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CaptainSensible

(35 posts)
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 07:40 PM Jun 2016

Move over, ‘Trump U,’ the new scandal is the ‘Trump Institute’

Source: Rachel Maddow Show Blog - MSNBC

The scandal surrounding “Trump University” is already an albatross for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. The entire enterprise has been accused of being a con job, ripping off “students” who trusted the developer’s name.

But as it turns out, there’s a new, related controversy surrounding the “Trump Institute,” which is something else. The New York Times reports today that the Republican candidate “lent his name, and his credibility” to this seminar business, which offered Trump’s “wealth-creating secrets and strategies” for up to $2,000.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/move-over-trump-u-the-new-scandal-the-trump-institute?cid=sm_fb_maddow



Who wants to bet TRUMP ends up convicted on Federal fraud charges before Nov 8?
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Move over, ‘Trump U,’ the new scandal is the ‘Trump Institute’ (Original Post) CaptainSensible Jun 2016 OP
Will Rachel do a 20 minute opening monologue about this? bluestateguy Jun 2016 #1
She will start with Plato's Academy, rest at the University of Bologna, and end up with trump. rug Jun 2016 #4
You left out closing by drawing a bunch of circles on her script. George II Jun 2016 #14
Crap! I left out the rustling papers sound too. rug Jun 2016 #15
*SNICKER* n/t Earth Bound Misfit Jun 2016 #5
LOL...don't forget.... DrToast Jun 2016 #11
I love Rachel PatSeg Jun 2016 #19
Ya gotta appeal to Fox viewers, doncha know. (wink,wink) griloco Jul 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #27
You guys are good. randome Jul 2016 #31
popping... TeamPooka Jun 2016 #2
Need to give this scandal a good name... SummerSnow Jun 2016 #3
Why is it sounding like a prostitute a bad thing? drm604 Jun 2016 #13
STSDTD jmowreader Jun 2016 #21
tRump Institute for the Criminally Insane Scarsdale Jul 2016 #28
The man is a con man Botany Jun 2016 #6
i see this as worse than trump institute dembotoz Jun 2016 #22
The list keeps growing Botany Jun 2016 #23
Didn't Trump sue them too? griloco Jul 2016 #25
That is the same thing Trump University did. olddad56 Jun 2016 #7
No chance he would be prosecuted/convicted on this one. Just confirms he's a fraud. Shrike47 Jun 2016 #8
Shouldn't that be the "Trump Institution ..." Martin Eden Jun 2016 #9
"Who wants to bet TRUMP ends up convicted" - Trump seems to have lawyers on 24/7 retainer... PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #10
NYT: Trump Institute Offered Get-Rich Schemes With Plagiarized Lessons riversedge Jun 2016 #12
He did not "lend" his name TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #16
Trump won't be convicted NewJeffCT Jun 2016 #17
A truly wealthy person would not get involved in such nonsense. n/t Yavin4 Jun 2016 #18
It's like Obama getting out of office and deciding he wants to sell dog-racing tip sheets. randome Jul 2016 #32
His supporters don't CARE..... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #20
Trump's New York Values-- a blend of Bernie Madoff and Willie Sutton griloco Jul 2016 #26
Isn't plagiarism a highly respected practice in business? And a class in Business schools? L. Coyote Jul 2016 #29
Who wants to bet TRUMP ends up convicted on Federal fraud charges before Nov 8? Krasniman Jul 2016 #30
 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. She will start with Plato's Academy, rest at the University of Bologna, and end up with trump.
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jun 2016

Then, with a serious face, she will turn it over to her guest, finally thanking him or her with a modified namaste when they're done.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
11. LOL...don't forget....
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jun 2016

Repeat herself 47 times along the way.

By the way, I do like her, but she talks down to her audience.

PatSeg

(47,168 posts)
19. I love Rachel
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jun 2016

but the redundancy is getting really annoying. I like a little background material here and there, but there are many times when I just wish she'd get to the point. Yes, it does feel like she is talking down to her audience, like she is an elementary school teacher.

