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w4rma

(31,700 posts)
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:57 AM Jun 2016

GOP: Senate could vote this week on 'compromise' gun bill

Source: The Hill

"I think Sen. McConnell has said if Sen. Collins wants a vote on her amendment, she'll get it," he added. "Sen. McConnell's position is if senators want to have votes on their amendments, they should be able to get it."

Collins is expected to roll out her legislation on Tuesday. Annie Clark, a spokeswoman for the Maine Republican, said earlier Monday that the forthcoming bill would be a "bipartisan compromise."

Senators are currently using the Commerce, Justice and Science appropriations bill as a vehicle for the gun control fight.

Senators said Monday that negotiations were ongoing. Collins told reporters late last week that her proposal would block the sale of guns to individuals on the "no-fly" list and the so-called "selectee" list, which requires them to undergo additional screening at airports.

It would allow individuals to appeal the decision if a gun sale is blocked, and includes a five-year "look-back" provision that would alert the FBI if someone recently removed from either list buys a gun.

"From what I understand there are some problems with the Collins proposal," Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) told reporters on Monday evening. "But we're not saying let the perfect by the enemy of the good, we'd like to see what she proposes."


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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. The "selectee" list will disqualify you from buying a gun?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 05:03 AM
Jun 2016

A lot of people who get pulled over for extra screening at airports are not even close to being terrorists.

But a lot of them tend to be darker-skinned.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
2. I hope Democrats try to amend the bill with legislation that makes the "selectee" list better. (nt)
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 05:07 AM
Jun 2016

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
9. I am a middle age white guy who has been on the "No Fly" list since at least 12/2001.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 07:16 AM
Jun 2016

When tall of this first came up late last year I took the Texas concealed handgun class. It took 5 times longer than my instructor said it would for me to get my license back after sending in my paperwork, but I have it. Still never bought a gun, but thought it may help me in airports to get cleared faster. It is such a pain for me to fly it is faster to drive anywhere 600 miles or less.

I guess I should go buy any guns I might want before they drop the hammer. I have always borrowed deer rifles for the little bit I get invited to go hunting. It's just me and my elderly mom who took the gun class a couple of years before me.

We do have an issue with homeless, teenagers, and recently home invaders walking down the giant storm ditch behind my house. I called the cops as the teenagers broke into a house accross the ditch from me while I watched mowing my yard. The home invaders hit two doors down and had walked by my backyard, but my two big dogs are quite the deterrent.

I have always cared less about guns, but know how to use them and as I get older would feel better with one. I know the statistics about how risky it is, but I think it would be better under the circumstances. I would never have one with my kids growing up, but now they are all college graduates.

The No Fly list is a joke, though now you have a chance of fighting to have your name removed or be given a pass to show you are not who they are looking for. Supposedly according to the FBI agent that was assigned to clear me faster (and never answered his phone when I needed him), a terrorist from South Yeman used my name as an alias once. I don't buy it any longer. I have a very common name and I think they put a lot of common names on the list to rope in more people. They have been using the list as probably cause for extra screening. I am sure they use it to justify electronic surveillance as well, though I have never done anything wrong. We have really become a police state. For those of you who haven't worried while the cops abuse blacks and other minorities, they will be treating you the same soon. First they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, next they came for....

For any agency employee reading this, I am not the droid you are looking for!

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
5. And, this is the SENATE
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:50 AM
Jun 2016

a glorious win in the senate would advance the bill to ...

The House.

Wonder how that will turn out?

bucolic_frolic

(43,132 posts)
7. All this does is give cover for vulnerable GOP Senators in fall elections
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 07:06 AM
Jun 2016

That's why McConnell is so agreeable

I'm not entirely sure the Democrats understand this, or they are
just going along to try to get something accomplished

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
8. Most members of congress
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 07:14 AM
Jun 2016

are there to get reelected. Don't let anyone tell you they give a damn about the constitution or their oath of office or anything like that.

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
11. Who wouldn't want a cushy...
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:05 PM
Jun 2016

...6-figure job with good perks where you show up for work 50% of the time, at best, and don't have to do a damn thing when you are there?

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
12. Yep, and when the people
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jun 2016

you work for want something, they don't just tell you or send a memo. Instead they invite you over for dinner and give you money. Then they tell you what they want.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
10. I wonder if Collins...
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jun 2016

could potentially be the savior the GOP is hoping for at the convention. As unlikely as that is, maybe there is some thought that running Collins against Clinton could be very successful. Or maybe she'll be Trump's VP. I think much of the New England States votes (even those of traditional democrats) would go to Collins. My own parents vote for her, because they say she is a moderate, reasonable person, does a lot for our little neck of the woods and so on. She is generally viewed favorably. Even I don't really dislike her all that much, though I'd rather chop off my arms than vote for her.

If she can lead the way in seeming reasonable, decent... like, the "Good Republican", if she can win some love and respect from both the right and the left, her ratings will likely increase a great deal among both republicans and democrats.

Maybe I'm drawing at straws here because I can't figure out the Republican strategy (do they even have one?) but I wonder how likely it is, or even how possible it is, that Collins could replace Trump as the nominee.

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