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UrbScotty

(23,980 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:55 PM Jun 2016

Former Colts running back Zurlon Tipton dies in accidental shooting at Michigan car dealership

Source: CBS 4

A former Indianapolis Colts running back died Tuesday after a gun in his car was accidentally discharged.

Tipton pulled into the service bay at a Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealership in Roseville, Michigan around 9:30 a.m., according to WJBK.

He went to take a duffel bag out of the trunk of his vehicle, and one of the two guns inside the bag reportedly went off. He was struck in the stomach. Tipton was taken to the hospital in good condition, but later died. He was 26 years old.

Read more: http://cbs4indy.com/2016/06/28/former-colts-running-back-zurlon-tipton-dies-in-accidental-shooting-at-michigan-car-dealership/

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Former Colts running back Zurlon Tipton dies in accidental shooting at Michigan car dealership (Original Post) UrbScotty Jun 2016 OP
Impossible. Iggo Jun 2016 #1
Why this could just as easily have happened with a bag full of ninja shooting stars or piano wire! villager Jun 2016 #3
or knives, or ropes, or a car secondwind Jun 2016 #14
or a swimming pool! KG Jun 2016 #21
Former? He was only 26. Didn't he play long? yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #6
Running backs usually don't last long. haele Jun 2016 #8
2 years, 38 yards rushing wolfie001 Jun 2016 #47
+1 Happyhippychick Jun 2016 #11
Fucking semi-auto most likely. I'm a revolver person just because of the Purveyor Jun 2016 #2
Something could still catch the hammer scscholar Jun 2016 #9
Both my rev's are the hammerless type, double action. eom Purveyor Jun 2016 #19
Don't keep it chambered metroins Jun 2016 #27
Excellent points, metroins PJMcK Jun 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #4
Being careless with dangerous equipment can have deadly consequences. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #42
gun humpers are not known for their intellect Skittles Jun 2016 #44
So are any DU members ammosexuals? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #52
Who is and am I one? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #56
So who are the DU members that are Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #57
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #58
So all you have is personal insults, typical Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #59
Thankfully Only The Gun Owner Died SoCalMusicLover Jun 2016 #5
Yeah, but that's not always the case. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #31
CARS MUST BE BANNED!! SoCalMusicLover Jun 2016 #7
Without tongue-in-cheek: locks Jun 2016 #10
Didn't read the post, did you? He was in for a service, shot himself accidentally. Shrike47 Jun 2016 #12
At least cars are registered, sales are recorded, and competency tests are required to operate Midnight Writer Jun 2016 #46
Not required to register a car to OWN one Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #54
Or, we need mandatory ownership laws ... Tortmaster Jul 2016 #51
Another one calls for confiscation Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #55
If you can't distinguish between ... Tortmaster Jul 2016 #61
Too bad a good guy with a gun in his duffle bag Happyhippychick Jun 2016 #13
See, if he had a gun, then this shooting would never have happened IronLionZion Jun 2016 #15
RIP bigwillq Jun 2016 #16
yeah, "THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS!" Human101948 Jun 2016 #33
Part of being a responsible gun owner rocktivity Jun 2016 #17
outlaw duffel bags onethatcares Jun 2016 #18
Condolences to his loved ones. maxsolomon Jun 2016 #20
Former Indianapolis Colt arrested after gun incident at girlfriend’s house AntiBank Jun 2016 #22
so, this guy was a freaking idiot, apparently. niyad Jun 2016 #25
Yep, this was karma nt passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #34
After her shot into his girlfriends house, they still didn't take his guns away. LisaL Jun 2016 #36
The supreme court is working on that passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #37
especially against a gun humper Skittles Jun 2016 #45
Oh, we have gun control TeddyR Jun 2016 #38
So his idea of defending his girlfriend was to shoot into her house? LisaL Jun 2016 #35
A loaded gun solves all of one's problems... nt vkkv Jun 2016 #23
YARGO N/T Throckmorton Jun 2016 #24
Another dumb gun owner-but hey-it's his right! jalan48 Jun 2016 #26
more guns, more gun deaths. MariaThinks Jun 2016 #28
Another life lost ... senselessly etherealtruth Jun 2016 #29
I'm so fucking sick of accidental shootings passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #30
In this case, it really was accidental. ManiacJoe Jun 2016 #43
Anyone stupid enough to carry around a loaded gun SheilaT Jun 2016 #39
No, not "accidentally" skepticscott Jun 2016 #40
'accident' is valid in both its use and the context. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #48
It was not an "accident" that the gun was loaded skepticscott Jun 2016 #49
Firearms not cased properly, not even in holsters. oneshooter Jul 2016 #60
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
3. Why this could just as easily have happened with a bag full of ninja shooting stars or piano wire!
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

nt

haele

(12,652 posts)
8. Running backs usually don't last long.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jun 2016

