Clinton camp: Trump's Russia remarks 'a bridge too far'
Source: The Hill
Hillary Clinton's campaign on Wednesday slammed Donald Trump for saying he hoped the Kremlin had Clinton's deleted emails, calling it a bridge too far.
Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon told MSNBC that Trump "is now openly inviting Russia to engage in cyberattacks against the United States." Fallon said he agreed with Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), whose office issued a statement calling Russia "a global menace led by a devious thug" and saying that Russian President Vladimir Putin "should stay out of this election."
"We need to stand up Russia," Fallon said. "This has to be the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent," Clinton senior policy adviser Jake Sullivan added in a statement.
"That's not hyperbole, those are just the facts. This has gone from being a matter of curiosity, and a matter of politics, to being a national security issue," Sullivan said.
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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289443-clinton-camp-trumps-russia-remarks-a-bridge-too-far
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)The heads of ALL of America's security agencies need to be in front of microphones RIGHT NOW demanding a Congressional investigation of the Don the Con's traitorous suggestion. He continues to think that reality is some sort of WWE show in which he is the star.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)and he's got the stupid arrogance to invite Russia to invade US cyber security space?
What the actual *uck!?
The CIA needs to get on Donny's case and see what he and his russian connected campaign head are up to!
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)But its stuff obviously not available to the public.
Roy Rolling
(6,933 posts)Didn't someone demand Hillary Clinton be removed from US security updates because of the email kerfuffle? A candidate calling to his Russian comrades to cyberattack his election opponent is certainly a more serious national security risk.
Why do the Democrats not have an answer to the inevitable response they will get from the GOP: "Sour grapes. Move along, partisan sniping."
I would, for once, like to see them stick a microscope up Trump's ass for years the way the GOP has manipulated the government bureaucracy to hound Hillary Clinton. From this to that to emails to leaks to .... It's always something dogged. And it is often effective. Why don't Democrats and progressives have similar tools to make something take on a life of its own like this national security issue with Trump?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Because 6 media companies control 90% of what gets out as news in this country. How many of them would be considered to have a liberal bent?
Most likely zero. Liberals best bet is the internet probably.
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workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Thanks for making it, great idea!
Hekate
(90,793 posts)bjobotts
(9,141 posts)uawchild
(2,208 posts)Is there ANY way at all this is somehow going to boost Trump? Is it an insane plan to distract people from the Democratic convention?
Is there ANY method to Trump's madness at all?
I am truly boggled by all this. lol
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)tyat he got in the race for the publicity, and is desperately trying to find a way out. It is then only thing that makes any sense.
uawchild
(2,208 posts)He just rants about ANYTHING, throws in some insults at his opponent, and he goes up in the polls!
I mean, good lord, after his Orwellian acceptance speech at the Republican Convention, his polls went UP.
Maybe, the angrier he acts the more angry people want to support him. It could be just that simple. Some sort of weird emotional resonance.
Kingofalldems
(38,476 posts)uawchild
(2,208 posts)Check out the results on realclearpolitics:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
Amazing, isn't it? After all the asinine things he has said and DONE, he's been doing this well.
I don't think we can afford to IGNORE the fact that the demagogue has gained traction to an UNBELIEVABLE extent with the voting population.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Trump was a game and it got out of control. Now the game is real, and it seems as if Trump either cant find way out, or is doubling down and no longer wants out.
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)He just wants us to bow and kiss his ring and threaten people to do his will...even if he doesn't know what that is. One meglamaniac detrimental to our democracy
onehandle
(51,122 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)means?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_(council)
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Details are not for Trump people.
Old Union Guy
(738 posts)63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)uawchild
(2,208 posts)The rightwing eat this crappola up, they are all calling it a superb piece of trolling by Trump.
Honestly, they are. It's unreal.
Kingofalldems
(38,476 posts)Interesting post.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)If Hillary did such a thing they would be calling for a public hanging!
I hate the republican party!
Democat
(11,617 posts)Which one do you think, comrade?
Socal31
(2,484 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)to stay off that bridge.
appal_jack
(3,813 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)I would say!
okasha
(11,573 posts)Treason, no. There is a very narrow Constitutional definition of treason, and this doesn't rise to it.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)uawchild
(2,208 posts)I am beginning to suspect Trump is doing this with the sinister motive of trying to overshadow the Democratic Convention.
Now its all about Putin and Hillary's emails today, NOT her nomination last night!
Trump just might be a master manipulator -- taking him for a mere buffoon is dangerous.
liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)Plenty of conservative military folks and others who consider themselves patriots are not going to like the sucking up to Russia thing
uawchild
(2,208 posts)That plenty of conservative military folks and others who consider themselves patriots also happen to be rabidly anti-Hillary:
Military Times survey: Troops prefer Trump to Clinton by a huge margin
In a new survey of American military personnel, Donald Trump emerged as active-duty service members' preference to become the next U.S. president, topping Hillary Clinton by more than a 2-to-1 margin. However, in the latest Military Times election survey, more than one in five troops said theyd rather not vote in November if they have to choose between just those two candidates.
