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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:13 PM Jul 2016

4 Children Fatally Stabbed in Memphis; Mother in Custody

Source: ABC News

Officials say four young children in suburban Memphis have been fatally stabbed and their mother has been taken into custody.

Shelby County Sheriff Bill Oldham told reporters deputies were called to an apartment complex in the county shortly before 1 p.m. Friday.

Oldham said they are working to notify the next of kin and won't release names before that.

Officials have not released the ages of the children, but sheriff's office spokesman Earle Farrell said deputies responding to the scene called them "babies."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/children-fatally-stabbed-memphis-mother-custody-40287581

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4 Children Fatally Stabbed in Memphis; Mother in Custody (Original Post) Calista241 Jul 2016 OP
Lemme guess: forest444 Jul 2016 #1
that is simply your guess, you have nothing to substantiate your guess. olddad56 Jul 2016 #2
Hence, the guess. forest444 Jul 2016 #3
Why 'guess' about a tragedy? Justice Jul 2016 #11
Because that's all we can do - just as every other comment below does (and rightfully). forest444 Jul 2016 #12
how do you intend to find out? olddad56 Jul 2016 #17
an odd way to 'discuss' Justice Jul 2016 #22
Likewise, post partum depression/psychosis can be a terrible thing. haele Jul 2016 #4
True. forest444 Jul 2016 #6
Yeah, if they were all young, this is the most likely cause Warpy Jul 2016 #27
I take an SSRI. Aerows Jul 2016 #10
Trying to stop it suddenly can get you there Warpy Jul 2016 #28
Well that's true. Aerows Jul 2016 #31
I would guess she was under the influence of religion Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #14
Very good point. forest444 Jul 2016 #15
Stigmatizing those of us who take SSRIs? Do you have no fucking shame? Odin2005 Jul 2016 #23
really offensive comment. mopinko Jul 2016 #25
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #32
Our local news is reporting they were all under 6 in age. B2G Jul 2016 #5
Confimation here. B2G Jul 2016 #7
..... 840high Jul 2016 #8
The economy is doing grand, and credit should be given. We save a ton by not funding mental jtuck004 Jul 2016 #9
Sounds as if she could have gotten help, or at least afforded it... Photographer Jul 2016 #13
But that would assume that she knew she was mentally ill TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #16
Google says it's pretty cheap. $685 - $930 LeftyMom Jul 2016 #19
There's NO help for depression even for the rich! FixTheProblem Jul 2016 #20
For all the replies to my post, I'll stand corrected... Photographer Jul 2016 #21
try to imagine responding to that scene Skittles Jul 2016 #18
No words. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #29
We need more funding for the mentally ill in this country. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #24
Mercy shenmue Jul 2016 #26
7 yr old boy escaped - ran out of house screaming his mother was killing his sister womanofthehills Jul 2016 #30

forest444

(5,902 posts)
1. Lemme guess:
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jul 2016

She was probably on SSRIs (in many of these cases, the culprit usually is).

May those beautiful children rest in peace, and All the Best to the grieving family.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
2. that is simply your guess, you have nothing to substantiate your guess.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:23 PM
Jul 2016

she could have been on SSRI's, as they are a widely used anti-depressant. However, I wouldn't blame the drug until you at least, know she was taking them, why she was taking them, and her history of mental illness prior to this tragic incident.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
3. Hence, the guess.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:27 PM
Jul 2016

But that has in fact often been the case in incidents involving psychotic episodes and multiple injuries or deaths - even in otherwise stable people.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
12. Because that's all we can do - just as every other comment below does (and rightfully).
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jul 2016

If anything pharmaceutical contributed to this tragedy (as has often been the case in the past), we deserve to know. Discussing possible contributing causes is what everyone reading about these news - on DU or not - is doing, even if only to themselves.

The family involved certainly is.

haele

(12,646 posts)
4. Likewise, post partum depression/psychosis can be a terrible thing.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jul 2016

Along with any other number of potential chemical or mental triggers for this sort of violence against the children. But remember - just because the mother is in custody doesn't mean she was the one who held the knife.

I share your wishes for the grieving family.

Haele

forest444

(5,902 posts)
6. True.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jul 2016

Even Victorian England in all its oppressive self-righteousness made an exception for post-partum depression in cases where the mother took the life of her baby.

Even so, we should know if SSRIs were involved; they often have been since the advent of Prozac in the early '90s.

Warpy

(111,244 posts)
27. Yeah, if they were all young, this is the most likely cause
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jul 2016

I've known 3 women with post partum psychosis. Two are dead. One is disfigured.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
10. I take an SSRI.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jul 2016

I don't recall having the urge to ever assault anybody, much less murder children.