Especially if they were running backs in college and did a full 4 years. Wear and Tear at that position is brutal, and the average NFL "lifespan" is usually only 3 - 6 years before running backs shift to an easier position or just cash out. Most retire before 30.

(Dad was a running-back as a sophomore in high-school, finished out the last two years as a tackle when he started filling out. He used to say it hurt more to be a running back than a tackle; you were constantly moving.)

Haele

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
2. Fucking semi-auto most likely. I'm a revolver person just because of the
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jun 2016

accidents that are so prevalent with semi pistols.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
9. Something could still catch the hammer
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jun 2016

Cops used to have a lot of accidents with guns just going off back when they carried revolvers.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
27. Don't keep it chambered
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jun 2016

And he wouldn't have this problem. Revolvers are pretty safe, I just don't like them personally.

Poor gun safety.

The odds of actually needing your gun to protect you are much much lower than the odds of having an accident. If the extra second to cock a semi auto costs you your life, you were probably done anyway.

I'm super pro gun but much more safety conscious.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
32. Excellent points, metroins
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jun 2016

I'm super not a gun guy but I respect the way the 2nd Amendment and various laws have been interpreted. It is what it is, whether I approve or not.

Regardless, you wrote, "Poor gun safety." Doesn't it seem to happen far too often that it's negligence that results in too many gun deaths? I heard a story this morning (or yesterday or last week, etc.) where a 6 year old shot his younger brother with their mother's gun that wasn't secured. As you said, poor gun safety.

The gun owners I know, with one notable (asshole) exception, are responsible and respectful of the awesome power these weapons have. If only more American gun owners were aligned with my anecdotal experience.

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Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
59. So all you have is personal insults, typical
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:46 AM
Jul 2016

Make a broad brush attack on DU members and fail to back it up. I am happy I have nobody on ignore. Civil discussion is best and hard to do if to have to censor people.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
5. Thankfully Only The Gun Owner Died
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:00 PM
Jun 2016

It's pure luck that the bullet did not go into and kill some innocent bystander.

Guns....when they're not keeping you safe, they're sometimes killing you.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
31. Yeah, but that's not always the case.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jun 2016
80-year-old woman killed in Clackamas apartment complex shooting

Police say 80-year-old Donna Doris McQueen was accidentally shot and killed Friday night. The Clackamas County Sheriff's Office released McQueen's name after an autopsy.

The Milwaukie woman died from a single gunshot wound.

Noelle St. John, 21, was arrested in connection with the shooting. A Sheriff's release said St. John fired a gun at the Clackamas County Trails Apartment complex, 10425 S.E. Cook Street near Milwaukie, and hit McQueen. However, officers say McQueen was not the intended target of the shot.


http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2016/06/80-year-old_woman_killed_in_cl.html
 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
7. CARS MUST BE BANNED!!
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:02 PM
Jun 2016

Clearly it's the fact he was at a car dealership, which resulted in his death. Like swimming pools, cars are dangerous, and should be confiscated as they cause so many needless deaths.

Had he not been going to buy a car, he would still be alive.

locks

(2,012 posts)
10. Without tongue-in-cheek:
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jun 2016

Cars and swimming pools should be improved for safety. One LITTLE difference: they are rarely invented, designed, manufactured or used with the purpose of killing human beings.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
12. Didn't read the post, did you? He was in for a service, shot himself accidentally.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jun 2016

If he hadn't had a loaded weapon in a duffle in his trunk, he wouldn't be dead.

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
46. At least cars are registered, sales are recorded, and competency tests are required to operate
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jun 2016

And by the way, there is nearly zero support for confiscating guns, from either side of the aisle.

