New Mexicans slap down Trump-loving tourist who whined about ‘angry Indians and illegal Mexicans’
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Source: Raw Story
New Mexicans slap down Trump-loving tourist who whined about ‘angry Indians and illegal Mexicans’
Brad Reed
28 Jun 2016 at 14:24 ET
Penn. native William Strong, who does not like "angry Indians and illegal Mexicans" (Facebook photo)
A Trump voter from Pennsylvania who recently went on a trip to New Mexico says he’s furious that his vacation was ruined by a group of “radical feminists, angry Indians and illegal Mexicans.”
As PennLive.com reports, William Strong of Oil City, Pa. recently wrote an angry letter to the editor at the Albuquerque Journal complaining about all the horrible, undesirable people who lived in New Mexico.
“(New Mexico) is a land filled with radical feminists, angry Indians and illegal Mexicans,” the 70-year-old man said in his letter. “We were verbally attacked twice in Santa Fe simply because we are Christian conservatives and hold a different political point of view. We were forced to ‘keep our mouths shut’ for fear of physical reprisals. In Taos, we both got a massage. I told the masseuse about our encounters in Santa Fe and that we would support Trump. Her exact words to me were to keep our mouths shut because we would be physically attacked.”
It’s worth noting that one of the “radical feminists” who allegedly told Strong that he’d physically attacked if he expressed his beliefs is disputing his account and is insisting that she and her friends were completely polite to Strong during their encounter.
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/new-mexicans-slap-down-trump-loving-tourist-who-whined-about-angry-indians-and-illegal-mexicans/
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Tempest
(14,591 posts)“They call themselves Native Americans, but anybody that’s right-minded knows that America was an uninhabited country..."
Maybe it was his ignorance that upset New Mexicans.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)OMG...what a fuggin idiot! 
christx30
(6,241 posts)European explorers arrived just after the plague hit, and the continent was kind of post apocalyptic at the time.
There was something along the lines of 100 million people here before the plague, with cities almost the size of New York.
SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)I think not. I'm not diminishing the holocaust that killed most of the Native American population but they did not live in cities of millions.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)There are plausible estimates that the pre-Columbian population of ALL of the Americas (North, South, Central and the Caribbean) may have been around 100 million people before first contact. It's estimated that the populations dropped between 50% and 90% in the 1500's as diseases shot across the America's following that contact, simply due to the native populations trading with each other along their own trade routes. When the first European colonists showed up many decades later to claim some of that land, they found the land much emptier than it had been a generation before.
It's estimated that the largest Native American "cities" had populations up around 100,000 people. That's about as big as you can get without wheels.
SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)I remember reading that French trappers were shocked to see a trading village around 1800 near what is now St Louis that would swell to an estimated 100,000 people at times, but most were there temporarily. This was when Philadelphia, the biggest city in North America, had about 75,000 people.
You mention 100,000 as a max "without wheels." As I recall, about a quarter of a million was the cap that Hugo, in Les Miserables, put on the size of a city without a sewer system.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)population--and sometimes they deliberately spread those diseases.
niyad
(132,440 posts)tblue37
(68,436 posts)spread deliberately.
0rganism
(25,644 posts)i mean, i've seen, heard, and smelt a lot of bullshit in my time, but that's gotta be in the top 20.
how do you even....
nevermind, i simply can't comprehend that line of thinking. it's like dissecting an alien life form -- wtf is that organ over there? and that thing? is that an eyeball?
conclusion: i am insufficiently "right-minded". 
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)uninhabited???
Iggo
(49,927 posts)
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)and where is he planning to deport them back to? Mexico? Asia?
Warpy
(114,614 posts)He looks a lot like a guy who noised off in Wally's when I was getting a prescription today. Couple of people in line told him to STFU, things took as long as they took and he was no better than they were.
Sometimes I love this state. Racists should know enough to stay away, white folks are just another of many minorities here.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)holding their own in a conversation with him was a radical feminist. I see he trumped up Christian and conservative victimization although there was no confirmation of that either
TexasBushwhacker
(21,202 posts)Every latino is illegal and from Mexico in their eyes. Of course they aren't all illegal, in fact most aren't. As for the "illegals" from Mexico, there's a good chance their ancestors were in Texas before mine were.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)The most common one I hear when I go home for a visit is "Guataranians." If they can't determine an ethnicity, they just make one up.
Truly heavy sigh.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Are they anything like the Salvonduricans?
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)
underpants
(196,491 posts)This guy is an asshole who goes out of his way to create an argument on a vacation no less.
TygrBright
(21,362 posts)Back to 1952 Oil City wit'cha, Dorothy. All you're gonna find in the Land of Enchantment is us skeery Radical Feminists, Angry Indians and Illegal Mexicans!
Actually, I have a hard time believing anyone told him he'd be "physically attacked" for airing his nasty racism. After all, Donald Rumsfeld's never gotten much worse than some fart noises and middle fingers when he shows his weasel-face in Taos.
Mister "Whaddever Happened to the Caucasian Cowboys" should probably have confined his touristy longings to suburban Texas down in the SE corner of the state, where they keep voting for whoever the Oiligarchs tell them to.
dismissively,
Bright
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)(snark)
Tempest
(14,591 posts)I said that I had lived in Texas with “crazy tea party people” that were often intolerant of others’ points of view. Now, don’t get me wrong, I am not insulting Texans. Texans are my fellow neighbors in Santa Fe; I was a Texan myself. I simply disagreed with tea party politics as expressed by some Texans in Texas and hoped that extreme points of view would not migrate to New Mexico.
Unfortunately, Mr. Strong got the trigger he was looking for, telling us that he was a tea party member. He then proceeded to launch a diatribe of vitriol expressing his hatred toward Hillary Clinton and espousing other ultra-conservative talking points. My friends and I were frankly stunned and immediately stopped responding to him.
