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brooklynite

(94,517 posts)
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:44 PM Jun 2016

Sanders: 'It doesn't appear that I'm going to be the nominee'

Source: The Hill

Bernie Sanders in an interview broadcast Wednesday went the furthest he has to date in conceding defeat to Hillary Clinton in the battle for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"It doesn't appear that I'm going to be the nominee, so I'm not going to be determining the scope of the convention," Sanders said during a taped C-SPAN interview.

Sanders said Clinton should pick "the most progressive candidate that she can find" to be her running mate. A handful of candidates, though not Sanders, are reportedly being considered.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/284462-sanders-doesnt-appear-ill-be-nominee#.V2rM-23SeI4.twitter

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Sanders: 'It doesn't appear that I'm going to be the nominee' (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2016 OP
Life is not about simple ideology Renew Deal Jun 2016 #1
I don't think it's exactly right? SouthernDemLinda Jun 2016 #79
He is a great honest and humble man determined to help our democracy. Now he will help Hill. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #2
He ran a great race and got a lot of people excited about politics who were not before. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #3
Now I hope he can lead his people into WhiteTara Jun 2016 #4
We were all in that tent already, and now we are all refocused on the big ring. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #8
Bread and Circuses WhiteTara Jun 2016 #9
Democracy if you take part. L. Coyote Jun 2016 #47
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The big tent of the Democratic party Loki Jun 2016 #27
+1 SirBrockington Jun 2016 #40
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Definitely. I think he was good for us and hope he plays a significant role in future. Hoyt Jun 2016 #34
K&R for the nice comments! Duval Jun 2016 #5
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That was more than a month ago, even before the last primary. George II Jun 2016 #11
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I don't know, but this story is about something that Sanders said today, not something... George II Jun 2016 #24
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I didn't admit that Goodman has not changed his mind, I really don't know about what he thinks... George II Jun 2016 #38
Strange cosmicone Jun 2016 #80
Goodman is a troll Renew Deal Jun 2016 #15
I'm a huge Bernie fan, but I can't take H.A. Goodman, way too strident and fanatical. StrictlyRockers Jun 2016 #35
If he had labeled himself an independent FDR Democrat bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #7
The underlying "story" is huge. This jumped out at me: George II Jun 2016 #10
Sounds like a full court press agains Bernie's idealism. eom Festivito Jun 2016 #39
Not to this Hillary supporter. calimary Jun 2016 #52
Bernie supporter, here. I think he's trying to "let us down easy" in order to prevent... Odin2005 Jun 2016 #59
Well, hey, these things take time. calimary Jun 2016 #63
"realistic" that Bernie's idealism will be cut from convention and thus from Democrats. Festivito Jun 2016 #62
Not sure I get how it was disparaging. I didn't intend it that way. calimary Jun 2016 #64
Sounds Like Snubsville SoCalMusicLover Jun 2016 #44
Sanders would have made a fine president Democat Jun 2016 #12
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The time for Democrat bashing and hoping for a Trump victory are over Democat Jun 2016 #14
Ditto Iliyah Jun 2016 #33
Thankfully SirBrockington Jun 2016 #43
I'm content and happy with Clinton, but I would have been ecstatic with Sanders as the nominee. StrictlyRockers Jun 2016 #16
Really? No kidding........ Beacool Jun 2016 #17
Snarky, unhelpful, condescending comment about a great man who many of us support. StrictlyRockers Jun 2016 #19
I lost patience with him. Beacool Jun 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #36
For what????? tonyt53 Jun 2016 #29
That stuff is not all over the place now. pangaia Jun 2016 #32
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Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath on that one. StrictlyRockers Jun 2016 #23
How about an enthusiastic endorsement Sen. Sanders The Second Stone Jun 2016 #22
How about you stick to your ideals like you have for the past 30 years, Bernie? StrictlyRockers Jun 2016 #25
Endorse who? sangfroid Jun 2016 #26
The winner, that's who. Beacool Jun 2016 #31
What winner? sangfroid Jun 2016 #37
Sigh............ Beacool Jun 2016 #41
A lot of people have been brainwashed by mainstream media into believing that presumptive nominee StrictlyRockers Jun 2016 #42
You really believe that anything is going to change at the convention? Beacool Jun 2016 #46
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Keep hoping against hope, but Hillary will be the nominee. Beacool Jun 2016 #85
Warren is doing that work, so it doesn't matter at the end of the day. MADem Jun 2016 #56
It does matter. That is why it is expected. It also seems everyone knows it The Second Stone Jun 2016 #57
The pivot is coming-this was the first creak of the hinge. nt MADem Jun 2016 #82
He cannot do that right away without risking a bunch of his supporters bolting and voting Green. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #60
they will bolt and go Green anyway if they aren't truly his supporters The Second Stone Jun 2016 #61
KnR. Thank you for that, Sen Sanders Hekate Jun 2016 #45
(blank) Rafale Jun 2016 #48
He's getting there bluestateguy Jun 2016 #50
Come on Bernie.... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #51
Bernie will forever be my hero retrowire Jun 2016 #53
Im sure HR Clinton MFM008 Jun 2016 #54
Now, we move forward. nt MADem Jun 2016 #55
According to one report, Sanders wants a convention speech even if does not concede Gothmog Jun 2016 #58
Of course not BainsBane Jun 2016 #65
Sanders said he expects to speak at the convention next month and "will do everythin riversedge Jun 2016 #67
No. Cha Jun 2016 #76
K&R Jamaal510 Jun 2016 #66
Sounds like a respectful concession to me BlackLivesMatter Jun 2016 #68
I think Hillary should pick whoever she wants for her V.P. Walk away Jun 2016 #69
And, she will.. She WON... just like President Obama did. She doesn't need any input Cha Jun 2016 #70
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What is that supposed to mean? BainsBane Jun 2016 #74
So? this is the GE.. Cha Jun 2016 #75
Brilliant! MoonRiver Jun 2016 #72
It doesn't appear that I'm gonna be Cindy Crawford's sex-slave Night Watchman Jun 2016 #73
Well, California is still counting; take heart! (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #77
... brer cat Jun 2016 #83
OMG. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #87
LOL. murielm99 Jun 2016 #89
Progressives had a once in a lifetime chance. chapdrum Jun 2016 #81
K&R DesertRat Jun 2016 #84
lol SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #86
I love Bernie and voted for him in the primary. OrwellwasRight Jun 2016 #88