But given only those choices, 21 percent of the service members surveyed said they would abstain from voting.More than 54 percent of the 951 troops Military Times surveyed said they would vote for Trump, the presumed Republican presidential nominee, over Clinton, the Democratic front-runner. Only about 25 percent said they would vote for Clinton in that matchup.
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/05/09/military-times-survey-donald-trump-beats-hillary-clinton/84132402/
That's from May, so of course opinions might have shifted.
Things also seem bad among retired military:
More than 80 percent of active and retired military have unfavorable view of Hillary Clinton
Just a 15 percent of active and retired military personnel have a favorable view of former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, according to a RallyPoint/Rasmussen Reports national survey released Monday.
Mrs. Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential front-runner, is seen unfavorably by 81 percent, including 69 percent who have a very unfavorable impression of her.
Three percent said they have a very favorable impression of her.
Twenty-seven percent of military women had a favorable impression of Mrs. Clinton, compared to 12 percent of men.
The survey of 1,473 military adults was taken from Oct. 25-Nov. 2 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/16/more-than-80-percent-of-active-and-retired-militar/
That's from 2015.
I remain doubtful that Trump's antics, Russian connections, and now Russian hacking trolling will significantly change these peoples' minds. If anything, polls have proven that the more ridiculous Trump is, the better he does. Sad but true.
bjobotts
(9,141 posts)uawchild
(2,208 posts)To win elections, you don't need everyone's vote and yes, some young voters are changeable -- but military retirees, I wouldn't hold out much hope, in general.
Cheers
Kimberly1990219
(24 posts)being this person expressed admiration for Putin and now the DNC is hacked by Russia?! We must get out there and vote to take this garbage down!
lakercub
(659 posts)when he said he could shoot someone and still get the nomination.
For the people backing him, is there nothing he can't say that won't turn them off completely? His comments about women, all by themselves should have been enough to get him out of this election (not to mention shamed out of the country), but he's done it with women, the disabled, people of color, the press (who still fawn over him), and foreign allies. I know the man is utterly without shame, but is that true of his followers because it appears so? Are there really that many people who will vote for him no matter how much stupid, treasonous, BS vitriol he spews? It's terrifying.
Kimberly1990219
(24 posts)It feels so gross. We can't self-mutilate ourselves like this after we have come this far... I believe Trump will be worse than Hitler, frankly.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)it's freaking mind-boggling.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,040 posts)Those two keep on rebuking Trump for his craven idiocy and stupidity.
When will they un-endorse him?
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)he could should somebody in the middle of 5th avenue and he wouldn't lose voters.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,155 posts)lock him up, waterboard him, get the facts!
Cosmocat
(14,572 posts)keep the pressure on him ...
Runningdawg
(4,522 posts)this election has far wider implications than left vs right. This man could have his hand on the button, THE button, in less than 6 months! That absolutely should scare the hell out of anyone paying attention.
He has committed a textbook example of treason. If the American people do not act now, we will be as guilty as he is.
markj757
(194 posts)and people need to wake the hell up and realize that. Its not funny anymore, he is extremely extremely dangerous. And Mike Pence will not be strong enough to save President Trump from himself. I don't think no one will be able to do that if he is elected. This is becoming a crisis election, and it is unprecedented in my lifetime.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The man just invited a foreign government to hack into the DNC!
Can you imagine the damage this clown would do in the White House?!
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,287 posts)as soon as they go over the top with some reckless charge, "lock her up"
you know they are about to do the same thing and expect to get away
with it
It's all a game to the GOP
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)It is now the truth.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,459 posts)cuz 'we need the info to prove what a liar HRC is'
8 track mind
(1,638 posts)"I loved that movie, it was terrific!"
ashling
(25,771 posts)Donald Trump's tax returns
bucolic_frolic
(43,287 posts)Inviting a foreign totalitarian democracy to interfere with the elections
of the United States.
Traitor. Treason.
Angel Martin
(942 posts)he gets stronger.
In this case, Trump has reminded people about Hillary's emails - and most view how she handled them as negative.
Trump says, "release her emails Putin", which many people assume Putin has because of the security issues on Hillary's server.
What the Hillary campaign is arguing now is that Hillary is the hapless victim of evil Putin and traitorous Trump - which people may be sympathetic to, but doesn't really paint a picture of Hillary as a strong leader ready to take on wicked, unscrupulous foreigners.
We will see. After what has happened this year already, no one knows what is really possible.
cynzke
(1,254 posts)He sees Hillary getting a big bump from the convention and this is a BLATANT signal to his buddies....."NOW is the time to leak those emails!!!!!
sofa king
(10,857 posts)The "Bridge too Far" was Operation Market Garden in 1944, an enormous combined-arms operation in which three and a half divisions of paratroopers and glider troops were dropped over the entire length of the Netherlands in an attempt to control the highway and all of the bridges which led to the German border.
Almost nothing worked as hoped, and the Germans were left in control of the bridge over the Rhine at Arnhem, and also the Scheldt estuary, which prevented Antwerp from being used as a supply point. It also used the remaining supply of gasoline on which the Allied armies depended, extending the war in Europe into 1945.
It also indirectly guaranteed that the Russians would capture Berlin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Market_Garden