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Night Watchman

(743 posts)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 05:47 PM Jul 2016

Black Man Was Stopped by Police for Sitting in His Car, Reading C.S. Lewis

Source: Mic

By Kathleen Wong July 13, 2016

On July 7, former high school English teacher Louizandre Dauphin was fed up with the news cycle and decided to drive to a quiet place to do some reading.

Sound suspicious? Residents that saw him in his car thought so and, naturally, they called the police, who stopped the black New Brunswick, Canada, resident as he drove back home.

In his subsequent Instagram post about the incident, Dauphin said the officer told him that locals had reported a suspicious black man sitting in a parked car.

In the post, he explains that the week's string of racially charged violence in the United States, compounded with his own personal struggles, left Dauphin "stewing in my apartment," he wrote to his Instagram. So he decided to blow off steam with some nature and reading.

On his drive home, Dauphin was going slightly under the speed limit, so he was confused when an officer pulled up behind him with his lights on. The cop was "kind and respectful," wrote Dauphin, verified his information, asked him the "usual questions" and then asked whether Dauphin was in Janeville earlier that night. When Dauphin expressed shock at being reported for just hanging out in his car, the officer replied, "Well, you know, it's a small town."

Read more: https://mic.com/articles/148519/this-black-man-was-stopped-by-police-for-sitting-in-his-car-reading-c-s-lewis#.k2NbHnTBH



Okay, so maybe Canadians are a tad bit more racist than I thought. Still doesn't come close to our level, though.
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Black Man Was Stopped by Police for Sitting in His Car, Reading C.S. Lewis (Original Post) Night Watchman Jul 2016 OP
Does not shock me.. HipChick Jul 2016 #1
Canada defintely has some issues with racism MrScorpio Jul 2016 #2
please explain what you mean cntrfthrs Jul 2016 #28
Just what Mr. Scorpio said obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #33
Could be a legitimate "check welfare" stop... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #3
He was told that it was called in as "suspicious black man" MH1 Jul 2016 #7
The fact he was reported as "suspicious black man" and that it was a wharf... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #11
Yes, the lack of details in the original post MH1 Jul 2016 #12
Third Paragraph of the OP Night Watchman Jul 2016 #48
"His actions sound like those of a depressed person" awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #24
Yeah I drive off and park somewhere and read poetry all the time. Then I leave... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #26
I go to the park when I'm stressed awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #27
I still do not see how a cop pulling this guy over for being black could be construed as a wellness 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #29
Actually, lots of people do that obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #35
HAHAHA- sorry, didn't pass giggle test. nt 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #39
Just because you don't read poetry, that doesn't mean no one does. tblue37 Jul 2016 #44
Reading poetry is GREAT when stuck somewhere or waiting on someone... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #46
Just another white person awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #45
Incorrect. For the record I don't care what color you are. nt 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #47
He said he was "stewing" which isn't being depressed obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #34
"Stewing" is not being depressed? 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #38
"Canada" didn't call this in padfun Jul 2016 #4
Please see my link and excerpt above, it was several people. MH1 Jul 2016 #9
I know, but even then. padfun Jul 2016 #14
Bet that ticked off police. I think it was Richard Pryor who joked about a policeman Hoyt Jul 2016 #5
Yup, Canadians can be racist too IronLionZion Jul 2016 #6
Murder would be Very Impolite, EH? Night Watchman Jul 2016 #17
Ask northern Native Americans if whites are a "tad bit" racist in Canada Person 2713 Jul 2016 #8
+1 FailureToCommunicate Jul 2016 #16
Is C.S. Lewis .... sheshe2 Jul 2016 #10
If so, Night Watchman Jul 2016 #18
DWB Mendocino Jul 2016 #13
Or more simply: R kentauros Jul 2016 #31
OMG. progressoid Jul 2016 #42
And of course it happened at a Waffle House kentauros Jul 2016 #43
Deep in their instinctive hearts zentrum Jul 2016 #15
Disagree. Elmergantry Jul 2016 #21
Yeah, that's the easy zentrum Jul 2016 #23
NAILED IT! Night Watchman Jul 2016 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #49
I think the "easy unthinking reaction" Elmergantry Jul 2016 #36
I see no one on this thread blaming "everything on whitey." LanternWaste Jul 2016 #40
sounds like it to me Elmergantry Jul 2016 #41
training ? DustyJoe Jul 2016 #19
i blame the 911 callers & 911 not asking more. pansypoo53219 Jul 2016 #20
K&R.. thank you.. Cha Jul 2016 #22
driving while litterate.....oh the humanity dembotoz Jul 2016 #25
Oh, I actually think in some ways they can be more racist obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #32
Just be grateful it wasn't Edgar Allan Poe. ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2016 #37