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
1. Life is not about simple ideology
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jun 2016

Nominees should pick the most progressive person that can lead the country and bring something to the table

 

SouthernDemLinda

(182 posts)
79. I don't think it's exactly right?
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jun 2016

Yes, he said it didn't appear that he would be the nominee and then.......


He has yet to also explicitly suspend his presidential bid, saying he'll push to leave a mark on the Democratic platform at the party's national convention in July.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
3. He ran a great race and got a lot of people excited about politics who were not before.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jun 2016

I congratulate him for going much further than anyone expected him to go.

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
4. Now I hope he can lead his people into
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jun 2016

the tent. He has done a great deal to broaden it, so now is the time to fill it.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
8. We were all in that tent already, and now we are all refocused on the big ring.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jun 2016

And the show is about to begin. Cue the music and dump the cueball with a weave.

Response to WhiteTara (Reply #4)

Loki

(3,825 posts)
27. The big tent of the Democratic party
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jun 2016

can certainly welcome those who believe in a representative Democracy and yes, that does include Republican's who have some degree of honor left. I imagine there are quite a few of them, and I will welcome them just as I will welcome those who supported Mr. Sander's. That's what being a big tent is all about, isn't it?

SirBrockington

(259 posts)
40. +1
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jun 2016

Ideally a President is is the leader of the entire country, not just those who supported him/her. There are those on the far right, with many similarities of those on the far left, w/regards to character, that are equally passionate, but have a dissimilar political ideology. They can't simply be written off as unimportant either. I think if Democrats put more of that 50 state strategy into place, and appealed to the working class of BOTH parties, then there would be greater consciousness of the disparities between the 1% and the poor. There is no
reason a poor white person in the Mississippi Delta should be voting Republican.

Response to WhiteTara (Reply #4)

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Response to George II (Reply #11)

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. I don't know, but this story is about something that Sanders said today, not something...
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jun 2016

...that Goodman said weeks ago.

In response to Sanders acknowledging that he will not the the nominee (the subject of the OP), you responded with something Goodman said even before the last primaries (including California and New Jersey) and characterized it as "goodman is still dreaming".

With that I suppose you can probably answer your own question about whether or not Goodman has changed his mind.

Response to George II (Reply #24)

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. I didn't admit that Goodman has not changed his mind, I really don't know about what he thinks...
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jun 2016

...today. This is June 22, not May 11 when Goodman said what you referenced.

By the way, what does and fictional idea that "the FBI will indict Clinton" have anything to do with this. For one thing, there will be no DOJ indictment of Clinton, and it's been pointed out time and again here on DU that the FBI doesn't indict people, they perform investigations. The "I" in FBI stands for "Investigation", not "Indictment".

