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uawchild

(2,208 posts)
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:46 AM Jul 2016

Russia says spyware found in state computer networks

Source: Reuters

Russia's intelligence service said on Saturday that the computer networks of 20 organizations, including state agencies and defense companies, have been infected with spyware in what it described as a targeted and coordinated attack.

The Federal Security Service, the FSB, said the malware and the way the networks were infected were similar to those used in previous cases of cyber espionage found in Russia and other countries. The agency did not say who it suspected of being behind the attacks.

"Information technology resources of government agencies, scientific and military institutions, defense industry companies and other entities involved in crucial infrastructure have been infected," the FSB said in a statement on its website.

The FSB's announcement follows reports of cyber attacks on the U.S. Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the fundraising committee for Democratic candidates for the U.S. House of Representatives.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-cyber-attacks-idUSKCN10A0F0



A lot of that going around it seems... So everyone hacks everyone else? Seems so.

Remember when the Chinese hacked back in 2008?

"Chinese government hackers infiltrated computer networks of Obama, McCain presidential campaigns in 2008: report

Chinese government hackers gained access to the computer networks of Sens. Barack Obama and John McCain during the 2008 presidential election, officials revealed on the eve of bilateral talks between the U.S. and China on cybersecurity that kicks off Friday.

Campaign staffers say they grew suspicious that they were being monitored after Chinese officials approached them to complain about foreign policy positions written in secret, internal documents that had not yet been publicized.

Though President Obama previously alluded to a cyberattack on his presidential campaign staff but officials are only now connecting the electronic espionage operation to the Chinese government.

The Chinese were trolling campaign networks to monitor the candidates' policies on China."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/chinese-government-hacked-2008-obama-mccain-campaigns-report-article-1.1365982
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uawchild

(2,208 posts)
2. You are correct, interfering in a country's politics is bad -- should we also stop doing that?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:59 AM
Jul 2016

"America's Coup Machine: Destroying Democracy Since 1953
U.S. efforts to overthrow foreign governments leave the world less peaceful, less just and less hopeful.
...
this is at least the 80th time the United States has organized a coup or a failed coup in a foreign country since 1953. That was when President Eisenhower discovered in Iran that the CIA could overthrow elected governments who refused to sacrifice the future of their people to Western commercial and geopolitical interests. Most U.S. coups have led to severe repression, disappearances, extrajudicial executions, torture, corruption, extreme poverty and inequality, and prolonged setbacks for the democratic aspirations of people in the countries affected. "
http://www.alternet.org/world/americas-coup-machine-destroying-democracy-1953

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randr

(12,412 posts)
3. The cold war continues
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:02 AM
Jul 2016

Spying and now hacking have the same goals. Gather information to assess what your enemy will do next and use what you find to disrupt their internal politics.
Nothing is new, there is just a more level playing field and the old rules of protocol are out the door.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
5. The DNC and the Clinton campaign were warned to take action by the FBI and external
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:16 AM
Jul 2016

consultants and responded by ignoring the consultants they had paid to identify vulnerabilities in their computer systems, and refusing to cooperate with the FBI.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
7. You bet.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:34 AM
Jul 2016
FBI warned Clinton campaign last spring of cyberattack

The FBI warned the Clinton campaign that it was a target of a cyberattack last March, just weeks before the Democratic National Committee discovered it had been penetrated by hackers it now believes were working for Russian intelligence, two sources who have been briefed on the matter told Yahoo News.

In a meeting with senior officials at the campaign’s Brooklyn headquarters, FBI agents laid out concerns that cyberhackers had used so-called spear-phishing emails as part of an attempt to penetrate the campaign’s computers, the sources said. One of the sources said agents conducting a national security investigation asked the Clinton campaign to turn over internal computer logs as well as the personal email addresses of senior campaign officials. But the campaign, through its lawyers, declined to provide the data, deciding that the FBI’s request for sensitive personal and campaign information data was too broad and intrusive, the source said.

A second source who had been briefed on the matter and who confirmed the Brooklyn meeting said agents provided no specific information to the campaign about the identity of the cyberhackers or whether they were associated with a foreign government. The source said the campaign was already aware of attempts to penetrate its computers and had taken steps to thwart them, emphasizing that there is still no evidence that the campaign’s computers had actually been successfully penetrated.

