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DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:17 PM Jun 2016

Obama Pushed to Pardon Snowden Before Leaving Office

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Source: CommonDreams

"These people have been thinking about the law for so long that they have forgotten that the system is actually about justice," Snowden said. "They want to throw somebody in prison for the rest of his life for what even people around the White House now are recognizing our country needed to talk about."

Indeed, only last month former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder admitted that Snowden "actually performed a public service by raising the debate that we engaged in."

In response, Snowden tweeted:

2013: It's treason!
2014: Maybe not, but it was reckless
2015: Still, technically it was unlawful
2016: It was a public service but
2017:

— Edward Snowden (@Snowden) May 30, 2016

Read more: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/27/obama-pushed-pardon-snowden-leaving-office

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Obama Pushed to Pardon Snowden Before Leaving Office (Original Post) DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 OP
*AFTER* President Obama pardons GOVERNOR DON SIEGELMAN no_hypocrisy Jun 2016 #1
ABSOLUTELY! Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #3
And Blagojevich DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #2
If he stayed and been tried ,,, Cryptoad Jun 2016 #5
Pure baloney . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #14
Exactly, Crpto. NOT GONNA HAPPEN with him hunkered down in Putinland. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #15
Pushed ... by Snowden's LAWYER .... MADem Jun 2016 #6
Hope somebody has sent him a care package with a Rosetta Stone Russian course in it. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #16
Will never happen Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #7
It would also require a strain of bold leadership that Obama hasn't got in him. Gene Debs Jun 2016 #10
The excerpt / OP has no News. Seems opinion / analysis. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #8
I don't understand how he could be pardoned, he hasn't faced trial yet. This is as ludicrous... George II Jun 2016 #9
He could do a pre-emptive pardon Geronimoe Jun 2016 #11
No chance of that happening, imo Oneironaut Jun 2016 #12
Chelsea Manning should also . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #13
Common Dreams alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #17
fake article from a fake news site about a fake hero uhnope Jun 2016 #18
The decision will be made by a higher pay grade. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #19

no_hypocrisy

(54,808 posts)
1. *AFTER* President Obama pardons GOVERNOR DON SIEGELMAN
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jun 2016

Chasstev365

(7,638 posts)
3. ABSOLUTELY!
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jun 2016
 

DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
4. And Blagojevich
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jun 2016

Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich has ordered all state agencies to stop doing business with Bank of America to pressure the company to help workers who are staging a sit-in at a shuttered Chicago plant.

The move is leverage to convince the North Carolina-based bank to use some of its federal bailout money to resolve the situation at Republic Windows and Doors.

The company closed last week with just a few days' notice.

Blagojevich says banks got bailout money and should provide lines of credit to businesses that need it so workers can keep working.

The announcement came after Blagojevich met with the workers on Monday

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/illinois-workers-continue-sit-in-protest/

On Wednesday, a rally was held in downtown Chicago in front the Bank of America (BOA) building to support workers occupying Republic Windows and Doors. The workers have occupied the factory since Friday. Republic told the workers only three days earlier that the plant was shutting down, citing BOA's withdrawal of the company's credit line.

Workers are demanding that they be given severance and vacation pay, in accordance with the federal WARN Act, which stipulates notification of layoffs due to plant closure must be provided 60 days in advance or else workers must be given severance pay to make up the difference.

The United Electrical Workers (UE), which is involved in negotiations with Republic and Bank of America, has maintained strict silence over the negotiations. On Tuesday, BOA revealed it had made an offer to extend loans to Republic so that it could meet payroll. The UE, however, has not confirmed this. Clearly, offers and counteroffers are being made, but negotiators have not shared any information with either Republic workers or their supporters. Union representatives say that any deal must be approved by the occupying workers.

Over 1,000 people showed up for the rally, among which were several dozen Republic workers. Other Chicago workers and youth came of their own accord to show solidarity with the occupation. The size of the rally grew steadily until the Chicago Police Department created a cordon to prevent it from extending into the street. A picket eventually spread completely around the skyscraper.


https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/12/chic-d11.html


Response to DemMomma4Sanders (Original post)

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
5. If he stayed and been tried ,,,
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jun 2016

i could see it,,,, but not while he has not faced the music and still hiding in Russia!

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
14. Pure baloney . .
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jun 2016

where is your outrage at Libby, Armitage, Clapper, Petraeus, etc.?

Oh right, those cases are different because, unlike Snowden,
those dudes are "connected."

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
15. Exactly, Crpto. NOT GONNA HAPPEN with him hunkered down in Putinland.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jun 2016

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Pushed ... by Snowden's LAWYER ....
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:40 PM
Jun 2016

I doubt very strongly that Obama will pardon Snowden. I could be wrong, but that's my view.

I think he'd better get used to being a Friend of Putin for the foreseeable future--he should work on his language skills so he can communicate fluently in his adopted land's tongue.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
16. Hope somebody has sent him a care package with a Rosetta Stone Russian course in it.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 02:05 PM
Jun 2016
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
7. Will never happen
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jun 2016

Obama has a pretty consistent record on whistle blowers: Crucify them!

 

Gene Debs

(582 posts)
10. It would also require a strain of bold leadership that Obama hasn't got in him.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jun 2016

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
8. The excerpt / OP has no News. Seems opinion / analysis. . . nt
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 01:21 PM
Jun 2016

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. I don't understand how he could be pardoned, he hasn't faced trial yet. This is as ludicrous...
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

....as Ford pardoning Nixon before facing prosecution.

I really hope Obama doesn't do it - it would set a bad precedent.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
11. He could do a pre-emptive pardon
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 01:34 PM
Jun 2016

as he did for Bush and Cheney.

Oneironaut

(6,284 posts)
12. No chance of that happening, imo
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jun 2016

Obama thinks Snowden is a traitor. Why would he pardon him? Even if he didn't, he still wouldn't do it.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
13. Chelsea Manning should also . .
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jun 2016

be pardoned.

Folks need to understand that, unlike Libby & Armitage, etc., she
only released Confidential info - which is like a foot fault in the
Intel Biz.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
17. Common Dreams
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jun 2016
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
18. fake article from a fake news site about a fake hero
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jun 2016
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
19. The decision will be made by a higher pay grade.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jun 2016
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