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
35. I'm a huge Bernie fan, but I can't take H.A. Goodman, way too strident and fanatical.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jun 2016

He's like a parody, he's so over the top anti-Hillary.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
7. If he had labeled himself an independent FDR Democrat
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jun 2016

from the outset of his career in Congress

He might be closer to being chosen as VP

Bernie has been spectacular to watch over these last 20 years

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. The underlying "story" is huge. This jumped out at me:
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jun 2016

"I'm not going to be determining the scope of the convention"

calimary

(81,222 posts)
52. Not to this Hillary supporter.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:08 PM
Jun 2016

It sounded like Bernie was being realistic.

It sounded like he's actually taking some steps toward reconciliation, and helping his followers to assist with the biggest and most important job of all - making sure NO republi-CON takes the White House - whether it's Donald Trump or whoever the GOP refuseniks try to install as their nominee instead. It's realistic and wise. Perhaps he's just needed time to start coming to terms with things.

Whether some folks realize it or not, with the reality as it currently is, the best way to get Bernie's views flowing into real policy is to make sure the Democratic designated hitter, in this case HRC, is elected President.

Anybody think a President Trump would take any interest in that?

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
59. Bernie supporter, here. I think he's trying to "let us down easy" in order to prevent...
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jun 2016

...a large mass of his supporters from bolting in rage and voting Green.

calimary

(81,222 posts)
63. Well, hey, these things take time.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jun 2016

Nobody I know of has an "on/off switch", except for the "Star Trek: The Next Generation" android, Data.

I appreciate seeing this from Senator Sanders. Full disclosure - I've been hoping he'd start moving in that direction. He may be working through letting himself down, easy, too. After all, most of us deal with reversals in private. But it's gotta be murder to face this stuff when it's all over the front pages and leading every hour in round-the-clock cable news.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
62. "realistic" that Bernie's idealism will be cut from convention and thus from Democrats.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:39 PM
Jun 2016

And the comment disparaging Bernie as though he needs time to come to his opponents view should be edited to not be disparaging or deleted altogether.

It is unlikely that Bernie will become the Democratic candidate, but it is not impossible. Comments like that would only serve to hurt Democrats.

calimary

(81,222 posts)
64. Not sure I get how it was disparaging. I didn't intend it that way.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:45 PM
Jun 2016

I have a good friend who is STILL getting over a loss - 22 years later.

Hell, I'm certainly no angel. I'M still trying to get over Selection 2000 and not managing that anywhere nearly successfully. And it wasn't even MY own personal loss.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
44. Sounds Like Snubsville
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jun 2016

Basically he's saying, "you know all those ideas and solutions I spoke of during my campaign, well they are now essentially fantasies, that won't be part of the Democratic party agenda at the convention.

You can hear the excitement in his tone, that's for sure.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
12. Sanders would have made a fine president
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jun 2016

As will Clinton.

Hope to see them working together soon to beat Trump.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Democat

(11,617 posts)
14. The time for Democrat bashing and hoping for a Trump victory are over
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jun 2016

DU is now in the pro-Democrat stage.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
16. I'm content and happy with Clinton, but I would have been ecstatic with Sanders as the nominee.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary is great. Bernie is freaking awesome!!!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
17. Really? No kidding........
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jun 2016

How about if instead of still tilting at windmills he joins the fight against Trump? He could show some real leadership and follow Warren's example. She has targeted Trump with laser like precision.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
19. Snarky, unhelpful, condescending comment about a great man who many of us support.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jun 2016

Your comment is unhelpful and divisive. Reported.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
28. I lost patience with him.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary lost by only 102 pledged delegates in 2008. She and Obama were statistically equal in the popular vote, they each had 48%. Yet, 4 days after the last primary she gave a concession speech and immediately went to work with Obama to defeat the Republicans. Sanders still talks about taking it all the way to the convention and makes vague references about Trump. How about a little more action and a little less talk? He should be rallying his supporters to go out and help Democrats in their fight against Trump and the Republicans. What the heck is he waiting for???

Response to Beacool (Reply #28)

Response to Beacool (Reply #17)

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
23. Yeah, I'm not going to hold my breath on that one.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:45 PM
Jun 2016

Some people think this is a place to act passively aggressive. They come here to get their jollies by acting subtly troll-like to get a rise out of people they disagree with. I'm done with this thread. Don't feed the trolls.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
22. How about an enthusiastic endorsement Sen. Sanders
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

I think you'd be surprised at how much that helps your cause.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
25. How about you stick to your ideals like you have for the past 30 years, Bernie?
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jun 2016

Please don't ever act enthusiastic about anything if you don't truly feel that way. This is why so many people support you, because of your genuineness and authenticity. We know who is telling the truth and who is acting. Keep going Bernie! Don't change!

 

sangfroid

(212 posts)
26. Endorse who?
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jun 2016

I used to visit DU and read all about how Bernie's ideas were commie crap, pipedreams that would cost too much, anti-women, anti-POC and pro-gun. Now we're told all he has to do is endorse someone and suddenly (maybe) his ideas will be supported.