But the potential that the intruders were associated with a foreign government should have come as no surprise to the Clinton campaign, said several sources knowledgeable about the investigation. Chinese intelligence hackers were widely reported to have penetrated both the campaigns of Barack Obama and John McCain in 2008.

The Brooklyn warning also could raise new questions about why the campaign and the DNC didn’t take the matter more seriously. It came just four months after the DNC had also been contacted by FBI agents alerting its information technology specialists about a cyberattack on its computers, the sources told Yahoo News. As with the warning to the Clinton campaign, the FBI initially provided no details to the DNC.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-hillary-clinton-cyber-attack-000000269.html




Is Putin to blame? Trump? Guccifer? Nope. Neither are to blame. The only one to blame is the DNC.


The Democratic National Committee was warned last fall that its computer network was susceptible to attacks but didn’t follow the security advice it was given, according to three people familiar with the matter...

“Shame on them. It looks like they just did the review to check a box but didn’t do anything with it,” said Ann Barron-DiCamillo, who was director of US-Cert, the primary agency protecting U.S. government networks, until last February. “If they had acted last fall, instead of those thousands of e-mails exposed it might have been much less.”
The assessment by Good Harbor Security Risk Management, headed by the former Clinton and Bush administration official Richard Clarke, occurred over two months beginning in September 2015, the people said...

The review found problems ranging from an out-of-date firewall to a lack of advanced malware detection technology on individual computers, according to two of the people familiar with the matter.The firm recommended taking special precautions to protect any financial information related to donors and internal communications including e-mails, these people said.

The DNC paid $60,000 for the assessment, according to federal filings.

Since the Clinton email scandal came out 6 months earlier, there was no excuse to ignore email security recommendations. It's past time to take some responsibility.

http://caucus99percent.com/content/whos-blame-dnc-email-hack




Democrats Ignored Cybersecurity Warnings Before Theft

The Democratic National Committee was warned last fall that its computer network was susceptible to attacks but didn’t follow the security advice it was given, according to three people familiar with the matter.

The missed opportunity is another blow to party officials already embarrassed by the theft and public disclosure of e-mails that have disrupted their presidential nominating convention in Philadelphia and led their chairwoman to resign.

Computer security consultants hired by the DNC made dozens of recommendations after a two-month review, the people said. Following the advice, which would typically include having specialists hunt for intruders on the network, might have alerted party officials that hackers had been lurking in their network for weeks -- hackers who would stay for nearly a year.

.snip
The consultants briefed senior DNC leaders on the security problems they found, the people familiar with the matter said. It’s unclear whether Wasserman Schultz was present. Now, she is likely to face criticism over not only the content of the e-mails -- including one in which a party official proposes pushing stories in the news media questioning Sanders’s Jewish faith -- but also the failure to take steps to stop the theft in the first place.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-27/democrats-said-to-ignore-cybersecurity-red-flags-before-theft

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
9. False Equivalency
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jul 2016

Yes, all countries spy on one another. Even friendly governments spy on one another. Even China spying on both Obama and McCain in 2008 falls into this category.

What is going on here is Russia is attempting to influence the outcome of the American election. They may even be sharing the data with one candidate - Trump. This is a thousand times more serious than the other kind of spying.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
11. 10. This isn't the first time a foreign country interfered with our elections How quickly we forget
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jul 2016

Response to uawchild (Original post)

Paula Sims

(877 posts)
12. That's because the Nigerian Prince ISN'T their BFF and doesn't have millions of rubles for them
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jul 2016

I smell a rat. Nice way to deflect - how Donnie of them.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
15. Hmm...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:15 PM
Jul 2016

In the good old days when we still had Soviets, there were three agencies that were able to spy - the KGB (civil intelligence), GRU (military intelligence) and Central Committee of the Communist Party. Each one spied on the other two, and the rest of the country.

Is it possible this spyware was actually planted, not by a foreign power, but by either a Russian intelligence agency or one of the privately-owned troll farms?

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
16. Sure it is possible: Just as our own spy agency spies on congress
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jul 2016

remember the brewhaha about that a few years back?

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