Teen lesbian couple found shot in Texas park

[banned from Kos]

Source: MSNBC

Two teenage girls in a relationship were found with gunshot wounds to the head in a south Texas park, with one of them dying from her injuries, media reports say. Police were searching for their assailants.

Mollie Judith Olgin, 19, and Mary Christine Chapa, 18, were found in knee-deep grass in a nature area in Portland by a couple Saturday, said Portland Police Chief Randy Wright, who confirmed to msnbc.com details first reported by the Corpus Christi Caller Times.

Read more: http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/25/12402620-teen-lesbian-couple-found-shot-in-texas-park?lite

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Stop the bigotry!

[frogmarch]

1. Damn! I hope that whoever did this

pays. If I said what I would like to happen to the shooter/s, my post would probably be hidden.

[PotatoChip]

2. This is so sad.

I hope they catch the perpetrator(s).

[maddezmom]

3. so sad

I haven't heard about it on the local news, will have to check it tonight.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. How horrifying!

My heart breaks to hear this...

[DeSwiss]

5. K&R n/t

[Auggie]

6. Vibes for Chapa; here's to your recovery and identifying the murderer

[joshcryer]

15. +1

I hope she can identify them, as well. These people need to be off the streets. I'm thinking it was a jealous ex / stalker type.

[bluesbassman]

7. Awful. I hope Mary Chapra fully recovers.

Maybe she can give the police some info to help catch the creep/s that did this.

[jimlup]

8. Ah Man!

Not fucking fair! God damn it! The right wing incites violence like this and then when it happens they look the other way or gloat.

This really pisses me off! It reminds me that I need to do more to make it better!

[Beacool]

9. Terrible!!!

I hope they catch the SOB who did this. My condolences to Mollie's family and my best wishes to Mary for a speedy recovery.

So much evil in this world...........

[Hulk]

10. Welcome to Texas, y'all.

I have driven back and forth to Mexico from Portland, Oregon...and I drive through Texas just as quickly as I can. I have to preface this by saying I know some really great folks from Texas. But it is also one of the largest and scariest places to drive through with my Hispanic wife, and I absolutely HATE the state and the backwardness and bigotry that it is home to. I have little good to say about my time there. I enjoy Dallas, and Austin, and DFW has one of the best airports in the country...but that's all the positives I can think of. Drive through Pecos, Texas some time, and you'll understand my point. What a terrible place to visit...or be forced to drive through.

[mindwalker_i]

14. Give the poor state a break

Someone was just standing their ground. And they were supporting the troops too!

[aquart]

26. But it's not a poor state, it's a rich state.

It just behaves like a poor state leaving its citizens to wallow in ignorance and bigotry

[Paladin]

29. Now, Now, Be Polite.

When you're trying to blame the entire state of Texas for a tragic incident such as this, good manners call for you to make exceptions for (1.) a very few decent people who live in Texas, undoubtedly against their will; and (2.) the city of Austin, which, as everybody knows, is the only Really Cool Place in the state. Thank you for your consideration.

(Sarcasm alert, for those who need it.)

[4th law of robotics]

31. You do realize Texas is on the low end

of the hate crime stats:



Stay out of New England. Bunch of violent bigoted hicks up there.

And while their being lesbians *may* have been a factor I think we should wait until they actually find the people who do this rather than creating an entire narrative based merely on state stereotypes.

"When asked if police had been able to determine if the girls' sexuality played any role in the shootings, Wright told msnbc.com: “That’s always something that we’re looking for, but as of this point, we have not been able to establish that that had anything to do with the attack.”"

[Gormy Cuss]

37. *Reported* crimes being the key qualification here.

UCR statistics are reliable estimates of reported crime and somewhat reliable at the state and local level for trending data within a specific jurisdiction but comparatives from jurisdiction to jurisdiction based on a single crime statistic are problematic.

The strength (personnel and other resources) and the aggressiveness of a jurisdiction’s law enforcement agency are also key factors in understanding the nature and extent of crime occurring in that area. For example, one city may report more crime than a comparable one, not because there is more crime, but rather because its law enforcement agency, through proactive efforts, identifies more offenses. Attitudes of the citizens toward crime and their crime reporting practices, especially concerning minor offenses, also have an impact on the volume of crimes known to police. (snip)

Hate Crime Statistics provides a nationwide view of hate crime based on statistics contributed by local, county, state, tribal, and federal law enforcement agencies. Although many of the listed factors equally affect the crime of a particular area, the UCR Program makes no attempt to relate them to the data presented. The data user is, therefore, cautioned against comparing statistical data of individual reporting units from cities, counties, metropolitan areas, states, or colleges or universities solely on the basis of their population coverage or student enrollment.

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/variables.html

[NutmegYankee]

39. "Stay out of New England. Bunch of violent bigoted hicks up there."

I'll tell you what - Why don't you drop by and I'll let you dress up in a bright Yankees Jersey and we can go bar hopping in Boston. It'll be a blast!

[arely staircase]

40. scary to drive through with your mexican wife?

did you get a look at any of the people when you were driving through pecos? or the rest of texas for that matter?

