EU Calls for ‘Orderly’ Brexit at Historic Meeting Minus U.K.

[Purveyor]

Source: Bloomberg

European Union leaders called for an orderly British withdrawal from the bloc to minimize instability as they pledged to learn lessons from the U.K.’s political earthquake and do better at serving their citizens.

As EU government chiefs took the historic step of meeting without one of the bloc’s members for the first time, they lamented the British decision to part ways then began to lay plans for a new union minus its second-largest economy. That included setting the parameters of Britain’s future relationship with the EU, and insisting that negotiations to finalize secession won’t be started until the U.K. gives official notification of departure.

In their final statement released Wednesday, leaders of the 27 other nations said “there is a need to organize the withdrawal of the U.K. from the EU in an orderly fashion.” While the decision to trigger secession talks lies with Britain, and they can wait until a new prime minister is in place, “this should be done as quickly as possible.”

The language was more abrupt than a prior draft obtained by Bloomberg News which said only that “it would be preferable to do this quickly so as to avoid entering into a prolonged period of uncertainty.”

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-29/eu-calls-for-orderly-brexit-at-historic-meeting-without-u-k

[bdwker]

1. lol

“it would be preferable to do this quickly so as to avoid entering into a prolonged period of uncertainty.”

that's funny

[pampango]

2. The EU seems to be pushing the process. The UK responds, "Hey wait a minute. You are not good enough

for us, but let's take our time here. Let's wait for a new prime minister in a few months. Then it may take a while for that prime minister to 'study' the situation.

"You don't mind the 'too good for you' UK taking its sweet time until we feel the moment is right while you are left twisting in the wind, do you? This is all about us, not about all of you."

[OnDoutside]

3. No, it's not quite like that. Parliament is just about to break up anyway and organising a Tory

leadership contest will take its own time. In addition to that Cameron is trying to buy time, to figure a way out of this mess, not necessarily out of the EU.

[christx30]

6. The British govt should just

state the vote was advisory only (which it was) and they are going to ignore it. It'll piss off a bunch of people, and they'll take a political hit, but it's better than imploding their economy.
"Many of you aren't happy with the EU. But it's wasier to work on reforms from the inside than outside."

[OnDoutside]

16. There would be uproar if they did it that obviously. What could happen is Cameron goes in September,

the knives go out for Johnson, and Theresa May (who is Pro Europe) becomes PM. At that point she says that she doesn't have a mandate to trigger Article 50, and either calls a General Election (because Labour is in a mess) on a platform of staying in Europe or calls a 2nd referendum at that point.

[christx30]

17. I'd take an uproar over

the self destruction of the British economy, and the near certainty of independence referendums for Ireland and Scotland. The last thing the world needs is political Anarchy in the UK.

[Chakab]

13. Cameron kicked the can down to the next PM for two reasons.

1. If it's Boris Johnson, he wants Johnson to have to own the mess that's going to ensue when article 50 is triggered and the real separation process begins.

2. It's a ploy to attempt to engender enough buyer's remorse among the MPs that parliament will not vote for Brexit. The UK has no written constitution and hence all of the power to make laws rests with parliament. Referendums do not carry any legal weight as they do in the States, so the result of the Brexit vote could be ignored by lawmakers.

[geek tragedy]

4. UK: "I think we should see other people, but can we still hang out?"

EU: "Get the fuck out."

[cstanleytech]

5. I think its more like the EU is saying "Grow up and get out if you want out or STFU and suck it up"

[geek tragedy]

7. The EU is pretty explicitly not contemplating the UK staying.

Merkel made a point that such votes don't get do-overs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/world/europe/brexit.html?_r=0

Referring to the terrorist attack on Tuesday at Istanbul’s Ataturk Airport, she said a world “characterized by turmoil and turbulences” was “not waiting for the European Union to make up its mind,” an apparent reference to uncertainty over its relations with Britain and the future direction of what began as a peace project after World War II and has since grown into the world’s biggest economic bloc.





Mark Rutte, the prime minister of the Netherlands, historically one of Britain’s closest allies in pushing Europe to focus on strengthening market forces and protecting sovereign rights, said the economic and political mayhem caused by Britain’s vote to leave should deter others.

“To everybody thinking of leaving the single market, this is what happens,” he said.

The turmoil has stirred hope in some quarters that Britain might, in the end, never take the next, formal step to leave the European Union. Ms. Merkel, however, dismissed this as “impossible.”



As to whether Britain could hold another referendum with a different outcome, she said that was highly unlikely. “As of tonight I do not see any possibility to reverse this decision,” she said. “It is not the hour for wishful thinking.”
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Mr. Cameron, attending what will probably be his last European summit meeting in Brussels, also stressed that there was no turning back from last week’s vote in favor of Brexit, as Britain’s withdrawal from the union is known.

The relationship is over, just a matter of the UK moving its stuff out and finding a new place to live.

[cstanleytech]

8. I thought the UK was the one that had to formally invoke article 50 to initiate the UK leaving?

[geek tragedy]

9. Yes, but that's the thing, they have to do so now.

There's no going back.

Parliament will vote to invoke, probably before the end of the year.

[cstanleytech]

11. So, they dont have to invoke 50 to leave they can just be forcibly removed?

[geek tragedy]

12. No, but parliament has to respect the will of the people.

the vote wasn't particularly close.

Cameron lead the anti-Brexit campaign and he's going to vote to invoke 50 when it comes up.

[Chakab]

14. "Parliament has to respect the will of the people."

Actually, they do not.

[geek tragedy]

15. the leading opponents of the Brexit are indicating there's no choice but to follow through nt

[pampango]

21. Conservatives won. Liberals lost. Liberals, unfortunately, need to deal with it. It is reality.

Liberal politicians in the UK and Europe seem to understand this. Conservative politicians in the UK are the ones who seem to be stalling on the implementation of Brexit.

Tories could file the Article 50 and start the Brexit negotiations with the EU. Of course, doing that now would mean that they actually had a plan formulated for Brexit. In reality, it is only now that they are asking themselves, "What do we do now? What do we want from the negotiations?" Fools!

Posters on the internet may make wild suggestions that liberals should ignore the referendum results but that is not only un-democratic but political suicide for the left in the long run, both in the UK and the rest of Europe. The far-right in other countries would have a field day with the left overriding a democratic vote to weaken, and perhaps eventually destroy, the EU. It's what the far-right wants. Overriding democracy would energize them.

[geek tragedy]

22. Somewhere Charles DeGaulle is saying "I told you so." nt

[840high]

18. They should.

[Chakab]

19. They should act in the best interest of the country. Referenda in the British system are simply

advisory votes. Considering that the people have advised them to blow up the country, they should ignore the advice and take their chances in the next election. If the people want to vote UKIP into power because Parliament refuses to separate from the European Union, let them.

Cameron deferred in triggering article 50 of the Lisbon treaty so that the public and politicians alike who support Brexit will get a taste what's actually going to happen if they go down that road.

[840high]

20. People know what's better for them. Politicians

not so much. This was democracy speaking.

[Javaman]

10. the EU may want that, but I seriously doubt they will get that. nt