The bottom line is, we were polite. We immediately recognized that he was overly agitated. We listened to him for at least 15 minutes, in silence, until his wife, hovering in the background, finally, to our relief, dragged him away.
Tempest
(14,591 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1
that's very encouraging to those hate groups
if penn state was to become a place of protest to get them to find apolitical stations to broadcast sports their advertisers would flee and those radio stations would fall apart. the hate, which is mostly based on bullshit these stations spew every day would die down to it's normal 10% sociopaths
Paladin
(32,354 posts)Alabama in between.......
niyad
(132,440 posts)niyad
(132,440 posts)having spent a great deal of time in NM, I find his assertions complete BS.
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Aristus
(72,179 posts)How did he ever survive??? 
Monk06
(7,675 posts)Apache and Mexicans
During the Viet Nam war I hated Americans like this guy. Entitled lazy white people who love nothing and nobody except their precious patriotism, which is just racism by another name.
Now the people I dispised then are like me; senior citizens and they have not evolved a bit from the people I disposed in 1968
LarryNM
(495 posts)wonder if they had an editor's note approving his letter.
Night Watchman
(743 posts)I can imagine the ball caps and t-shirts:
"Women Should Obey, Not Compete!"
"Indians Should THANK Whites For Civilizing Them!"
"Mexicans: We Fought The Revolutionary War To Gain Our Independence From Them In 1776 And Now They Want Special Treatment!"
Now why would that piss anyone off? 
liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)Full of beautiful people. I feel sorry for people who see the ugliness in themselves projected onto everything. That must be awful to experience day in and day out. I think Drumpf supporters could use an enema.
LuvNewcastle
(17,821 posts)In fact, I might be re-locating there soon. If he found a bunch of hostility in NM, I'm sure it was just a reaction to his assholery. Did he not do any research on NM before he went there? Really, if you don't want to experience something out of the ordinary, stay the fuck at home.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I have visited many places in the US and abroad where I am quite certain the subject of my political or religious beliefs did not come up in conversation, except among people with whom I'd done some hanging out.
What does this guy do? Go about offering his opinions to strangers?
LuckyLib
(7,052 posts)All the left wing hostility he was getting.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)If you are in a profession where you provide personal services to a broad range of people, then you become pretty skilled about not going into certain subjects. He had to try pretty hard.
ladym55
(2,577 posts)A day trip to Kennywood?
muntrv
(14,505 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)Slapping is wrong.
niyad
(132,440 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)tavernier
(14,443 posts)They weren't physically slapping him.
niyad
(132,440 posts)
King_Klonopin
(1,379 posts)HuskyOffset
(926 posts)Will white right-thinking Christians ever get a break in this country? They are so horribly oppressed these days!
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Why won't so-called "leaders" of the white community condemn?
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)with talk radio.
an epic fail.
alp227
(33,282 posts)
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)has seriously considered retiring to New Mexico, and I wouldn't mouth such bullshit.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)
DemoTex
(26,360 posts)Took the desert Southwest, where Indians should be on the reservation, dancing at 10, 2, and 4, drunk as Ira Hayes most of the time, and otherwise out of sight, to spark this Mitch McConnell lookalike (worst insult I can hurl without saying Fuckwad) to write his racist screed.
But the desert Southwest is burning. If William Strong was in the Santa Fe area recently, and if his nasal palate had been cleared of the Satan's Sulfur by prayer, then he probably got a whiff of drift smoke. With fabulous notes of Juniper and Pinyon.
I smell it almost daily (drift smoke, not Satan's Sulfur - yet). I am a small part of a very bad fire season in the desert Southwest. In my job (fire detection), I get to work directly with tactical fire suppression.
That said, I have worked with several Native American IHC (HotShot) crews this fire season. Incredibly tough. Dedicated. Committed to protecting the land we stole from them. Fighting wildland fires. So Mr. Strong, conservative Christian, can have a safe vacation in New Mexico.
So, I wish Mr. Strong had been in the lookout with me yesterday (well, no I don't actually). But he would have met a fire crew that hiked in to the lookout (wait, no, I think Turtle Jr would have stroked out "hiking" in. The Ed Abbey in me is kicking in). OK, let's just say that asshole was here in the lookout when that Sierra Vista Ranger District crew visited.
It was three guys, with a big Type-3 fire engine parked at the top of the mountain.
The engine captain was a very soft spoken guy. Obviously well educated. Interesting and interested. Immediately like-able. Chiricahua Apache. Within 30 minutes, they were dispatched to one of the never-ending fires in southern Arizona.
Thanks for your letter, Mr. Strong. Ignorance and hate are important in your life. So, Jesus.
Lance Bass esquire
(671 posts)Soon his type will have inbred themselves out if the gene pool
King_Klonopin
(1,379 posts)He does NOT like being part of a minority.
I lived in Santa Fe for 4 years. One valuable life-lesson I learned was
what it is like to be in the minority, the outsider, an "anglo" person
from the northeast who wasn't even born in the state of NM.
I understood the dynamic and accepted the situation as is. I was not in
Massachusetts anymore; and you ain't in Pennsylvania buddy. Reality is
that NM is very different from the rest of the country.
Shoe was on the other foot -- and he got pissy about it.
BTW 1 -- how does one discern that someone is an "illegal immigrant" ??
BTW 2 -- no one would have "physically attacked him" for his views. It is an
evenly divided state (lots of Texas types in the south, Santa Fe liberal like
San Francisco, CA) and pretty laid back. Poor victim of the evil straw man.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)although worthy of discussion, it is the consensus of the hosts that this is not "breaking news'
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