I don't think that's how Bernie works.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
42. A lot of people have been brainwashed by mainstream media into believing that presumptive nominee
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jun 2016

means the same thing as nominee. It only means the same thing if you want it to.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
46. You really believe that anything is going to change at the convention?
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jun 2016

The presumptive nominee IS the nominee. The super delegates have never gone against the will of the people and Hillary has won by a country mile, it's not even remotely close.

As for being brain washed, my undergrad major was Political Science.

Response to Beacool (Reply #46)

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
85. Keep hoping against hope, but Hillary will be the nominee.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jun 2016

We are in general election mode and have already moved on. These arguments about the nomination are moot.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
56. Warren is doing that work, so it doesn't matter at the end of the day.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:42 PM
Jun 2016

She's doing a really great job, too.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
57. It does matter. That is why it is expected. It also seems everyone knows it
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jun 2016

and that is why it is being discussed.

The things politicians say often have almost as much meaning as what they do, and sometimes what they say is a political act.

There is only one thing for a loyal democratic party member to do: endorse the nominee. Failure to endorse the nominee speaks volumes. And those volumes say different things to different people. Unity does require an endorsement of Clinton from Sanders. His withholding it so long weakens Clinton some, it weakens Sanders some, and it offers comfort to Republicans.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
61. they will bolt and go Green anyway if they aren't truly his supporters
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jun 2016

that is pretty weak sauce. He can say who he is going to vote for and endorse in the GE just like any other free American. People who vote Green for President are just Naderites in another epoch. They have to vote their consciences just like everyone else. If they think that voting for Jill Stein (she's the Green nominee, right?) is more important than voting for the person who will be able to stop Trump, then that is what they have got to do. Foolish in my opinion, but I harbor no illusions about the Greens.

Hillary Clinton has a legislative liberal record within two percentage points of Sanders and Warren. She is a real liberal and has been her whole life. She will appoint liberals to courts and executive branch positions. She is far better than any Republican who ran from our point of view.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
53. Bernie will forever be my hero
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jun 2016

As Eugene Debs was to him, Bernie is to me.

I've learned so much thanks to you Bernie. You've instilled a type of strength in me I never knew I'd be capable of.

Thank you Bernie. Thank you, thank you.

Gothmog

(145,168 posts)
58. According to one report, Sanders wants a convention speech even if does not concede
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jun 2016

Sanders wants to speak at the national convention http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-democratic-nomination_us_576acfb9e4b065534f4889f5?section=

After he met with Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton in Washington last month, Sanders said there was no agreement that he needed to endorse her in order to get a speaking slot at the convention.

“I’ve given a few speeches in my life. It would be nice to speak at the Democratic National Convention,” he said. “If they for whatever reason don’t want me to speak, you know, so what?” Sanders added that he expected to speak at the convention.

I doubt that Sanders will get to speak to the convention if he does not concede

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
67. Sanders said he expects to speak at the convention next month and "will do everythin
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 06:13 PM
Jun 2016

I have not heard anything one way or another.



from the OP......
He has yet to also explicitly suspend his presidential bid, saying he'll push to leave a mark on the Democratic platform at the party's national convention in July.

Top Democrats, including President Obama and Vice President Biden, endorsed Clinton as their presumptive presidential nominee June 9 after her wins in the California and New Jersey primaries.

Sanders said he expects to speak at the convention next month and "will do everything that I can" to defeat presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump in November.

He praised Clinton's intelligence but said, "There are areas where we have strong disagreements."

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
69. I think Hillary should pick whoever she wants for her V.P.
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jun 2016

I'm sure that is what Sanders would have done if he had won the nomination.

Cha

(297,184 posts)
70. And, she will.. She WON... just like President Obama did. She doesn't need any input
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jun 2016

from ANYONE.. if you get my drift.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
74. What is that supposed to mean?
Wed Jun 22, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jun 2016

She knows everyone didn't vote for her. She can read election results. The voters she needs to listen to also include the 15.8 million who voted for her in the primary as well as the tens of millions who didn't vote in the primaries at all. One thing Clinton does very well is listen to voters. In fact, she makes it a priority, which is why she began her primary campaign by touring the country and meeting with smallish groups of voters, away from the cameras. She is running to be president of the USA, not just a subset of the Democratic primary electorate.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
88. I love Bernie and voted for him in the primary.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jun 2016

But would someone please tell some of his FB followers that even he doesn't believe he will be the nominee? Some on Facebook seem to live in the non-reality-based community in which Bernie wins at the convention and are calling anyone who says "that's not likely to happen" a "sellout." I've met some sellouts in my day, and in my humble opinion, I am not one of them.

It's time to boot and rally against crazy ass Trump.




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