MrScorpio

(73,765 posts)
2. Canada defintely has some issues with racism
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jul 2016

It's just that they're not as frequently compounded by acts of violence, unless we're talking about problems involving First Nations peoples instead.

obamanut2012

(29,246 posts)
33. Just what Mr. Scorpio said
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 05:14 AM
Jul 2016

Even the Canadian gov't has recognized how First Nations folks, especially the women, are treated, especially by LEOs.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
3. Could be a legitimate "check welfare" stop...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jul 2016

so to even mention it weakens others. His actions sound like those of a depressed person, which is even hinted at in the report in the OP.

MH1

(19,088 posts)
7. He was told that it was called in as "suspicious black man"
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:06 PM
Jul 2016
A Bathurst man says he was pulled over and questioned by RCMP while driving home from Stonehaven wharf, and was told it was because police received several calls regarding a "suspicious black man" in a white car parked at the wharf.

Louizandre Dauphin, the director of parks, recreation and tourism for the City of Bathurst, was reading an anthology of works by C.S. Lewis.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-bathurst-reading-wharf-1.3672419

Couple key points -

* public area. Not like he just pulled over in a neighborhood where he doesn't live just because it was nice and quiet (which was an option left open by the article linked in the OP)
* employed professional - not (just) a "former teacher" as indicated in the OP's link

Doesn't really sound like a depressed person to me. He went to a nice place to read a book. Some shitheads thought he was scary because he was black.

Sigh.
 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
11. The fact he was reported as "suspicious black man" and that it was a wharf...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jul 2016

are not in the original post, which is what my comments were based upon.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHlCfJvDLbB/embed/






























weren't in original post


Sigh.














MH1

(19,088 posts)
12. Yes, the lack of details in the original post
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jul 2016

is what caused me to click through to the news article, which thankfully was more substantive.

 

Night Watchman

(743 posts)
48. Third Paragraph of the OP
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jul 2016
In his subsequent Instagram post about the incident, Dauphin said the officer told him that locals had reported a suspicious black man sitting in a parked car.


So...what gives?
 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
26. Yeah I drive off and park somewhere and read poetry all the time. Then I leave...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:37 PM
Jul 2016

making sure I drive under the speed limit, all the while contemplating not only problems in our society but my "own personal struggles" as well. This after getting weary after "stewing in my apartment" and needing to blow off some steam. Who doesn't do that?

Then, if some police officer stops me and asks me if I'm OK I usually assure him I am and go on about my business. You?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
27. I go to the park when I'm stressed
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:53 PM
Jul 2016

and most African Americans drive at speed limit or a little below it to not get hassled by the cops. I still do not see how a cop pulling this guy over for being black could be construed as a wellness check. In fact, the "this is a small town" excuse the cop gave is a big dog whistle.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
29. I still do not see how a cop pulling this guy over for being black could be construed as a wellness
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jul 2016

check."

Well who could if they accepted your premise? You take the fact he was pulled over BECAUSE he was black as a given. I don't. After all was said and done he was determined to be OK and he went on his way. Was he ordered out of his car? Did he have to sit on the curb? Handcuffed? Patted down? Car searched? Him or his car sniffed by a dog? Backups called? Put in back of police cruiser?