Don't disparage people that have been helped by them and cast them as raving lunatics that kill children.

Warpy

(111,244 posts)
28. Trying to stop it suddenly can get you there
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jul 2016

I was on one for 8 months when they first came out. I dreamed in bright color, but it did nothing for the fibro, so I wanted off it. I found out very quickly that it would have to be tapered down.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. Well that's true.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 09:10 PM
Jul 2016

Even missing it for a day or two and I can tell. You pretty much realize that you will never, ever sleep again and have a low grade headache.

I'd like to think I still wouldn't be inclined to run around gunning down anybody, let alone family members.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
15. Very good point.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jul 2016

Religious hysteria, as we all know, can have an almost hypnotic effect on weak (or weakened) people.

Stephen King didn't get his inspiration for Carrie out of nowhere.

mopinko

(70,077 posts)
25. really offensive comment.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jul 2016

damaging.

ssri's have given many people their lives back. if you dont think that is the case, you are too uniformed to comment on the situation.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
9. The economy is doing grand, and credit should be given. We save a ton by not funding mental
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Fri Jul 1, 2016, 05:21 PM - Edit history (1)

health care and research, btw. We will have more shootings and stabbings because of that, it is a known, statistical fact.

It might not be fair, but in the end one makes a choice as to what to do. Spend less and keep the value of money up for those who have the most, or invest in the country and save families and their lives and listen to people complain about the spending. Either way, we all pay the bill.

I would rather fight the complainers than hear the kids crying as they die. Maybe some folks can't hear them from where they are.


Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama?


http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/#436fa18d57ec

On edit: I don't mean he can go out like a real estate swindler and just make it all better.

But in my view, our problem with many things ain't terrorists and it ain't testosterone - it is the need for someone to stand up and tell us we need to invest in our "human" infrastructure, neglected now for so many decades. Not the concrete stuff, the human squishy stuff. Mental health is just a part of it, but it would be a start.

Drop the muslim cover, that's for the swindler.

That would do more for gun control than the current crop of "legislation that won't pass" controls.

 

Photographer

(1,142 posts)
13. Sounds as if she could have gotten help, or at least afforded it...
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jul 2016

"The apartment where the stabbing occurred is in a gated community with a golf course called The Greens at Irene. "

You don't rent on a golf course cheaply.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,173 posts)
16. But that would assume that she knew she was mentally ill
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jul 2016

I have struggled with depression for the last 40 years. I've participated in several clinical trials. One of the things the always ask is "Do you hear things other people don't hear or see things they don't see?" I always laugh and say "How would I know?" They are not amused.

But that's the problem. Mental illness isn't like a broken leg. If you fall and your leg hurts like hell, you go to the ER. But it's not that way with mental illness. While a depressed person may realize something's wrong and seeks help, a someone who is psychotic may not. Those hallucinations are REAL.

I was in the hospital once and everybody talks about why they are there. One young woman said she was driving and God spoke to her. She was startled and jumped the curb, causing some minor property damage. The cops said she could go to jail or go to the hospital. So she was taking the antipsychotics they gave her and going along with everything so she could get out. But she didn't think anything was wrong with her. She said "I'm not crazy. I just had a spiritual experience. I don't know why they don't understand that."

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
19. Google says it's pretty cheap. $685 - $930
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jul 2016

I know money goes farther in TN than it does in some other places, but being able to afford $930 in rent doesn't mean one can afford insurance, copays, etc. Especially in a state that did not participate in medicaid expansion: it's pretty easy to picture a family living in a decent apartment falling into the gap between being poor enough for Medicaid and prosperous enough to afford useful health coverage.

 

FixTheProblem

(22 posts)
20. There's NO help for depression even for the rich!
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jul 2016

It doesn't matter if you're poor or rich, black or white, man or woman, if you're depressed, you get magic pills thrown your way and a "So I'll see you in three months, what was your name again?"

 

Photographer

(1,142 posts)
21. For all the replies to my post, I'll stand corrected...
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 09:39 PM
Jul 2016

I suffer from severe depression myself and have never been given a drug that puts a real dent in it and one on one weekly sessions get expensive and eventually tiring... It's a fucking hard thing to deal with.

womanofthehills

(8,697 posts)
30. 7 yr old boy escaped - ran out of house screaming his mother was killing his sister
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jul 2016

ages of kids killed - 4,3,2, 6 months

mother had been acting strange - even went missing in March -

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