BREAKING: Obama Admin. Releases Unredacted Orlando 911 Call After Outcry

[leftynyc]

Source: Mediaite

The Department of Justice and the FBI has released the unredacted version of the Orlando shooter’s 911 call after tons of outcry for redacting references to ISIS.

Republicans by the score ripped the White House over politically correct concerns, and Paul Ryan demanded the unredacted version be released.

Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/online/breaking-obama-admin-releases-unredacted-orlando-911-call-after-outcry/

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I'm glad they released them unredacted. It was making them look like cowards.

[phazed0]

1. Should never have been redacted. Period. nt

[yeoman6987]

26. Dumb original decision

Glad the citizens demanded transparency.

[SpankMe]

2. Still - Fuck Republicans and their "political correctness" line of attack. n/t

[MosheFeingold]

23. Sure

Be a lot easier if Lynch didn't lead with a glass jaw on this one.

I thought the Repubs were the stupid party.

[840high]

37. +1

[librarylu]

3. The redaction

seemed to be fueling conspiracy theories.

Basmala? That doesn't sound like propaganda to me. He could have just said "Hello".

[bluestateguy]

4. It would have leaked anyway and I don't want to fuel the conspiracy theorists

Some controversies are just not worth it.

[vkkv]

5. Mateen's actual connections to ME terrorist groups do not exist according to

government agencies.

It was not cowardice of the Obama admin. to redact the things that are BS.

Seems the only people who want these redactions made public are right-wingers and Muslim haters.

You can't yell 'FIRE!' in a movie theater for a reason. Similarly, creating a kind of incitement and anti-Muslim hate is not going in the right direction. It will be a waste of time and resources. Now, if you lean Republican and WANT to incite the hatred of all Muslims - then, congrats and dream on.

[Bluenorthwest]

7. Oddly some people are also concerned about anti LGBT hate, such as the sort we saw in Orlando.

And transparency and honesty and truth are LGBT values. We don't like that which lurks in closets and edits itself for public consumption.

[vkkv]

20. But Mateens was not an affiliated Mid-East terrorist lurking in a closet. He was just a very

troubled, violent, power-tripping misogynist who also insane.

So does it REALLY HELP everyone to then CLOUD those facts with BS that he actually wanted to be a real-life terrorist? Think about it. Too many small minds are going to grasp that BS and run with it... Trump, Fox News and anti-Muslim groups specifically. It would be adding fuel to a fire.

The un-redacted version is for the incitement that the right-wing and anti-Muslim crowds want.

If "honesty and truth are LGBT values" then the un-redacted version are not what you are looking for, since it's BS, see that?

[Akicita]

33. Why is it BS? He swore fealty to ISIS. Do you think he killed all those people because he found a

fly in his cheerios that morning or something?

[840high]

38. .that^

[Darb]

42. No, Mr. Helper,

anyone can say anything they want to at any time. It doesn't mean shit. A mass killer is a mass killer is a mass killer. Almost always men, almost always feeling slighted or maligned, almost always authoritarian in nature, or just plain out of their gourd.

You know, like the Repubes that you are emulating with your "radical islamic terrorist" tripe.

Did you ever ask yourself why radical islamic terrorists kill more muslims than anyone else?

[Akicita]

44. So if a white supremacist Nazi massacred a bunch of blacks and Jews and claimed he did it to

promote white supremacy and the Nazi party, you would insist that the massacre had nothing to do with white supremacy or Nazism because people can say anything at any time? Give me a break.

I have no problem calling these terrorists radical Islamists. Not enough people spoke out against the Nazis when they were gaining power.

Why would you think it odd that radical Islamist terrorists would kill Muslims? Do you believe the Nazis never killed any Germans? ISIS is trying to gain power and set up a caliphate. They will kill any and all who oppose them or will not submit to their radical brand of Islam. Especially Shia.
Since most of the areas they control or are fighting for are predominately Muslim, it makes perfect sense that most of their victims are Muslim. BTW, the Nazis killed a lot of Germans too. Especially Jews, gypsies, and the disabled.

[snooper2]

46. why radical islamic terrorists kill more muslims than anyone else?