I think all I sit and read in my car is directions on how to fix what's causing my car to just sit there. And I have never read poetry to "blow off steam." I would be much more likely to be blasting something raucous on the sound system.

tblue37

(68,341 posts)
44. Just because you don't read poetry, that doesn't mean no one does.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jul 2016

One of my students told me she kept her big poetry anthology from my course in her car so she could read poetry whenever she was stuck somewhere. Once people learn to understand and appreciate it, they often find reading poetry to be remarkably enjoyable.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
46. Reading poetry is GREAT when stuck somewhere or waiting on someone...
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jul 2016

or while sitting or laying in a park or at the beach or in nature anywhere or at home or many, many other places. If I went outside right now, though, and someone was just parked along the curb reading poetry or anything else, with no other purpose for being there, I would think it odd. My initial comment on this thread was based upon the first post which made it sound as though that could describe what he was doing. Being at a scenic wharf (which was apparently the case) changes it, in my mind, so as to not be quite so odd.

What happened after he was stopped other than the officer briefly talking to the guy and letting him proceed on his way? That IS consistent with a welfare check, don't you think? Did anything happen after he was stopped that is inconsistent with a simple welfare check?

obamanut2012

(29,246 posts)
34. He said he was "stewing" which isn't being depressed
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 05:16 AM
Jul 2016

He needed to get away from all the negative news and chill someplace where he wasn't be a TV or his computer. That isn't a "wellness check."

WTF

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
38. "Stewing" is not being depressed?
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:02 AM
Jul 2016

Thanks, never knew those terms were mutually exclusive.

When a police officer talks to someone to make sure they are OK it is called a "welfare check". Happens frequently. WTF

padfun

(1,889 posts)
4. "Canada" didn't call this in
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jul 2016

One person did. I wouldn't make wide judgments of groups based on one phone call and the required look. In fact, the cop checked and went on his way.

(in reply to several follow-up posts)

MH1

(19,088 posts)
9. Please see my link and excerpt above, it was several people.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jul 2016

And it sounds like it isn't a completely isolated event.

padfun

(1,889 posts)
14. I know, but even then.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jul 2016

There will always be rednecks, even in the most tolerant land. Seven percent of all people are clinically insane, maybe more if you count Trumpers. I'll bet the non racist will vastly outnumber the racist ones. It's just that the loafs get all of the attention.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Bet that ticked off police. I think it was Richard Pryor who joked about a policeman
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:01 PM
Jul 2016

following him in the South. The police were very hostile to Blacks who could read. Pryor said he was driving very carefully down a steep hill and as he go close to the intersection he saw a Stop sign -- "Oh Lord, if I stop they'll harass me because I'm educated, if I run it, they'll get me for running a Stop sign." Of course he really embellished the story. Might have been another comedian.

zentrum

(9,870 posts)
15. Deep in their instinctive hearts
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jul 2016

…White people are so afraid of Black people because White people know that for 400 years White people have tortured, robbed, and impoverished Black people. Even if an individual White person feels they've done none of these things, they know their group, in history, and up to the present moment, has done great evil.

You're damn right Whites are afraid. So they call the cops over a "suspicious Black man in a car". They are so afraid of their own history—never atoned for, never set right.

We need truth and reconciliation trials, reparations and an admission of history. As well as economic and social justice. Then White people won't be so afraid and making such trouble in the lives of ordinary Black people just trying to live.



zentrum

(9,870 posts)
23. Yeah, that's the easy
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:15 PM
Jul 2016

..knee jerk unthinking reaction but why do those statistics exist as they are?

White people's treatment of Black people is the reason those statistics exist as they are in the first place. Look deeper for why they are so uptight and convinced by those statistics.

White people, on some level, know that they've visited a horror on Black people. That's the conversation that needs to happen.

 

Night Watchman

(743 posts)
30. NAILED IT!
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 02:06 AM
Jul 2016

Not only do whites have a terrible record in our treatment of blacks, we have a terrible record in our treatment of everybody who isn't us!

Spot on, zentrum!

Response to Night Watchman (Reply #30)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
40. I see no one on this thread blaming "everything on whitey."
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:11 AM
Jul 2016

I see no one on this thread blaming "everything on whitey." I do however, perceive an implied corollary.

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
19. training ?
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jul 2016

Police dispatchers need training on whether to even dispatch a patrol car on a citizens complaint call.

So what happens when you call on a suspicous anything and the dispatcher decides it's not important ?

obamanut2012

(29,246 posts)
32. Oh, I actually think in some ways they can be more racist
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 05:12 AM
Jul 2016

Because they have had a less diverse society for a much shorter period than the US. This is a blanket statement from my own experiences.

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