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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:23 PM Jun 2016

The Latest: Senate Blocks Effort to Bolster Background Check

Source: Associated Press

The Latest: Senate Blocks Effort to Bolster Background Check

By The Associated Press
WASHINGTON — Jun 20, 2016, 6:11 PM ET

The Latest on the Senate votes on gun control legislation (all times Eastern):

6 p.m.

The Senate has blocked a bill to bolster background checks as votes on gun control got underway in the Senate.
The vote Monday was 53-47 — seven short of the 60 needed for the Senate to move ahead on the Republican-led measure. The vote was largely along party lines.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley had sponsored the bill to increase money for the background check system. It would have prodded states to send more records to the FBI of felons and others barred from buying guns. The FBI operates the background check system.

Grassley's proposal also would have revamped language prohibiting some people with mental health issues from buying a gun. Democrats claimed that language would roll back current protections.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-top-gop-senator-dismisses-compromise-guns-39997483

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mehrrh

(233 posts)
1. majority no more
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:32 PM
Jun 2016

So no majority votes win anything any more.
Everything must be won by a 60+ vote?
Dems need to be sure to regain the Senate in 2016 if we ever expect any sanity in legislation.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
12. They need to force the filibuster
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jun 2016

They let them get away with a verbal indication that there will be a filibuster but they never actually force one. Well, they need to get those Senators to get up on the Senate floor and justify their votes to the world for as long as it takes to either win the filibuster or for there to be a vote for cloture.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
2. As always, the devil is in the details of the implementation.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jun 2016

Better no law than a bad law.

Why is it that no version of these articles ever wants to actually educate the population on the topic being discussed?

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. So their "compromise" and agreement to proceed was just cosmetic and a ploy.....
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jun 2016

....to get to bed the other night.

bucolic_frolic

(43,058 posts)
4. Senate GOP doesn't want to change anything
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jun 2016

this is to give their 8 or 10 vulnerable Senators this fall something
they can show to voters that they *DID* vote for gun control

I think we'd almost be better off without these efforts because
it appears it might let them off the hook

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
5. Mcconnell thinks we should continue our effort overseas -
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jun 2016

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said the Orlando shootings — in which the FBI says the American-born gunman swore allegiance to a leader of the Islamic State extremist group — show the best way to prevent attacks by extremists is to defeat such groups overseas. -

neocons are just chomping at the bit to once again use our American men and women for their lust of war....

This was one of our very own American born gunman - to hell with law abiding American citizens who collectively agree with gun control....simply NRA $$$$ - rather than you and me! - disgusting,,pathetic

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
7. Spot on....tks for the link..be well
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

We will prevail in Nov...Democratic ticket votes up and down the ticket......

forest444

(5,902 posts)
9. Your words to God's ear.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jun 2016

As long as we have a system so corrupt it allows the Chaos - and by extension, Bitchy Mitchy - to carry on without so much as an inquiry, all is lost.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
13. There were some people on DU just thrilled at the Democratic filibuster
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jun 2016

because it showed just how "progressive" our Senators are. I said then and I repeat now, this defeat was obvious and inevitable. If the Democrats fail to continue interrupting Senate business until something is accomplished, then they were a part of this Kabuki play, playing to their constituents while knowing that really nothing would change. It is time for them to show us that they really are going to legislate in our interest or we need to replace them with Democrats who will.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
15. Cornyn: 'You can't take away a Constitutional right based on a suspicion of them being a
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jun 2016

terrorist unlike taking away their right TO VOTE on a suspicion of being an alien'...

::: Texas Sen. John Cornyn, the No. 2 Republican in the Senate, said Monday that Collins' proposal is problematic because it would immediately prohibit the sale of guns to people on the government's no fly list — even those mistakenly identified as terrorism suspects. Cornyn says the appeals process in the bill comes too late.

- -But sure, remove hispanic names off voter rolls because they have the same name as someone who is undocumented...


JOHN CORNYN = typical RepubliScum.

Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
17. Orlando Massacre Wasn’t Enough To Spur Senate To Pass Gun Control Bills
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:10 PM
Jun 2016

Orlando Massacre Wasn’t Enough To Spur Senate To Pass Gun Control Bills

Potential terrorists, lone wolves and sleeper cells can still buy all the guns they want.

 06/20/2016 06:55 pm ET | Updated 2 minutes ago

WASHINGTON — Just over a week after the worst mass shooting in American history, the Senate failed Monday to advance a pair of modest and popular gun violence reform measures.

One would have barred gun sales to anyone who has been on a terrorist watch list in the previous five years or who is “reasonably” suspected of posing a terrorist threat. Another would have tightened the background check system to cover the so-called gun show loophole and all internet gun sales. About 90 percent of the public favors such steps.

But neither of the proposals could get the 60 votes needed to advance.

The background checks amendment failed, 44 to 56. Sen. Mark Kirk (Ill.) was the only Republican who supported it. Sens. Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Jon Tester (Mont.) and Joe Manchin (W.Va.) were the only Democrats who opposed it.

More:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-gun-control-bills-orlando_us_57681a1be4b015db1bca03fa

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