Well, that is easy to answer-

A- Most radical fundie assholes live in a few select countries in the Middle East, millions-
B- Most peaceful Muslims live in the middle east
C- Radical fundie assholes from Al-Qaeda to ISIS want to establish a Caliphate in the Middle East
D- Fundie assholes have millions of people in their way and the slaughter them for something as basic as being female and alone...


Pretty simple to explain unless one believes those four facts are all "Western" propaganda.

[melman]

41. It's not BS

It's the record of what actually happened.

[snooper2]

45. so he wasn't a fundie asshole that went to church multiple times a week?

Was that just a big ruse?

[mwrguy]

28. we can expect it to be used for a lot of Islamophobic demagoguery now

[ileus]

40. These are his own words...

[forthemiddle]

6. Question

When the transcript says "in the name of God, the beneficent [Arabic], and "prophet of God [Arabic], etc, does the [arabic] mean that he actually said Allah and they are transcribing it without using the name of Allah?
I am confused if they are truly releasing "unretracted"!transcripts why don't they just do That? This, in my opinion, will only add fuel to the fire.

[philosslayer]

8. Your concern is noted

[forthemiddle]

9. What does that mean?

I am asking an honest question. I am unsure what the use of brackets means.

Can you answer that?

[philosslayer]

10. It means you're trying to find something when nothing is there

If he said God or Allah, who cares? What's the difference?

[forthemiddle]

11. Ok

You would be fine with the government change a 911 transcript that said
"Praise Allah [Christian]" when the abortion clinic bomber says "Praise Jesus"

Right..........

[forthemiddle]

12. I really didn't know the meaning of the brackets

But according to you I shouldn't worry my pretty little head about it.
I will just assume the Government has my best interest at heart.

[philosslayer]

15. Are you sure you're on the right site?

I am a Democrat. And I support and trust this Democratic President and the people he has appointed to positions of authority, including the AG.

[forthemiddle]

18. I said the Government not the Democrat

You do know that We live in a Country that tends to change Party control, don't you?

[christx30]

36. I tend to not trust anyone that wants to hide something.

I don't care if it's Obama or Bush. I want to know why you want to hide things.

I open my son's door and he shoves something behind his back quickly, I want to know what it is. Since he knows it's something he needs to hide, he knows he's doing wrong.
Trust works both ways.

[MosheFeingold]

24. Glass jaw again

It's relevant because they redacted stuff and this plays (again) into the conspiracy kook line of a coverup.

The best solution would have been just release the raw tapes and let news media translate as they saw fit.

[leftynyc]

22. Nothing wrong with your question at all

The brackets tell me it was in Arabic (Allah) and was changed to English. We have some here who will do backflips and serious deflections to pretend this had absolutely nothing to do with Islam or some of their most perverted followers. My feeling about this crime was this man was gay and a Muslim and couldn't reconcile the two. That's it.

[B2G]

14. He said Allah

They changed it.

[philosslayer]

16. How do you know?

Do you have access the rest of us don't ? And even if they did, why is it relevant?

[B2G]

19. Because of the brackets in the transcript

It clearly indicated he said Allah.


Orlando Police Dispatcher (OD)
Shooter (OM)

OD: Emergency 911, this is being recorded.

OM: In the name of God the Merciful, the beneficial (in Arabic)

OD: What?

OM: Praise be to God, and prayers as well as peace be upon the prophet of God (in Arabic). I let you know, I’m in Orlando and I did the shootings.

OD: What’s your name?

OM: My name is I pledge of allegiance to (omitted).

OD: Ok, What’s your name?

OM: I pledge allegiance to (omitted) may God protect him (in Arabic), on behalf of (omitted).

OD: Alright, where are you at?

OM: In Orlando.

OD: Where in Orlando?

[End of call.]

(Shortly thereafter, the shooter engaged in three conversations with OPD’s Crisis Negotiation Team.)

2:48 a.m.: First crisis negotiation call occurred lasting approximately nine minutes.

3:03 a.m.: Second crisis negotiation call occurred lasting approximately 16 minutes.

3:24 a.m.: Third crisis negotiation call occurred lasting approximately three minutes.