Response to bluestateguy (Reply #1)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
31. You guys are good.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jul 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
3. Need to give this scandal a good name...
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jun 2016

' Trumpstitute'? Wait that sounds like prostitute

'TrUniversity? Trumpiversity?

jmowreader

(50,520 posts)
21. STSDTD
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jun 2016

Same Trump shit, different Trump day.

The first line in Hillary's inaugural address will be "marshals, hold that man."

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
28. tRump Institute for the Criminally Insane
Sun Jul 3, 2016, 07:42 AM
Jul 2016

THAT has a ring of truth to it. Does he give tips on how to file multiple bankruptcies, and still come out ahead of the game? Flim-flam man extrordinaire! Maybe $carah PayMe could start HER own school, on grifting. Since her entire family is unemployed, yet flying to Hawaii, with expensive purses etc. surely she has tips for the workers among us?

Botany

(70,422 posts)
23. The list keeps growing
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jun 2016

The Trump Network, The Trump institute, Trump Ocean view condos, & Trump University ....

What do they all have in common? D. Trump made money, they were scams, people
had their money taken and got little if nothing in return, and they all had the "Trump
name" on them.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
8. No chance he would be prosecuted/convicted on this one. Just confirms he's a fraud.
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 08:39 PM
Jun 2016

The steaks weren't very good, but at least they were cheaper.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
10. "Who wants to bet TRUMP ends up convicted" - Trump seems to have lawyers on 24/7 retainer...
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jun 2016

Don't bet the farm on that happening.

And I still think that the "Trump Network" vitamin marketing business was worse.


riversedge

(70,007 posts)
12. NYT: Trump Institute Offered Get-Rich Schemes With Plagiarized Lessons
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 09:26 PM
Jun 2016

Good article here also. Trump is not only a LIAR--he is a thief!


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/us/politics/donald-trump-institute-plagiarism.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur



Trump Institute Offered Get-Rich Schemes With Plagiarized Lessons

By JONATHAN MARTINJUNE 29, 2016


...........As with Trump University, the Trump Institute promised falsely that its teachers would be handpicked by Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump did little, interviews show, besides appear in an infomercial — one that promised customers access to his vast accumulated knowledge. “I put all of my concepts that have worked so well for me, new and old, into our seminar,” he said in the 2005 video, adding, “I’m teaching what I’ve learned.”

Reality fell far short. In fact, the institute was run by a couple who had run afoul of regulators in dozens of states and had been dogged by accusations of deceptive business practices and fraud for decades. Similar complaints soon emerged about the Trump Institute.

Yet there was an even more fundamental deceit to the business, unreported until now: Extensive portions of the materials that students received after paying their seminar fees, supposedly containing Mr. Trump’s special wisdom, had been plagiarized from an obscure real estate manual published a decade earlier.................




An Example of the Copied Text

At least 20 pages of the Trump Institute instructional book were copied
entirely or in large part from a book in a set titled “Real Estate Mastery
System.” Highlighted here is an example of some of what was duplicated.
From the book published first in 1995 by Success magazine




Real Estate Mastery System: Mortgage and Finance, Success magazine

TexasBushwhacker

(20,116 posts)
16. He did not "lend" his name
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:46 AM
Jun 2016

He SOLD it. If they paid him enough, there would be Trump Anal Lube at your local adult novelties store.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. Trump won't be convicted
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:05 AM
Jun 2016

he's alleged to be a billionaire, so can afford enough legal support to not get convicted, or to delay it out past the election. As my Dad used to say, you're innocent as long as your money holds out.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
32. It's like Obama getting out of office and deciding he wants to sell dog-racing tip sheets.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jul 2016

Trump has no class whatsoever. His public meltdown will be both glorious and disturbing.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. His supporters don't CARE.....
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jun 2016

They like screaming "Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!" as they beat down and stomp on minorities.

Krasniman

(1 post)
30. Who wants to bet TRUMP ends up convicted on Federal fraud charges before Nov 8?
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jul 2016

you mean "indicted," no charges have been filed yet...and even if they were, any trial would be at least 12 months away.

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