[southmost]

11. scary

and heartbreaking

[Turbineguy]

12. They're

just children! Awful.

[tawadi]

13. Awful

[onehandle]

16. Mitt Romney is responsible for this.

Every Republican from the simple-minded voter up to to Heir Limbaugh and their hatred is responsible for this.

[Zeric1969]

17. Senseless

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/25/12402620-teen-lesbian-couple-found-shot-in-texas-park

[Voice for Peace]

18. .

[fujiyama]

19. Between this and the idiot from Texas at work that constantly bitches about gay marriage

I don't have a particularly positive image of Texas. What amuses me is the inherent contradiction in his arguments. He's always ranting about big brother, loss of privacy, how unconstitutional just about everything is, yet the idea of discriminating against gays and lesbians is perfectly normal. But it's a big state and obviously there are many awesome people in the state (including some friends that have moved there), and Austin for example is actually a pretty cool city. Too bad, much of the state is still stuck in a time warp...

[The Doctor.]

22. Have you attempted to shut him down?

A couple of well-placed and pointed questions should do the trick.

Meanwhile, I hope the families of these girls get face time with the murderers.

[fujiyama]

34. I could. I get kinda heated and passionate when discussing politics - potentially distracting my job

and I've always kept my politics away from work. I have noise isolating earphones and block him out. I know that sounds kinda cowardly, but I'm in the South and well, ultimately I want to keep my job and my eye on my own bottom line. He won't change his opinions either way...I'm thinking I may want a change of scenery eventually anyways...

Either way, crimes like the one mentioned above just personally sicken me...I don't understand the hatred in the first place, and the hatred that drives one to violence? Just plain shocking and appalling...

[BlueIris]

20. Horrifying.

Vile and horrifying.

[Ken Burch]

21. Sickening.

Every time something like this happens, it diminishes all of us.

[lunatica]

23. I'm very sorry that this happened

Hate mongering has its consequences no matter where it comes from. These crimes are terrible.

[marble falls]

24. I don't even know what to say, this is just plain wrong. These are our children.

[Evasporque]

25. omg...

no words....

[sinkingfeeling]

27. Want could be more evil than murdering people who love each other?

[Volaris]

30. Murdering people FOR loving each other.

"Christian Nation" my ass...

[wandy]

28. Sad; why can't people live their own lives and leave others to live their own. n/t

[slackmaster]

32. It's sad that the most logical conclusion seems to be that this was a hate crime

I also suspect that it was, because there isn't any obvious alternative that makes any kind of sense at all, even though the police are quoted as explicitly saying "...we have not been able to establish that that had anything to do with the attack.”

There are some sick people out there. That I know for sure.

[glinda]

33. Couple that with the shootings outside the Gay 90's Bar in Minneapolis a couple of days ago....

[struggle4progress]

35. Teen Making Amazing Recovery After Tragic Shooting of Her and Her Girlfriend

Posted: Jun 28, 2012 6:14 PM by Adrian Carrasquillo - NBCLatino.com
Updated: Jun 28, 2012 7:09 PM

PORTLAND, Texas(NBCLatino) - Mary Kristine Chapa, 18, who was shot in the head on Saturday along with her girlfriend Mollie Judith Olgin, 19, who was killed, is making an "amazing" recovery, her brother told NBCLatino.com.

"Krissy's health - considering what happened to her - she's doing amazing," says Hilario Chapa, 32. "She's making a strong recovery. The doctors are amazed."

A couple visiting Andrews Park in Portland, Texas on Saturday saw the bodies of two teens in a grassy area. In a statement, Portland police chief Randy Wright said that while family and friends have confirmed the two teens were in a same-sex relationship, there is no evidence as of yet to indicate the attacks were a hate crime. The Texas Rangers have joined the investigation.

Hilario, a tech sergeant in the Air Force reserve, who served with the 82nd airborne division, says his sister took sign language in high school and has been able to communicate in that way. He says she has made physical progress on her right side but they are still waiting for a response from the left side of her body ...

http://www.kztv10.com/news/teen-making-amazing-recovery-after-tragic-shooting-of-her-and-her-girlfriend/

[tawadi]

38. This reminds me of reports describing Gabrielle Giffords, after she was shot

It will be a long road toward recovery for Mary Kristine Chapa as well. Very sad.

[goclark]

36. Oh No! K and R

How can they continue to get away with these crimes!!

A Civil War is brewing for this country ~

[arely staircase]

41. that's screwed up.

corpus is a nice place, too.

[Social_Democrat191]

42. Why is this shit still going on in TWO-THOUSAND FUCKING TWELVE?

I can't wait until we live in the kind of liberal, social democratic utopia promised to us by Star Trek, when we as a species can look back at now and go "What the hell was wrong with us back then?"

[BBGC]

43. She does not have health insurance! Please donate here!

The family does not have health insurance and has setup a donation fund for medical expenses here: https://www.wepay.com/donations/mary-kristene-chapa

And yes this is legit - the link is from this MSNBC article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48005942