The argument is over sales, background checks and registration. Even the scary "assault weapons ban" is about future sales, and there is NO proposal in Congress to confiscate existing guns. NONE.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
54. Not required to register a car to OWN one
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:16 AM
Jul 2016

Sales are not recorded. I have purchased many cars from private sellers and it was cash and hand over title. If I do not use it on public roads registration is not required.

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
51. Or, we need mandatory ownership laws ...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:14 AM
Jul 2016

... for mechanics at car dealerships. A responsible mechanic gun owner present would have been able to draw a bead on that duffel bag and shoot it out of this poor man's hands.

Time to go all Australia on guns.

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
61. If you can't distinguish between ...
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:58 AM
Jul 2016

... an anonymous poster on the internet and a candidate for elected office, you probably shouldn't own a gun.

But, yes, I'm a gun-grabber, and there are lots of us out there and more joining our ranks every bloody day.

IronLionZion

(45,438 posts)
15. See, if he had a gun, then this shooting would never have happened
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jun 2016

He could have shot the duffle bag in defense.

also people like this should have never been allowed into our country. Anyone who is born or raised or lives in the country where he is from should be deported immediately until we figure this out and feel safe again.



 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
22. Former Indianapolis Colt arrested after gun incident at girlfriend’s house
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:36 PM
Jun 2016
http://cbs4indy.com/2015/12/25/former-indianapolis-colt-arrested-after-gun-incident-at-girlfriends-house/

GREENWOOD, Ind. ( December 25, 2015) — Former Indianapolis Colt Zurlon Z. Tipton was arrested early Friday morning and charged with criminal recklessness with a deadly weapon after he reportedly went to his girlfriend’s home and shot a round from a Colt AR-15 assault rifle into the house.

Greenwood Police responded to the call shortly before 1a.m. Friday in the 1400 block of Round Lake Road. Upon questioning of witnesses there, they discovered that Zurlon and his brother, Cortez Tipton, had left a party in Brownsburg upon receiving texts from Zurlon’s girlfriend that her life was in danger due to threatening text messages from her ex-boyfriend.

However further investigation revealed that the boyfriend was not inside the house and upon firing the rifle, both Zurlon and his brother fled the scene but were stopped shortly thereafter by Greenwood Police who arrested Zurlon and took him to Johnson County Jail.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
36. After her shot into his girlfriends house, they still didn't take his guns away.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:51 PM
Jun 2016

We don't have any gun control, clearly.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
37. The supreme court is working on that
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jun 2016

But in many cases, it takes an abused woman to file charges. Something many women are reluctant to do.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
35. So his idea of defending his girlfriend was to shoot into her house?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jun 2016

It's amazing this guy even made it to 26.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
29. Another life lost ... senselessly
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jun 2016

As horrified as i am that he was killed ... I am grateful no innocent bystanders/customers/staff were injured or killed.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
30. I'm so fucking sick of accidental shootings
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jun 2016

No,it's not accidental. If you didn't have a gun it wouldn't have happened. Period.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
43. In this case, it really was accidental.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jun 2016

Granted it was completely preventable.
Normally these things are negligent not accidental.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
39. Anyone stupid enough to carry around a loaded gun
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jun 2016

with apparently no safety whatever, and dies when that gun "accidentally" discharges, gets no sympathy from me.

We've got to stop using the word accident or accidental in cases like this. It's arrogant carelessness, pure and simple. My one positive thought is that at least it was the idiot who owned the gun who was the one killed, not some innocent and unfortunate bystander.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
40. No, not "accidentally"
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jun 2016

Stupidly. Carelessly. The only fortunate thing is that his carelessness with a deadly weapon did not kill anyone else, as it easily might have.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. 'accident' is valid in both its use and the context.
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 08:17 AM
Jun 2016

It seems an accurate example of an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm-- which is the definition of accident. Though it may yet fall well within the parameters of additional descriptors, 'accident' is valid in both its use and the context.

A does not imply -B.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
49. It was not an "accident" that the gun was loaded
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jun 2016

and then just tossed into a duffel bag. It was not an "accident" that it had no trigger guard or safety engaged. It was not an "accident" that the owner was not mindful of the fact that he had a deadly weapon in the bag, and handled it in a way that caused the gun to discharge.

"Unintentional" does not equate to "accidental". The owner of a gun bears moral (and should bear legal) responsibility for the forseeable consequences of the careless, reckless or negligent handling or discharge of that gun.

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