your highway funds." Now the state of Colorado has legalized marijuana in contravention of federal statutes, and the feds aren't lifting a finger to sanction Colorado. That seems hypocritical to the State of Nebraska.

Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
17. Nebraska, you keep your Bibles and we'll keep our pot.
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

In other words keep your false religion out of public life.

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