Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

forest444

(5,902 posts)
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:06 AM Jul 2016

'The Rolling Stones do not endorse Donald Trump,' according to tweet

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

A message on the venerable British rock band's Twitter account advises followers that Mick, Keith, Ronnie and Charlie did not authorize the Republican National Convention to use one of their best-known songs as a political anthem.

The Rolling Stones do not endorse Donald Trump. 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' was used without the band's permission.[blockquote/]

According to a story by Lauren Craddock on the Billboard magazine website, it's the third time a rousing Stones' song has been appropriated during Trump's White House campaign.

"The Rolling Stones have continuously asked Trump to refrain from using their music," Craddock wrote. "In May, Trump walked out for his Indiana primary victory speech to 'Start Me Up' with a rep for the band telling Billboard at the time, 'The Rolling Stones have never given permission to the Trump campaign to use their songs. [The band] have requested that they cease all use immediately.'"

The Trump campaign has also used the Jagger-Richards composition "Brown Sugar," according to Craddock.

Read more: http://www.nola.com/music/index.ssf/2016/07/the_rolling_stones_do_not_endo.html



You can't indeed always get what you want, Donald Trump.
31 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
'The Rolling Stones do not endorse Donald Trump,' according to tweet (Original Post) forest444 Jul 2016 OP
Yeah, when I heard that, first thing popped into mind: "Mick's gonna be PISSED." n/t TygrBright Jul 2016 #1
George Harrison's estate also put out a response dflprincess Jul 2016 #2
Their shamelessness knows no bounds, it seems. forest444 Jul 2016 #3
This 2007 article suggests that. alp227 Jul 2016 #7
Yah the thing is they don't need permission rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #26
He also plays "Sympathy For The Devil" just before he comes onstage Midnight Writer Jul 2016 #4
Someone should sneak 'Lonesome Loser' into their playlist after his concession speech this November. forest444 Jul 2016 #5
He's not going to stop. Philly-Union-Man Jul 2016 #6
You're right, there's nothing that can be done JohnnyRingo Jul 2016 #12
YEP Cosmocat Jul 2016 #15
can't they sue him for copyright infringement? gopiscrap Jul 2016 #22
No rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #27
Sue his ass! world wide wally Jul 2016 #8
Give a concert with proceeds donated to Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #9
Why is it the only party I hear doing this is the republicans? /rhetorical area51 Jul 2016 #10
You don't need their permission. It isn't stealing. Indydem Jul 2016 #20
Whining? dflprincess Jul 2016 #30
I wonder if Trump has any idea of what the tune Brown Sugar is even about. olddad56 Jul 2016 #11
really? tomp Jul 2016 #13
Heroin??? Botany Jul 2016 #16
Maybe he meant "heroine" malthaussen Jul 2016 #19
no, heroin, almost every song on the sticky fingers album contained references to heroin olddad56 Jul 2016 #24
Mexican Brown Heroine. mjvpi Jul 2016 #28
I beg to differ. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #14
There was one very appropriate use of a Stones song cbfromco Jul 2016 #17
No, I shouldn't think they would. malthaussen Jul 2016 #18
I am sure the Rolling Stones will allow one song whistler162 Jul 2016 #21
"brown sugar"? pepperbear Jul 2016 #23
Lies is a catchy Stones song. It would work well and they might not object. mjvpi Jul 2016 #25
We'll all be singing this if Trump is elected Mister Twilight Jul 2016 #29
They should send him a bill for $100 million Angry Dragon Jul 2016 #31

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
2. George Harrison's estate also put out a response
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:13 AM
Jul 2016

That "Here Comes the Sun" was used without permission.
I've lost track of the number of artists who have had to do this

Really a sign of Trump's inability to respect anyone else.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
3. Their shamelessness knows no bounds, it seems.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:19 AM
Jul 2016

I remember reading years ago that the Reagan '84 campaign repeatedly used John Mellencamp's Ain't That America in their rallies, and even an Ansel Adams print as a poster backdrop (!).

Both artists, as you can imagine, vigorously objected; it was all the more poignant in Adams' case, since he died that year.

alp227

(32,018 posts)
7. This 2007 article suggests that.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:52 AM
Jul 2016
“Pink Houses,” its second single, reached Number 8 on Billboard's pop singles charts, and ultimately became an American anthem for the working class. Even though the song's underlying message says, “the American dream ain't all it's cracked up to be,” its catchy chorus got the attention of then-President Ronald Reagan, who wanted to use the song for his 1984 re-election campaign. Mellencamp, a life-long liberal, refused.


http://www.mixonline.com/news/classic-tracks/classic-tracks-john-cougar-mellencamps-pink-houses/367578

I also found this 1992 essay by Bill Kauffman, "Folky-Fakey Populists", that recounted Reagan campaign wanting to use that song but being turned down.

