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Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:06 AM

'The Rolling Stones do not endorse Donald Trump,' according to tweet

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

A message on the venerable British rock band's Twitter account advises followers that Mick, Keith, Ronnie and Charlie did not authorize the Republican National Convention to use one of their best-known songs as a political anthem.

The Rolling Stones do not endorse Donald Trump. 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' was used without the band's permission.[blockquote/]

According to a story by Lauren Craddock on the Billboard magazine website, it's the third time a rousing Stones' song has been appropriated during Trump's White House campaign.

"The Rolling Stones have continuously asked Trump to refrain from using their music," Craddock wrote. "In May, Trump walked out for his Indiana primary victory speech to 'Start Me Up' with a rep for the band telling Billboard at the time, 'The Rolling Stones have never given permission to the Trump campaign to use their songs. [The band] have requested that they cease all use immediately.'"

The Trump campaign has also used the Jagger-Richards composition "Brown Sugar," according to Craddock.

Read more: http://www.nola.com/music/index.ssf/2016/07/the_rolling_stones_do_not_endo.html



You can't indeed always get what you want, Donald Trump.

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Reply 'The Rolling Stones do not endorse Donald Trump,' according to tweet (Original post)
forest444 Jul 2016 OP
TygrBright Jul 2016 #1
dflprincess Jul 2016 #2
forest444 Jul 2016 #3
alp227 Jul 2016 #7
rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #26
Midnight Writer Jul 2016 #4
forest444 Jul 2016 #5
Philly-Union-Man Jul 2016 #6
JohnnyRingo Jul 2016 #12
Cosmocat Jul 2016 #15
gopiscrap Jul 2016 #22
rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #27
world wide wally Jul 2016 #8
Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #9
area51 Jul 2016 #10
Indydem Jul 2016 #20
dflprincess Jul 2016 #30
olddad56 Jul 2016 #11
tomp Jul 2016 #13
Botany Jul 2016 #16
malthaussen Jul 2016 #19
olddad56 Jul 2016 #24
mjvpi Jul 2016 #28
Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #14
cbfromco Jul 2016 #17
malthaussen Jul 2016 #18
whistler162 Jul 2016 #21
pepperbear Jul 2016 #23
mjvpi Jul 2016 #25
Mister Twilight Jul 2016 #29
Angry Dragon Jul 2016 #31

Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:13 AM

1. Yeah, when I heard that, first thing popped into mind: "Mick's gonna be PISSED." n/t

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:13 AM

2. George Harrison's estate also put out a response

That "Here Comes the Sun" was used without permission.
I've lost track of the number of artists who have had to do this

Really a sign of Trump's inability to respect anyone else.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:19 AM

3. Their shamelessness knows no bounds, it seems.

I remember reading years ago that the Reagan '84 campaign repeatedly used John Mellencamp's Ain't That America in their rallies, and even an Ansel Adams print as a poster backdrop (!).

Both artists, as you can imagine, vigorously objected; it was all the more poignant in Adams' case, since he died that year.

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Response to forest444 (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:52 AM

7. This 2007 article suggests that.

“Pink Houses,” its second single, reached Number 8 on Billboard's pop singles charts, and ultimately became an American anthem for the working class. Even though the song's underlying message says, “the American dream ain't all it's cracked up to be,” its catchy chorus got the attention of then-President Ronald Reagan, who wanted to use the song for his 1984 re-election campaign. Mellencamp, a life-long liberal, refused.


http://www.mixonline.com/news/classic-tracks/classic-tracks-john-cougar-mellencamps-pink-houses/367578

I also found this 1992 essay by Bill Kauffman, "Folky-Fakey Populists", that recounted Reagan campaign wanting to use that song but being turned down.

What's also funny is that Reagan also wanted to use Springsteen's "Born in the USA" in a rally - never mind how that song is NOT the patriotic anthem Reagan thought he could pass it off as.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:59 PM

26. Yah the thing is they don't need permission

 

to play these songs. It's called a compulsory license.

The artists only have cause for action against implied endorsement.

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:20 AM

4. He also plays "Sympathy For The Devil" just before he comes onstage

You can see this on C-Span feeds of his campaign appearances. He (or someone on his staff) have been doing this for several months now.

"Please allow me to introduce myself", indeed.

Maya Angelou once wrote " If someone shows you who they really are, believe them. The first time."

