Ohio gun shop owner killed during concealed carry class

[jpak]

Source: Fox news

The owner of an Ohio gun shop was shot and killed when a student in a concealed carry permit class accidentally discharged a weapon, the Cincinnati Enquirer reports.

James Baker was shot in the neck around 1 p.m. Saturday and died at his KayJay Gun Shop in Amelia, the paper reported.

The class is part of a program designed to coach participants on gun safety.

There were about 10 people in the concealed carry class in a room adjacent to where Baker was sitting, according to the Enquirer.

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[Happyhippychick]

1. So I'm guessing that student

got an F

[louis-t]

12. No, he'll be hosting the next class

now that the owner of the current venue is dead.

[FarPoint]

22. Probably passed...

They all pass in Ohio....

[Bettie]

24. Probably got an A+

because he was "standing his ground", even if he didn't know it at the time.

[upaloopa]

2. That could happen to anyone of us when gun nuts around. I really hate our gun culture.

[George II]

6. True story - several years ago I was at a barbeque which had several gun afficionadoes....

....that were planning on shooting guns at targets in the back of the property. Before they went back there they were handling their guns around us all.

I was very very nervous all day, and expressed my thinking that accidents can happen. One of them said, as he was going back to shoot, "we're all experienced with guns, we know what we're doing."

After the FIRST shot back there, he went running toward the house with blood spewing out of his hand. The gun recoiled and split open his thumb.

Such is the level of gun owners' "experience".

[jpak]

14. True story - We were visiting a national forest in Georgia and were approached by a man with a gun

He asked us to show him how to load the gun, because he wanted to "teach his son how to hunt".

We refused.

yup

[George II]

3. Didn't Bob Barr once drop a gun at a gun show and shoot himself in the foot?

[NWCorona]

5. That would surprise me at all lol

[jtuck004]

4. Freddy, always an A student and overachiever, skipped ahead in the material to the chapter on

"How to Act Like A Good Guy With A Gun".

#1 Find something that looks bad and shoot it. You may be wrong, but at least you tried.

[IggleDoer]

7. Here's a thought ....

State Legislatures should pass laws requiring the same safe health and safety standards for gun shows, gunnstores, and shooting ranges that were passed for abortion clinics. To wit:

1). There must be a doctor present whenever guns are handled. That doctor must have staff priveleges at a hospital within five miles of the clinic. He/she must be advanced trauma life support certified.

2). The hallways or aisles of the building must be wide enough to fit two gurneys side-by-side.

3). Access to the building must permit ambulance gurneys to be wheeled inside without difficulty. No stairs.

4). The owner/manager just be on call 24/7, in the event one of his customers has a crisis or needs assistance.

After all State Legislatures are solely interested inmpublic safety .....

Any other restrictions, folks?

[jpak]

9. ...

[demigoddess]

18. amen,

[JI7]

27. what doctor wants to deal with that shit ? there are people they need to take care of

And in this case they put their own life at risk while not really doing anything other than waiting .

It's not like a war zone where they are at least risking their lives in order to save others who have no choice about being there.

[IggleDoer]

35. Not many docs would do this

Just like abolition clinics, the cost of complying with these proposed regulations would be exorbitant and the gun stores, gun shows and shooting ranges might have to shut down. Gun addicts might have to travel hundreds of miles and even cross state lines. Perish the thought!

[Laf.La.Dem.]

8. Thank GOD it was NOT an Assault Rifle Class!

[Hoppy]

10. It was 1957. I was in a youth organization (Name not mentioned as it is a reputable org).

Local head man was a cop and had a shooting range in his basement. The basement was 3/4 finished but had a dirt wall on the forth wall of the basement --- don't ask because I don't know. Anyways, targets were set up in front of the dirt wall and we kids were invited to target shoot in the basement.

My turn and the bullet must have hit a stone in the dirt. Next thing, I am grabbing my neck and feeling something solid. The bullet fragment was removed without serious harm and I still have a small scar. All I could and still can think of is thank god it wasn't my eye.

[shadowrider]

13. ANY firearms instructor that uses live ammo in a classroom setting

whether about gun safety or conceal carry, is an idiot.

[marble falls]

45. Bingo. Why were they carrying live inside not on a range. Who "permits" the teachers?????

[underpants]

15. That's really a shame

Those bullets are expensive.

[Hoyt]

16. Evidence of the quality of concealed carry classes. Most concentrate on laws, so toters will know

when they can shoot an unarmed kid -- think Trayvon Martin -- and what to say to authorities if they do to get away with it.

[packman]

17. And this classic

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"I'm the only one professional enough to carry this Glock 40" and then shots himself.

[tblue37]

31. The musical version of "I JUST F***ing Shot Myself!"

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[TonyPDX]

37. That one never gets old! n/t

[TonyPDX]

38. Don't try this at home! Leave it to the professionals! n/t

[sulphurdunn]

40. It appears as though

he exchanged his loaded gun for one he believed had been cleared. Believing a gun is unloaded unless you've cleared it yourself is a real no-no.

[vkkv]

19. NOT A WORD of this at the NRA main website..

The NRA exists in their own little imaginary world where only bad guys get killed by guns and politicians are things for sale.

[sarisataka]

20. One less?

Not like a gun humping ammosexual counts as a person...

I wish I could say I am surprised at how shallow some liberal's beliefs are. Yet it has been demonstrated over and over that folks who express strong beliefs about gun violence need very little information on a person to change the person's death from tragic to hilarious. Actually they only need one piece of knowledge, knowing not the first thing about the person beside that, and it makes the death cause for celebration.

But I am not surprised by the reaction to this man's death.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

23. Not "our kind" of person

So, no sympathy.



Condolences to the shop owner's family.

[sulphurdunn]

42. No, it isn't funny.

It's both tragic and confusing. According to the article, the victim wasn't even in the room. I don't understand though what live ammunition was doing in the classroom or why someone loaded a gun?

[Vinca]

21. Another example of responsible gun ownership.

And they wonder why we want to take the military weapons away from them.

[billpolonsky]

25. First rule...

Clear the chamber and visually inspect that it is clear.

Basic gun safety.

But I guess your second amendment doesn't specify that.

Too bad, so sad...

[jmowreader]

36. Rule Zero

Do not point the muzzle of your gun at anything you are not willing to destroy. Otherwise...

[LonePirate]

26. Is this a case of live by the sword, die by the sword?

[mwrguy]

28. Yes it is

[Buzz cook]

29. "My thoughts and prayers go out to his family"

There fixed it.

[keithbvadu2]

30. They were playing with live ammo?

That's what passes for gun safety now?

Darwin award candidates.

[struggle4progress]

32. "We must defend our right to read regular news of gun-caused deaths!"

[wysi]

33. Oh the irony

n/t

[Kaleva]

34. I don't see why the gun was loaded when they were practicing weapon malfunction drills

Assuming the student had a semi-auto pistol, using empty magazines would work just fine.

[Mz Pip]

39. This should be a teaching moment

Guns are dangerous. Shit happens, even in a supposedly controlled environment.

[roamer65]

41. It is too easy for this type of incident to happen with a semi-automatic weapon.

That is why I have come to believe they should be highly restricted.

[Cryptoad]

43. GOP~NRA Gun Policy

A Gun for Every Idiot, an Idiot for every Gun!

[pinebox]

46. Sad..........

RIP........

[maxsolomon]

47. is the gun ok?

hopefully it goes on to lead a productive life.