What's also funny is that Reagan also wanted to use Springsteen's "Born in the USA" in a rally - never mind how that song is NOT the patriotic anthem Reagan thought he could pass it off as.
 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
26. Yah the thing is they don't need permission
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:59 PM
Jul 2016

to play these songs. It's called a compulsory license.

The artists only have cause for action against implied endorsement.

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
4. He also plays "Sympathy For The Devil" just before he comes onstage
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jul 2016

You can see this on C-Span feeds of his campaign appearances. He (or someone on his staff) have been doing this for several months now.

"Please allow me to introduce myself", indeed.

Maya Angelou once wrote " If someone shows you who they really are, believe them. The first time."

forest444

(5,902 posts)
5. Someone should sneak 'Lonesome Loser' into their playlist after his concession speech this November.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:26 AM
Jul 2016

I'm sure the Little River Band will understand.

 

Philly-Union-Man

(79 posts)
6. He's not going to stop.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:51 AM
Jul 2016

He doesn't care what they think and he knows there's nothing they can really do about it. And it makes his idiot followers love him more.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
12. You're right, there's nothing that can be done
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:43 AM
Jul 2016

It's important though that the public knows they aren't endorsing the candidate. Using The Stones music may cause confusion that the Glimmer Twins donated the songs to Trump's efforts. To idiots anyway.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
27. No
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jul 2016

There is no copyright infringement of the venue and/or the campaign pay the necessary public performance license. Licensing is compulsory in such cases. It isn't up to the songwriter or publisher to permit or prohibit.

Blue Idaho

(5,048 posts)
9. Give a concert with proceeds donated to
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:59 AM
Jul 2016

Clinton/Kane and then announce all song royalties paid through November will also be donated to liberal causes.

area51

(11,906 posts)
10. Why is it the only party I hear doing this is the republicans? /rhetorical
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:03 AM
Jul 2016

The so-called law & order party is stealing the work of musicians, by not getting their permission & paying them royalties.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
20. You don't need their permission. It isn't stealing.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:40 AM
Jul 2016

If Rump pays the licensing fee, he can do whatever he wants with it. They don't own their music, and their opinion has no bearing whatsoever. They are just whining.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
30. Whining?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jul 2016

I don't think it's whining for the artists (or the estates) to make it clear that they do not support Trump and are not happy with him using their music.

They are entitled to their opinions.


Botany

(70,490 posts)
16. Heroin???
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jul 2016

Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
Sold in the market down in New Orleans
Scarred old slaver knows he's doin' all right
Hear him whip the women just around midnight

Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should

Drums beatin' cold, English blood runs hot
Lady of the house wonderin' when it's gonna stop
House boy knows that he's doin' all right
You should have heard him just around midnight

Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should

Brown Sugar, how come you dance so good
Brown Sugar, just like a black girl should

I bet your mama was a Cajun Queen,
And all her boyfriends were sweet sixteen
I'm no school boy but I know what I like
You should have heard them just around midnight

Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good
Brown Sugar, just like a black girl should

I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo
How come you, how come you dance so good
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo
Just like a, just like a black girl should
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wooo

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
24. no, heroin, almost every song on the sticky fingers album contained references to heroin
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jul 2016
http://diffuser.fm/druggiest-rolling-stones-songs/

Check out #6 on the list, the Sticky Fingers album.

I know this because my best friend was a junkie and a big stones fan. What do you think Sister Morphine and Dead Flowers were about. Brown Sugar, Dead Flowers, and Sister Morphine were all on the Sticky Fingers album.

brown sugar was a popular reference to brown Mexican heroin long before that tune was written.

all of the hidden innuendos on that album related to heroin just went over the heads of the people who were not caught up in that web.

At the time, both Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were junkies.

mjvpi

(1,388 posts)
28. Mexican Brown Heroine.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jul 2016

The song mixes up allusions. It's how the Stones were rolling at the time.

cbfromco

(3 posts)
17. There was one very appropriate use of a Stones song
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jul 2016

I kind of thought he should have gotten a one time pass for using "You Can't Always Get What You Want" when coming out to introduce Pence as his running mate.

 

Mister Twilight

(60 posts)
29. We'll all be singing this if Trump is elected
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jul 2016


"War, children! It's just a shot away! It's just a shot away!"

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»'The Rolling Stones do no...