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:26 AM

5. Someone should sneak 'Lonesome Loser' into their playlist after his concession speech this November.

I'm sure the Little River Band will understand.

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:51 AM

6. He's not going to stop.

 

He doesn't care what they think and he knows there's nothing they can really do about it. And it makes his idiot followers love him more.

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Response to Philly-Union-Man (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:43 AM

12. You're right, there's nothing that can be done

It's important though that the public knows they aren't endorsing the candidate. Using The Stones music may cause confusion that the Glimmer Twins donated the songs to Trump's efforts. To idiots anyway.

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Response to Philly-Union-Man (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:59 AM

15. YEP

American, 2016 ...

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Response to Philly-Union-Man (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 10:07 AM

22. can't they sue him for copyright infringement?

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #22)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:00 PM

27. No

 

There is no copyright infringement of the venue and/or the campaign pay the necessary public performance license. Licensing is compulsory in such cases. It isn't up to the songwriter or publisher to permit or prohibit.

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:55 AM

8. Sue his ass!

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:59 AM

9. Give a concert with proceeds donated to

Clinton/Kane and then announce all song royalties paid through November will also be donated to liberal causes.

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:03 AM

10. Why is it the only party I hear doing this is the republicans? /rhetorical

The so-called law & order party is stealing the work of musicians, by not getting their permission & paying them royalties.

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Response to area51 (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:40 AM

20. You don't need their permission. It isn't stealing.

 

If Rump pays the licensing fee, he can do whatever he wants with it. They don't own their music, and their opinion has no bearing whatsoever. They are just whining.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #20)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:33 PM

30. Whining?

I don't think it's whining for the artists (or the estates) to make it clear that they do not support Trump and are not happy with him using their music.

They are entitled to their opinions.


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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:19 AM

11. I wonder if Trump has any idea of what the tune Brown Sugar is even about.

It is about heroin.

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:48 AM

13. really?

 

about heroin? How did you get that?

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:20 AM

16. Heroin???

Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
Sold in the market down in New Orleans
Scarred old slaver knows he's doin' all right
Hear him whip the women just around midnight

Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should

Drums beatin' cold, English blood runs hot
Lady of the house wonderin' when it's gonna stop
House boy knows that he's doin' all right
You should have heard him just around midnight

Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should

Brown Sugar, how come you dance so good
Brown Sugar, just like a black girl should

I bet your mama was a Cajun Queen,
And all her boyfriends were sweet sixteen
I'm no school boy but I know what I like
You should have heard them just around midnight

Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
Brown Sugar, just like a black girl should

I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo
How come you, how come you dance so good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo
Just like a, just like a black girl should
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo

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Response to Botany (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:40 AM

19. Maybe he meant "heroine"



-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #19)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:46 PM

24. no, heroin, almost every song on the sticky fingers album contained references to heroin

http://diffuser.fm/druggiest-rolling-stones-songs/

Check out #6 on the list, the Sticky Fingers album.

I know this because my best friend was a junkie and a big stones fan. What do you think Sister Morphine and Dead Flowers were about. Brown Sugar, Dead Flowers, and Sister Morphine were all on the Sticky Fingers album.

brown sugar was a popular reference to brown Mexican heroin long before that tune was written.

all of the hidden innuendos on that album related to heroin just went over the heads of the people who were not caught up in that web.

At the time, both Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were junkies.

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:01 PM

28. Mexican Brown Heroine.

The song mixes up allusions. It's how the Stones were rolling at the time.

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:55 AM

14. I beg to differ.

One of their greatest hits was "Sympathy for the Devil."

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:31 AM

17. There was one very appropriate use of a Stones song

I kind of thought he should have gotten a one time pass for using "You Can't Always Get What You Want" when coming out to introduce Pence as his running mate.

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:38 AM

18. No, I shouldn't think they would.

Nor do they have a vote.

-- Mal

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:58 AM

21. I am sure the Rolling Stones will allow one song

to be used by the Trump campaign on November 10th.


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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:41 PM

23. "brown sugar"?

A song about slavery in old New Orleans? He is so classy.

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:56 PM

25. Lies is a catchy Stones song. It would work well and they might not object.

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:48 PM

29. We'll all be singing this if Trump is elected

 



"War, children! It's just a shot away! It's just a shot away!"

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Response to forest444 (Original post)

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 03:19 PM

31. They should send him a bill for $100 million

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