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bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 07:09 AM Jun 2016

Republican delegate sues to avoid voting for Donald Trump at convention

Source: The Guardian

One of Virginia’s delegates to the Republican National Convention has filed a federal lawsuit in an effort to avoid voting for presumptive nominee Donald Trump at the party convention next month.

The delegate, Carroll Correll Jr of Winchester, Virginia, argued in the suit that being forced to vote against his conscience was a violation of his constitutional rights.

Correll said he would not vote for Trump because he believed the billionaire businessman was unfit to serve as president.

Correll’s suit maintained that state law imposed criminal penalties on delegates who did not vote on the first ballot for the winner of the state’s Republican and Democratic primaries.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/25/donald-trump-virginia-republican-delegate-sues-to-avoid-voting-convention



It is only fitting Republicans are consistent here. They are all for matters
of conscience - bathroom use, birth control under health plans, Speaker Ryan's
advice to Congress - in daily legal life, let's see how they handle
conscience at the RNC!

And while we're at it, just out of curiosity, where is the matter of conscience
when it comes to gun control legislation? Oh, conscience is channeled into
prayers for the dead and their families. Right. But very very wrong.
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Republican delegate sues to avoid voting for Donald Trump at convention (Original Post) bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 OP
I think Ryan is in cahoots Mary Mac Jun 2016 #1
Bingo. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #4
The Guardian reporting, again. ReRe Jun 2016 #2
Is he also suing the person(s) that forced him to become a delegate? nt. Thor_MN Jun 2016 #3
Exactly. You wanted to be a delegate, you knew what came with it. Shut up & vote. 7962 Jun 2016 #6
Yeah Cosmocat Jun 2016 #15
So no one should challenge anything in the courts? former9thward Jun 2016 #20
What does the "state" have to do with it? Cosmocat Jun 2016 #22
Did you even read the OP? former9thward Jun 2016 #23
CNN also had the story so at least ONE US MEdia company did titaniumsalute Jun 2016 #5
guess the vote for trump was in the fine print for delegate status... cause who reads that shit dembotoz Jun 2016 #7
Who?? Srkdqltr Jun 2016 #8
Romney still COULD throw his hat in. christx30 Jun 2016 #9
The GOP elite are desperate to get rid of Trump. keithbvadu2 Jun 2016 #10
Establishment GOP is like a shell structure at this point bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #12
Fundamentalist/Evangelicals hold values of Political Christians rather than keithbvadu2 Jun 2016 #13
And that dichotomy needs fleshing out bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #14
Donald Trump IS the Republican conscience. sofa king Jun 2016 #11
Yep Cosmocat Jun 2016 #16
All he has to do is not show up for the vote. nt Xipe Totec Jun 2016 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #18
Well thank you for joining the DU today to let us know your deepest most inner thoughts. cstanleytech Jun 2016 #19
Pretty sure being a delegate to a private party convention NYC Liberal Jun 2016 #21

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
2. The Guardian reporting, again.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 07:25 AM
Jun 2016

You can find out all kinds of things if you read The Guardian of London, England on a daily basis. And I thank you, b_c, for bringing us this little tid-bit.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
6. Exactly. You wanted to be a delegate, you knew what came with it. Shut up & vote.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:24 AM
Jun 2016

"I want to be a delegate but I only want to cast my vote for someone I like"
Too bad, skippy, the voters say goofy gets the vote!

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
15. Yeah
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:35 PM
Jun 2016

I won't definitively say what the courts will determine, but this is like the jackass register who did not want to sign off on gay marriage. You chose to take the job, that was part of it.

Fucking republicans and their holier than thou ownership of the constitution, they just want to make shit up as they go along.

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
20. So no one should challenge anything in the courts?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jun 2016

Because they knew what it was before and so just shut up and do your job! The law is unconstitutional. States have no right to determine how someone votes in a private organization.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
22. What does the "state" have to do with it?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jun 2016

This person accepted the position knowing the requirements of the organization, and took a pledge to uphold those requirments.

former9thward

(31,936 posts)
23. Did you even read the OP?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jun 2016

I guess not. The delegate is suing because of the STATE law which requires delegates to vote how their state voted. They want the state law invalidated.

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
7. guess the vote for trump was in the fine print for delegate status... cause who reads that shit
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:45 AM
Jun 2016

he wanted to go to the convention cause of the free booze and eats

Srkdqltr

(6,228 posts)
8. Who??
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:15 AM
Jun 2016

If delegates don't vote for Trump who can they vote for? Is there anyone set up to run? Trump ran off all the others.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
9. Romney still COULD throw his hat in.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:47 AM
Jun 2016

That remains to be seen. I doubt he'd have a chance right now. Republican voters want trump. If the RNC tried some backdoor shannigans to get Romney or someone else in at the last minute, it would be a huge deal.
Picture Clinton being forced out at the convention in favor of (just throwing it out there) Walter Mondale. The convention would be livid ("MONDALE!? Are you *~%}# kidding me?!&quot . And there are probably only 6 people nationwide that would support Mondale. And all are probably related to him.

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
10. The GOP elite are desperate to get rid of Trump.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

The GOP elite are desperate to get rid of Trump.

They are finagling how to subvert the will of the repub/cons base and rig the convention against him.

Trump has earned his delegates.

If the GOP establishment is so willing to ignore/bypass the beliefs of their own base, what is to prevent them from doing the same to our country?

The GOP elite in their high and mighty political/corporate towers feel they know better than their own people what our country needs.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
12. Establishment GOP is like a shell structure at this point
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:34 PM
Jun 2016

The Trump Tea Party GOP has abandoned GOP traditional values.

Fundamentalist/Evangelicals hold values inconsistent with Trump
and some of the Tea Party. That's the bargain you make with
political radicals. They are focused on a narrow set of issues, and
those issues are fringe.

It's a movement of money, corporate money, powerful interests, to
the worship of money and profit. Nothing else really matters to them.

Everyone likes money, but there are other things too. Family, religion,
quality of life, 1950s GOP kinds of things.

Allowing Trump to hijack the GOP Shell and gain office to push aside
American mainstream values would be as sad as Brexit. Or worse.
After 4 years, not much would be left of America. We'd be sold for
profit to the Deals Donald assembles. Trump hotels and golf courses
in National Parks is what I'm thinking.

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
13. Fundamentalist/Evangelicals hold values of Political Christians rather than
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jun 2016

Christians of faith when they support Trump.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
14. And that dichotomy needs fleshing out
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 01:26 PM
Jun 2016

for the public to understand it, and a catchy name to quickly identify them

Secular Christians ... Christians in name only ... Wall Street Christians ...
Weekend Evangelicals Weekday Atheists ... WEWAs

You can do better surely, you're more familiar with the ideology than me

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
11. Donald Trump IS the Republican conscience.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jun 2016

He's just not the Republican consciousness. He's the Republican id.

Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

cstanleytech

(26,231 posts)
19. Well thank you for joining the DU today to let us know your deepest most inner thoughts.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jun 2016

May your time here be memorial for you for however long that you are with us.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
21. Pretty sure being a delegate to a private party convention
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 05:20 PM
Jun 2016

is not a constitutional right. And I'm pretty sure nobody is forcing him; he can always resign.

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