In these calls, the shooter, who identified himself as an Islamic soldier, told the crisis negotiator that he was the person who pledged his allegiance to [omitted], and told the negotiator to tell America to stop bombing Syria and Iraq and that is why he was “out here right now.” When the crisis negotiator asked the shooter what he had done, the shooter stated, “No, you already know what I did.” The shooter continued, stating, “There is some vehicle outside that has some bombs, just to let you know. You people are gonna get it, and I’m gonna ignite it if they try to do anything stupid.” Later in the call with the crisis negotiator, the shooter stated that he had a vest, and further described it as the kind they “used in France.” The shooter later stated, “In the next few days, you’re going to see more of this type of action going on.” The shooter hung up and multiple attempts to get in touch with him were unsuccessful.

4:21 a.m.: OPD pulled an air conditioning unit out of a Pulse dressing room window for victims to evacuate.

(While the FBI will not be releasing transcripts of OPD communication with victims, significant information obtained from those victims allowed OPD to gain knowledge of the situation inside Pulse.)

4:29 a.m.: As victims were being rescued, they told OPD the shooter said he was going to put four vests with bombs on victims within 15 minutes.

(An immediate search of the shooter’s vehicle on scene and inside Pulse ultimately revealed no vest or improvised explosive device.)

5:02 a.m.: OPD SWAT and OCSO Hazardous Device Team began to breach wall with explosive charge and armored vehicle to make entry.

5:14 a.m.: OPD radio communication stated that shots were fired.

5:15 a.m.: OPD radio communication stated that OPD engaged the suspect and the suspect was reported down.

Based on OPD radio communications, there were no reports of shots being fired inside Pulse between the initial exchange of gunfire between responding officers and shooter, and the time of the final breach. During this time, the shooter communicated with an OPD 911 operator and an OPD crisis negotiator, and OPD radio communications reported that victims were being rescued.

The FBI urges the public to provide information about the shooter and any contact they may have had with him. Since the release of the FBI’s Seeking Information poster, the FBI has received thousands of tips. The FBI will investigate every tip. To provide a tip, please call1-800- CALL-FBI or visit tips.fbi.gov.

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[alcibiades_mystery]

34. Yes, they translated all the Arabic words to their English equivalents

Are there any other words in the transcript that you prefer be untranslated in the - ahem - translation?

[B2G]

35. It appears that's the only word that needed 'translating'

Unless you can see any other 'in arabic' references.

Do you?

[arcane1]

17. That does appear to be the case, since they add "[Arabic]" after each reference.

Basically translated 100% into English.

[840high]

39. Yes. I read on BBC that

he said Allah.

[rollin74]

13. Good. I'm glad the full transcript is being released

it was wrong to ever suggest censoring it

[Herman4747]

21. I generally agree with you...

...However, to be sure, the successful killer choosing to ally himself with ISIS may be a morale booster for that terror group.

[robbedvoter]

25. Just because the republicans are unhinged on the issue, no excuse to alter the truth

Obama called it terrorism. We already heard it was in the call. We also knew ISIS claimed responsibility for it. That doesn't take ANYTHING away from the need to control guns, from the bigotry/self hatred (very likely caused by religion). This crime had complex causes - we should be able to hold that in our minds. And yes, we first need to take care of the 🔫. It's easier fixable than all the others. it's like pouring water on the fire engulfing the house BEFORE checking the foundation for cracks

[applegrove]

27. The GOP seems unable to get with the president and fight the war on terror

when it involves the words we use (or don't). Almost like they don't want their base to feel they are participating in ending radical jihadism. Maybe terror is their go to wedge issue now that LGBT people can get married.

[Darb]

43. They WANT more attacks.

Plain and simple. So they can whine. The Orlando attack was perfect for them. A terror attack that killed gay people. A twofer.

[vdogg]

31. This was an unforced error.

There was no logical reason redacted those tapes. We can't be making mistakes like that in an election year.

[FLPanhandle]

32. It was a stupid decision to censor out what they didn't like

Obama and Dems are already being painted as unwilling to face the fact of Islamic terrorism and this played into that meme. To censor the transcript was Trump level stupid.